It was only ever going to get so good. Its an improvement, but of course it won't please everyone. The new FO and HC were saddled with a guaranteed contract number for their QB. Its a process of mitigating the situation and then deciding what the best course of action is: which may be making a little chicken salad out of chicken shit. Just because its been reported some teams were interested in trading for Cousins doesn't mean they were good offers.
Only one thing to do now, letsss gooooo
Quote: @MarkSP18 said:
@ JustinTime18™ said:
@ MarkSP18 said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ pattersaur said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Oddly structured extension but I'll take it
The story behind that is the Vikings wanted to tack on void years and Kirk would only do it if they offered at least a 1 year extension on the deal and no-trade clause. So Vikings were left deciding on a trade now or this deal they took.
So @MarkSP was right. Interesting. Kirk always the team player! /s
Yes he was, I figured Kirk would add them since it only benefitted him. But if you can get an extra $35M in the process, why not.
I'm not into being right or wrong. I was just debating it with the limited logic I have left. It did not make sense to me, if I was thinking like his agent, to let them add void years and have my client vulnerable to anything. Injuries can happen (knock on wood).
I am often very very wrong. Here is all you need to know about my QB evaluation capabilities.
I wanted to trade UP for Tim Tebow and would still do it today!
But I am a stubborn old goat.
As a 4th string TE?
I contend to this day that they messed the dude up trying to change his throwing motion and not EVER giving him the first team reps all through the offseason and letting him play 2 seasons at least.
First, his throwing motion was no worse than Randall Cunningham or Byron Leftwich.
Second, they never let him be with the ones in the offseason. The Vikings gave Ponder 30 something starts and two off seasons of running with the ones. Even though he was not the one, Spielman at least gave him enough rope before pulling the lever.
He probably still would have busted out but he never really got the chance because the coach that traded up for him was canned before his second season.
That's a...unique hill to die on.
IMO, the lack of QB talent in this draft played into the decision to extend KC as there's not a QB prospect that they could draft this year with a plan to start in 2023.
Another benefit of the extension is that it gives the new regime an opportunity to work with Mond for a full season. Hopefully, he will win the #2 job in training camp.
Quote: @JustinTime18™ said:
Only one thing to do now, letsss gooooo
Over the intercom in Egan about now, ...
Adam to the GMs office please, Adam Theilan to the GMs office.
Quote: @MarkSP18 said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ pattersaur said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Oddly structured extension but I'll take it
The story behind that is the Vikings wanted to tack on void years and Kirk would only do it if they offered at least a 1 year extension on the deal and no-trade clause. So Vikings were left deciding on a trade now or this deal they took.
So @MarkSP was right. Interesting. Kirk always the team player! /s
Yes he was, I figured Kirk would add them since it only benefitted him. But if you can get an extra $35M in the process, why not.
I'm not into being right or wrong. I was just debating it with the limited logic I have left. It did not make sense to me, if I was thinking like his agent, to let them add void years and have my client vulnerable to anything. Injuries can happen (knock on wood).
I am often very very wrong. Here is all you need to know about my QB evaluation capabilities.
I wanted to trade UP for Tim Tebow and would still do it today!
But I am a stubborn old goat.
I hope you're joking that you'd still do it today
Quote: @Hawkvike25 said:
@ MarkSP18 said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ pattersaur said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Oddly structured extension but I'll take it
The story behind that is the Vikings wanted to tack on void years and Kirk would only do it if they offered at least a 1 year extension on the deal and no-trade clause. So Vikings were left deciding on a trade now or this deal they took.
So @MarkSP was right. Interesting. Kirk always the team player! /s
Yes he was, I figured Kirk would add them since it only benefitted him. But if you can get an extra $35M in the process, why not.
I'm not into being right or wrong. I was just debating it with the limited logic I have left. It did not make sense to me, if I was thinking like his agent, to let them add void years and have my client vulnerable to anything. Injuries can happen (knock on wood).
I am often very very wrong. Here is all you need to know about my QB evaluation capabilities.
I wanted to trade UP for Tim Tebow and would still do it today!
But I am a stubborn old goat.
I hope you're joking that you'd still do it today
That would be the GOAT of stubborn old goats.
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ supafreak84 said:
@ pattersaur said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Soo we basically got Kirk for one more year with a reduced cap hit this year, more big money next year and we now no longer control his trade option, leaving us once again scrambling in two years to figure out our QB situation as Cousins turns 36 years old, hits free agency, and any trade value would be extremely dimimished anyways.
This is a win for Cousins and his agent, not for the Vikings. I hope O'Connell turns him into this bona-fide MVP Candidate that he thinks he can but I won't hold my breath. Oh and by the way, anybody holding out for a "stud" rookie to be drafted next year to groom can forget about it because the Vikings won't lose enough games to put us in contention to be drafting that high. This was the year and the time to make a move. Now we've essentially pigeon holed ourselves into a two year window to get it done with Cousins, a rookie coaching staff, and a defense that needs an overhaul with a new scheme being implemented. I think it's a poor strategy and will hold steadfast in that opinion until this organization proves me wrong.
This is a fair take but it was said weeks ago that the Wilfs don’t want a rebuild. We knew this and they own the team, not us. That doesn’t make you wrong and them right but it’s the reality.
The good part of this extension is it’s short, we gain stability at the position, and we get to see what Kirk can do with KOC. The bad part is we probably won’t stink this season so we aren’t getting a crack at the blue chip QBs in 2023 (story of the franchise) and we also have a very uphill battle to win the division this year.
If it’s true- as been reported- that KOC was adament about wanting Kirk, what can we do other than hope he knows what he’s doing.
Well the Wilfs are fools then if they think they can overhaul the entire front office, coaching staff, and not understand that rebuilding is probably the best way to move past mediocrity. They shitcanned Zim and Spielman because they were tired of being average. That's fair..but if they think tying themselves to Cousins for two more years for big money with a rookie coaching staff and a roster with holes the size of the Grand Canyon is the roght recipe for long term Super Bowl success...they are likely very, very wrong. Give me a young QB I can build around for the next decade, not an above average 35 year old that I'm continuously having to shell our big money for and figure out his contract. When you hit the organizational reset button like the Wilfs decided to do, that's the kind of thing you are opening themselves up for. Unfortunately for the Wilfs and all of us, we are going to get more mediocre results over the next couple years with no answer on a long term QB
I don't think a single move is indicative of their path. See what happens next. If they basically "run it back" then I would ask the question, how much does a chance in FO and coaching staff really mean? But I don't think that will need to be asked. This FO will put their spin on the roster, Kirk is just going to be a part of that.
Committing themselve's to Cousins and his contract for the next two years certainly is indicative of their path now. They can spin it however they want but the smart money is on this team being average again next year with a rookie coaching staff installing new systems on both sides of the ball and a defense with holes everywhere. Say they go 7-10, or 8-9 next season (likely), that puts them going into the following season with Cousins once again entering the final year of his contract with a no trade clause in his back pocket. It also puts them out of the running to draft one of the elite prospects in 2023. This was the year to make a move, free up big cap money moving forward, and position ourselves to draft an elite QB prospect in 2023. None of that likely happens now.
Thank you for your insight and for clarifying how the season will go. Why even play the season or even partake in the draft because their "likely" 8-9 season means we wont get anyone good from the draft.
Quote: @MarkSP18 said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ pattersaur said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Oddly structured extension but I'll take it
The story behind that is the Vikings wanted to tack on void years and Kirk would only do it if they offered at least a 1 year extension on the deal and no-trade clause. So Vikings were left deciding on a trade now or this deal they took.
So @MarkSP was right. Interesting. Kirk always the team player! /s
Yes he was, I figured Kirk would add them since it only benefitted him. But if you can get an extra $35M in the process, why not.
I'm not into being right or wrong. I was just debating it with the limited logic I have left. It did not make sense to me, if I was thinking like his agent, to let them add void years and have my client vulnerable to anything. Injuries can happen (knock on wood).
I am often very very wrong. Here is all you need to know about my QB evaluation capabilities.
I wanted to trade UP for Tim Tebow and would still do it today!
But I am a stubborn old goat.
Can I get an Amen....I said can I get an "A" men....louder now!
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So with all this inflation, does this pay a living wage?
He can fill up his Kia with premium.
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