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OT 2021 Mass Shooters
#21
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@Skodin said:
@AGRforever said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline

America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters? 

If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture?  Really?  

Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?  

Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country. 

Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades. 
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . . 

If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards  the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.

This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.

No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.

Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).

You know what I don't see?  I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church. 

You know what I did see?  There were articles about how all Republicans were racist.  There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory". 
I doubt there's too many of us who haven't heard of replacement theory. Especially after Charlottesville.

I'll just say that I'm happy to hear you don't watch Tucker Carlson. He supposedly has mentioned it on 400 episodes. 

Not once have I heard of it.  Had no idea it was a thing.  Still don't think its a thing.  It sure sounds like some boogeyman that was made up in the effort to shame white people for being white. 

After that, isn't replacement what we're all striving for?  I found a mate and replaced myself to carry on our genetic background.  Every living being on the planet has been doing it since the beginning of time. 
No, it's the exact opposite. It says that white people around the world are being systematically replaced by non-white people. It leads to anger, resentment toward people of color, white victimization and islamophobia. 

Minority birth rates have been higher for decades.  Thats not a theory.
It'd probably be even more accurate to say that 3rd world economic conditions cause higher birthrates.  If these families immigrate to the USA and have a higher birthrate for a generation or two.
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#22
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@Skodin said:
@AGRforever said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline

America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters? 

If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture?  Really?  

Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?  

Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country. 

Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades. 
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . . 

If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards  the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.

This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.

No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.

Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).

You know what I don't see?  I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church. 

You know what I did see?  There were articles about how all Republicans were racist.  There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory". 
I doubt there's too many of us who haven't heard of replacement theory. Especially after Charlottesville.

I'll just say that I'm happy to hear you don't watch Tucker Carlson. He supposedly has mentioned it on 400 episodes. 

Not once have I heard of it.  Had no idea it was a thing.  Still don't think its a thing.  It sure sounds like some boogeyman that was made up in the effort to shame white people for being white. 

After that, isn't replacement what we're all striving for?  I found a mate and replaced myself to carry on our genetic background.  Every living being on the planet has been doing it since the beginning of time. 
No, it's the exact opposite. It says that white people around the world are being systematically replaced by non-white people. It leads to anger, resentment toward people of color, white victimization and islamophobia. 

Minority birth rates have been higher for decades.  Thats not a theory.
It'd probably be even more accurate to say that 3rd world economic conditions cause higher birthrates.  If these families immigrate to the USA and have a higher birthrate for a generation or two.
I don't think it's about birth rates as much as it is about immigration. 
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#23
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
I think there's a chance your graphic is racially motivated. Just on the surface, it doesn't look well-researched or professional.

See link below, which basically says that race is irrelevant. "Racial distribution of mass shootings mirrors the racial distribution of the U.S. population as a whole." However, I think an argument can be made that the motivation for each shooting is where the problem is. Is a drunk shooting up a bar? Or is it someone who specifically targets people because of their race? 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/4764...er-s-race/

Your link says there's only been 127 mass shootings over the last 40 years. (little over 3 a year) Yet if we look up any pro gun control website it'll tell us there's hundreds per year?  Do we use the governments definitions or not?  They're the ones that decided +4 made it a mass shooting event. 
Everyone's definition is going to be different based on the point they're trying to make. You can do that with football stats too. 

So....don't use the FBI's definition? 
Use whatever definition you want. 
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#24
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@Skodin said:
@AGRforever said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline

America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters? 

If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture?  Really?  

Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?  

Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country. 

Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades. 
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . . 

If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards  the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.

This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.

No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.

Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).

You know what I don't see?  I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church. 

You know what I did see?  There were articles about how all Republicans were racist.  There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory". 
I doubt there's too many of us who haven't heard of replacement theory. Especially after Charlottesville.

I'll just say that I'm happy to hear you don't watch Tucker Carlson. He supposedly has mentioned it on 400 episodes. 

Not once have I heard of it.  Had no idea it was a thing.  Still don't think its a thing.  It sure sounds like some boogeyman that was made up in the effort to shame white people for being white. 

After that, isn't replacement what we're all striving for?  I found a mate and replaced myself to carry on our genetic background.  Every living being on the planet has been doing it since the beginning of time. 
No, it's the exact opposite. It says that white people around the world are being systematically replaced by non-white people. It leads to anger, resentment toward people of color, white victimization and islamophobia. 

Minority birth rates have been higher for decades.  Thats not a theory.
It'd probably be even more accurate to say that 3rd world economic conditions cause higher birthrates.  If these families immigrate to the USA and have a higher birthrate for a generation or two.
Not to mention interracial marriages/relationships that result in kids that arent "white", it stands to reason that as people breed with folks of other skin colors that the extremes would become less prevalent.
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#25
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@Skodin said:
@AGRforever said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline

America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters? 

If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture?  Really?  

Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?  

Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country. 

Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades. 
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . . 

If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards  the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.

This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.

No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.

Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).

You know what I don't see?  I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church. 

You know what I did see?  There were articles about how all Republicans were racist.  There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory". 
I doubt there's too many of us who haven't heard of replacement theory. Especially after Charlottesville.

I'll just say that I'm happy to hear you don't watch Tucker Carlson. He supposedly has mentioned it on 400 episodes. 

Not once have I heard of it.  Had no idea it was a thing.  Still don't think its a thing.  It sure sounds like some boogeyman that was made up in the effort to shame white people for being white. 

After that, isn't replacement what we're all striving for?  I found a mate and replaced myself to carry on our genetic background.  Every living being on the planet has been doing it since the beginning of time. 
No, it's the exact opposite. It says that white people around the world are being systematically replaced by non-white people. It leads to anger, resentment toward people of color, white victimization and islamophobia. 

Minority birth rates have been higher for decades.  Thats not a theory.
It'd probably be even more accurate to say that 3rd world economic conditions cause higher birthrates.  If these families immigrate to the USA and have a higher birthrate for a generation or two.
Not to mention interracial marriages/relationships that result in kids that arent "white", it stands to reason that as people breed with folks of other skin colors that the extremes would become less prevalent.

The Buffalo guy called himself an eco-facist.  Read the description of what one of those is....LOL. 

I guess I didn't realize how "green" republicans really are. 
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#26
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@Skodin said:
@AGRforever said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline

America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters? 

If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture?  Really?  

Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?  

Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country. 

Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades. 
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . . 

If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards  the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.

This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.

No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.

Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).

You know what I don't see?  I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church. 

You know what I did see?  There were articles about how all Republicans were racist.  There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory". 
I doubt there's too many of us who haven't heard of replacement theory. Especially after Charlottesville.

I'll just say that I'm happy to hear you don't watch Tucker Carlson. He supposedly has mentioned it on 400 episodes. 

Not once have I heard of it.  Had no idea it was a thing.  Still don't think its a thing.  It sure sounds like some boogeyman that was made up in the effort to shame white people for being white. 

After that, isn't replacement what we're all striving for?  I found a mate and replaced myself to carry on our genetic background.  Every living being on the planet has been doing it since the beginning of time. 
No, it's the exact opposite. It says that white people around the world are being systematically replaced by non-white people. It leads to anger, resentment toward people of color, white victimization and islamophobia. 
So by that, these racist conservatives should be supporting planned parenthood in your mind?
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#27
Quote: @greediron said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@Skodin said:
@AGRforever said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline

America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters? 

If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture?  Really?  

Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?  

Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country. 

Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades. 
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . . 

If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards  the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.

This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.

No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.

Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).

You know what I don't see?  I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church. 

You know what I did see?  There were articles about how all Republicans were racist.  There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory". 
I doubt there's too many of us who haven't heard of replacement theory. Especially after Charlottesville.

I'll just say that I'm happy to hear you don't watch Tucker Carlson. He supposedly has mentioned it on 400 episodes. 

Not once have I heard of it.  Had no idea it was a thing.  Still don't think its a thing.  It sure sounds like some boogeyman that was made up in the effort to shame white people for being white. 

After that, isn't replacement what we're all striving for?  I found a mate and replaced myself to carry on our genetic background.  Every living being on the planet has been doing it since the beginning of time. 
No, it's the exact opposite. It says that white people around the world are being systematically replaced by non-white people. It leads to anger, resentment toward people of color, white victimization and islamophobia. 
So by that, these racist conservatives should be supporting planned parenthood in your mind?
Zero clue what this means. 
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#28
Quote: @Skodin said:
@AGRforever said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline

America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters? 

If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture?  Really?  

Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?  

Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country. 

Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades. 
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . . 

If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards  the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.

This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.

No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.

Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).
Or like the mass murderer in Waukesha Wisconsin.
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#29
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@greediron said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@Skodin said:
@AGRforever said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline

America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters? 

If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture?  Really?  

Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?  

Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country. 

Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades. 
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . . 

If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards  the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.

This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.

No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.

Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).

You know what I don't see?  I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church. 

You know what I did see?  There were articles about how all Republicans were racist.  There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory". 
I doubt there's too many of us who haven't heard of replacement theory. Especially after Charlottesville.

I'll just say that I'm happy to hear you don't watch Tucker Carlson. He supposedly has mentioned it on 400 episodes. 

Not once have I heard of it.  Had no idea it was a thing.  Still don't think its a thing.  It sure sounds like some boogeyman that was made up in the effort to shame white people for being white. 

After that, isn't replacement what we're all striving for?  I found a mate and replaced myself to carry on our genetic background.  Every living being on the planet has been doing it since the beginning of time. 
No, it's the exact opposite. It says that white people around the world are being systematically replaced by non-white people. It leads to anger, resentment toward people of color, white victimization and islamophobia. 
So by that, these racist conservatives should be supporting planned parenthood in your mind?
Zero clue what this means. 
I think he means that since the majority of abortions performed in this country are on women of color.   The founder of Planned Parenthood openly and proudly admitted she started the organization to stop the proliferation of black people in the U.S.  Margaret Sanger was a terrible racist.  Hence, he asks if racist conservatives should support Planned Parenthood so they keep aborting babies of color?  I think that is what he means.
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#30
Quote: @Chuckf said:
@MaroonBells said:
@greediron said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@MaroonBells said:
@AGRforever said:
@Skodin said:
@AGRforever said:
@StickyBun said:
@Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline

America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters? 

If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture?  Really?  

Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?  

Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country. 

Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades. 
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . . 

If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards  the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.

This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.

No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.

Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).

You know what I don't see?  I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church. 

You know what I did see?  There were articles about how all Republicans were racist.  There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory". 
I doubt there's too many of us who haven't heard of replacement theory. Especially after Charlottesville.

I'll just say that I'm happy to hear you don't watch Tucker Carlson. He supposedly has mentioned it on 400 episodes. 

Not once have I heard of it.  Had no idea it was a thing.  Still don't think its a thing.  It sure sounds like some boogeyman that was made up in the effort to shame white people for being white. 

After that, isn't replacement what we're all striving for?  I found a mate and replaced myself to carry on our genetic background.  Every living being on the planet has been doing it since the beginning of time. 
No, it's the exact opposite. It says that white people around the world are being systematically replaced by non-white people. It leads to anger, resentment toward people of color, white victimization and islamophobia. 
So by that, these racist conservatives should be supporting planned parenthood in your mind?
Zero clue what this means. 
I think he means that since the majority of abortions performed in this country are on women of color.   The founder of Planned Parenthood openly and proudly admitted she started the organization to stop the proliferation of black people in the U.S.  Margaret Sanger was a terrible racist.  Hence, he asks if racist conservatives should support Planned Parenthood so they keep aborting babies of color?  I think that is what he means.
https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolit...population
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