Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline
America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters?
If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture? Really?
Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?
Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country.
Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades.
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . .
If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.
This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.
No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.
Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).
I think there's a chance your graphic is racially motivated. Just on the surface, it doesn't look well-researched or professional.
See link below, which basically says that race is irrelevant. "Racial distribution of mass shootings mirrors the racial distribution of the U.S. population as a whole." However, I think an argument can be made that the motivation for each shooting is where the problem is. Is a drunk shooting up a bar? Or is it someone who specifically targets people because of their race?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/4764...er-s-race/
Quote: @Skodin said:
@ greediron said:
@ purplefaithful said:
Not sure who put that collage together? But heck, we can find any story we want out there to support a particular pov.
I'll bet there is one undisputed fact though; and that is a pretty direct correlation between crime and economic condition...
There are too many poor people in this country, too high a % of people of color who are economically disadvantaged and the disparity between wealthy and not wealthy I suspect may be growing too.
Add Covid into the mix? More polarization politically? Red/Blue parties ruled by their extremes?
You have a toxic soup in America today.
I would take exception to that. Not many actually poor people in this country. Sadly, I think that is about to change with inflation and food prices.
11% of America lives below the poverty line
48%-60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck
The most wealth ever generated in human history
Our system is broken. It's an oligarchy
Conscious capitalism is the only way
poverty line? according to who?
paycheck to paycheck so they can have unlimited data on their iphones?
I won't disagree we are entering the oligarchy stage. The inside trader DC types included.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
I think there's a chance your graphic is racially motivated. Just on the surface, it doesn't look well-researched or professional.
See link below, which basically says that race is irrelevant. "Racial distribution of mass shootings mirrors the racial distribution of the U.S. population as a whole." However, I think an argument can be made that the motivation for each shooting is where the problem is. Is a drunk shooting up a bar? Or is it someone who specifically targets people because of their race?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/4764...er-s-race/
Your link says there's only been 127 mass shootings over the last 40 years. (little over 3 a year) Yet if we look up any pro gun control website it'll tell us there's hundreds per year? Do we use the governments definitions or not? They're the ones that decided +4 made it a mass shooting event.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ MaroonBells said:
I think there's a chance your graphic is racially motivated. Just on the surface, it doesn't look well-researched or professional.
See link below, which basically says that race is irrelevant. "Racial distribution of mass shootings mirrors the racial distribution of the U.S. population as a whole." However, I think an argument can be made that the motivation for each shooting is where the problem is. Is a drunk shooting up a bar? Or is it someone who specifically targets people because of their race?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/4764...er-s-race/
Your link says there's only been 127 mass shootings over the last 40 years. (little over 3 a year) Yet if we look up any pro gun control website it'll tell us there's hundreds per year? Do we use the governments definitions or not? They're the ones that decided +4 made it a mass shooting event.
Everyone's definition is going to be different based on the point they're trying to make. You can do that with football stats too.
Quote: @Skodin said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline
America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters?
If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture? Really?
Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?
Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country.
Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades.
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . .
If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.
This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.
No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.
Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).
You know what I don't see? I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church.
You know what I did see? There were articles about how all Republicans were racist. There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory".
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ Skodin said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline
America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters?
If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture? Really?
Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?
Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country.
Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades.
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . .
If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.
This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.
No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.
Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).
You know what I don't see? I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church.
You know what I did see? There were articles about how all Republicans were racist. There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory".
I doubt there's too many of us who haven't heard of replacement theory. Especially after Charlottesville.
I'll just say that I'm happy to hear you don't watch Tucker Carlson. He supposedly has mentioned it on 400 episodes.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Skodin said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline
America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters?
If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture? Really?
Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?
Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country.
Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades.
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . .
If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.
This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.
No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.
Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).
You know what I don't see? I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church.
You know what I did see? There were articles about how all Republicans were racist. There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory".
I doubt there's too many of us who haven't heard of replacement theory. Especially after Charlottesville.
I'll just say that I'm happy to hear you don't watch Tucker Carlson. He supposedly has mentioned it on 400 episodes.
Not once have I heard of it. Had no idea it was a thing. Still don't think its a thing. It sure sounds like some boogeyman that was made up in the effort to shame white people for being white.
After that, isn't replacement what we're all striving for? I found a mate and replaced myself to carry on our genetic background. Every living being on the planet has been doing it since the beginning of time.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ MaroonBells said:
I think there's a chance your graphic is racially motivated. Just on the surface, it doesn't look well-researched or professional.
See link below, which basically says that race is irrelevant. "Racial distribution of mass shootings mirrors the racial distribution of the U.S. population as a whole." However, I think an argument can be made that the motivation for each shooting is where the problem is. Is a drunk shooting up a bar? Or is it someone who specifically targets people because of their race?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/4764...er-s-race/
Your link says there's only been 127 mass shootings over the last 40 years. (little over 3 a year) Yet if we look up any pro gun control website it'll tell us there's hundreds per year? Do we use the governments definitions or not? They're the ones that decided +4 made it a mass shooting event.
Everyone's definition is going to be different based on the point they're trying to make. You can do that with football stats too.
So....don't use the FBI's definition?
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Skodin said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline
America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters?
If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture? Really?
Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?
Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country.
Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades.
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . .
If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.
This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.
No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.
Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).
You know what I don't see? I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church.
You know what I did see? There were articles about how all Republicans were racist. There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory".
I doubt there's too many of us who haven't heard of replacement theory. Especially after Charlottesville.
I'll just say that I'm happy to hear you don't watch Tucker Carlson. He supposedly has mentioned it on 400 episodes.
Not once have I heard of it. Had no idea it was a thing. Still don't think its a thing. It sure sounds like some boogeyman that was made up in the effort to shame white people for being white.
After that, isn't replacement what we're all striving for? I found a mate and replaced myself to carry on our genetic background. Every living being on the planet has been doing it since the beginning of time.
No, it's the exact opposite. It says that white people around the world are being systematically replaced by non-white people. It leads to anger, resentment toward people of color, white victimization and islamophobia.
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