Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Riphawkins said:
@ minny65 said:
@ StickyBun said:
The worst part was the gagfest with The Rock opening the game.
That was embarrassing and I am not sure if the Rock knows it so can you tell him for me 
I actually put it on mute and fast forwarded and was shocked how long he went on for.
I liked the talking baby commercial in the beginning/maybe before the game. Of course, I have no idea what product it was promoting.
Oh and all the electric car commercials...if anyone still thinks electric cars are not the future you are over 85 years old and don't have much time/future remaining anyway.
They are the future, but only because they are being forced upon us. I’m not necessarily opposed, but it won’t be by choice.
If I lived in a metro area and didnt travel as much for work, they would be fine, but out in rural America I think we are a ways off yet. The battery and charging technology needs to be vastly improved before I think we really see the EV revolution take hold in rural America.
Yea EV is not for everyone right now but probably for about 75% of drivers. The commercials were for high end sports sedans (BMW) but the trucks and SUV's will be out in the market very shortly.
The technology is so far advanced from 15 years ago that almost all the misnomers have all become misinformation.
The market decides and nothing is being forced upon anyone. If you don't want one don't buy one and not everything has to have a political slant, like I said the market will ultimately determine with or without gov't support or non support.
Drive one and your mind will change.
Quote: @minny65 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Riphawkins said:
@ minny65 said:
@ StickyBun said:
The worst part was the gagfest with The Rock opening the game.
That was embarrassing and I am not sure if the Rock knows it so can you tell him for me
I actually put it on mute and fast forwarded and was shocked how long he went on for.
I liked the talking baby commercial in the beginning/maybe before the game. Of course, I have no idea what product it was promoting.
Oh and all the electric car commercials...if anyone still thinks electric cars are not the future you are over 85 years old and don't have much time/future remaining anyway.
They are the future, but only because they are being forced upon us. I’m not necessarily opposed, but it won’t be by choice.
If I lived in a metro area and didnt travel as much for work, they would be fine, but out in rural America I think we are a ways off yet. The battery and charging technology needs to be vastly improved before I think we really see the EV revolution take hold in rural America.
Yea EV is not for everyone right now but probably for about 75% of drivers. The commercials were for high end sports sedans (BMW) but the trucks and SUV's will be out in the market very shortly.
The technology is so far advanced from 15 years ago that almost all the misnomers have all become misinformation.
The market decides and nothing is being forced upon anyone. If you don't want one don't buy one and not everything has to have a political slant, like I said the market will ultimately determine with or without gov't support or non support.
Drive one and your mind will change.
its not a political slant at all, I have been looking at them for a while now, they just arent there for me due to the miles I drive and the lack of charging options in much of rural America. I was really interested in the ford f150 EV, but again the lack of range is concerning, lots of places I drive that I know I wont have a charging station available and I dont want to be forced to design my sales trips or vacations around hotels with charging stations. Some of the places I see them popping up just dont make sense to me. Hy-vee has a bunch, who shops for groceries long enough to charge their vehicle?
Yes they have come a long way, and if I drove 60 miles a day, was in my garage every night so I could have it on a 220v charger, it would be doable, but spending time away from a 220v charging system they just arent feasible since they take about a week or 2 on a 110v system to charge back up.
I think one of the biggest drivers for Musk to get into space is new metals and materials to expand the battery tech side of his operations. we need lighter batteries with long run times and shorter charging periods IMO, otherwise we need to see a new direction in that we have a small generator in the vehicles to create the power from some other fuel as we drive.
I liked the EV commercials a lot too!
Always surprised at how much $ Turbo Tax, Intuit spend on the SB ads
Overall, I thought it was a un-remarkable year for the advertisers/marketers
Quote: @minny65 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Riphawkins said:
@ minny65 said:
@ StickyBun said:
The worst part was the gagfest with The Rock opening the game.
That was embarrassing and I am not sure if the Rock knows it so can you tell him for me
I actually put it on mute and fast forwarded and was shocked how long he went on for.
I liked the talking baby commercial in the beginning/maybe before the game. Of course, I have no idea what product it was promoting.
Oh and all the electric car commercials...if anyone still thinks electric cars are not the future you are over 85 years old and don't have much time/future remaining anyway.
They are the future, but only because they are being forced upon us. I’m not necessarily opposed, but it won’t be by choice.
If I lived in a metro area and didnt travel as much for work, they would be fine, but out in rural America I think we are a ways off yet. The battery and charging technology needs to be vastly improved before I think we really see the EV revolution take hold in rural America.
Yea EV is not for everyone right now but probably for about 75% of drivers. The commercials were for high end sports sedans (BMW) but the trucks and SUV's will be out in the market very shortly.
The technology is so far advanced from 15 years ago that almost all the misnomers have all become misinformation.
The market decides and nothing is being forced upon anyone. If you don't want one don't buy one and not everything has to have a political slant, like I said the market will ultimately determine with or without gov't support or non support.
Drive one and your mind will change.
Nope, nothing being forced on anyone and choices are good...
As has been said, infra-structure needs to catch-up, protocols across brands provided, batteries and charging systems need to get better/faster/cheaper and a lot of homes are going to need access to level 2 charging overnight.
EV adoption will absolutely accelerate, but its got a long ways to go still. Solid state batteries are going to be key.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Riphawkins said:
@ minny65 said:
@ StickyBun said:
The worst part was the gagfest with The Rock opening the game.
That was embarrassing and I am not sure if the Rock knows it so can you tell him for me
I actually put it on mute and fast forwarded and was shocked how long he went on for.
I liked the talking baby commercial in the beginning/maybe before the game. Of course, I have no idea what product it was promoting.
Oh and all the electric car commercials...if anyone still thinks electric cars are not the future you are over 85 years old and don't have much time/future remaining anyway.
They are the future, but only because they are being forced upon us. I’m not necessarily opposed, but it won’t be by choice.
If I lived in a metro area and didnt travel as much for work, they would be fine, but out in rural America I think we are a ways off yet. The battery and charging technology needs to be vastly improved before I think we really see the EV revolution take hold in rural America.
Yea EV is not for everyone right now but probably for about 75% of drivers. The commercials were for high end sports sedans (BMW) but the trucks and SUV's will be out in the market very shortly.
The technology is so far advanced from 15 years ago that almost all the misnomers have all become misinformation.
The market decides and nothing is being forced upon anyone. If you don't want one don't buy one and not everything has to have a political slant, like I said the market will ultimately determine with or without gov't support or non support.
Drive one and your mind will change.
its not a political slant at all, I have been looking at them for a while now, they just arent there for me due to the miles I drive and the lack of charging options in much of rural America. I was really interested in the ford f150 EV, but again the lack of range is concerning, lots of places I drive that I know I wont have a charging station available and I dont want to be forced to design my sales trips or vacations around hotels with charging stations. Some of the places I see them popping up just dont make sense to me. Hy-vee has a bunch, who shops for groceries long enough to charge their vehicle?
Yes they have come a long way, and if I drove 60 miles a day, was in my garage every night so I could have it on a 220v charger, it would be doable, but spending time away from a 220v charging system they just arent feasible since they take about a week or 2 on a 110v system to charge back up.
I think one of the biggest drivers for Musk to get into space is new metals and materials to expand the battery tech side of his operations. we need lighter batteries with long run times and shorter charging periods IMO, otherwise we need to see a new direction in that we have a small generator in the vehicles to create the power from some other fuel as we drive.
Like by some sort of "engine" that could generate power from a source of energy that is readily available and has a decent shelf life? Maybe it could even borrow some technology from the old dirty vehicles people used to drive.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ minny65 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Riphawkins said:
@ minny65 said:
@ StickyBun said:
The worst part was the gagfest with The Rock opening the game.
That was embarrassing and I am not sure if the Rock knows it so can you tell him for me
I actually put it on mute and fast forwarded and was shocked how long he went on for.
I liked the talking baby commercial in the beginning/maybe before the game. Of course, I have no idea what product it was promoting.
Oh and all the electric car commercials...if anyone still thinks electric cars are not the future you are over 85 years old and don't have much time/future remaining anyway.
They are the future, but only because they are being forced upon us. I’m not necessarily opposed, but it won’t be by choice.
If I lived in a metro area and didnt travel as much for work, they would be fine, but out in rural America I think we are a ways off yet. The battery and charging technology needs to be vastly improved before I think we really see the EV revolution take hold in rural America.
Yea EV is not for everyone right now but probably for about 75% of drivers. The commercials were for high end sports sedans (BMW) but the trucks and SUV's will be out in the market very shortly.
The technology is so far advanced from 15 years ago that almost all the misnomers have all become misinformation.
The market decides and nothing is being forced upon anyone. If you don't want one don't buy one and not everything has to have a political slant, like I said the market will ultimately determine with or without gov't support or non support.
Drive one and your mind will change.
Nope, nothing being forced on anyone and choices are good...
As has been said, infra-structure needs to catch-up, protocols across brands provided, batteries and charging systems need to get better/faster/cheaper and a lot of homes are going to need access to level 2 charging overnight.
EV adoption will absolutely accelerate, but its got a long ways to go still. Solid state batteries are going to be key.
The EV adoption needs to start paying its way when it comes to highway upkeep. Roads don't plow themselves, potholes don't fill themselves. Bridges don't maintain themselves.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Riphawkins said:
@ minny65 said:
@ StickyBun said:
The worst part was the gagfest with The Rock opening the game.
That was embarrassing and I am not sure if the Rock knows it so can you tell him for me
I actually put it on mute and fast forwarded and was shocked how long he went on for.
I liked the talking baby commercial in the beginning/maybe before the game. Of course, I have no idea what product it was promoting.
Oh and all the electric car commercials...if anyone still thinks electric cars are not the future you are over 85 years old and don't have much time/future remaining anyway.
They are the future, but only because they are being forced upon us. I’m not necessarily opposed, but it won’t be by choice.
If I lived in a metro area and didnt travel as much for work, they would be fine, but out in rural America I think we are a ways off yet. The battery and charging technology needs to be vastly improved before I think we really see the EV revolution take hold in rural America.
Yea EV is not for everyone right now but probably for about 75% of drivers. The commercials were for high end sports sedans (BMW) but the trucks and SUV's will be out in the market very shortly.
The technology is so far advanced from 15 years ago that almost all the misnomers have all become misinformation.
The market decides and nothing is being forced upon anyone. If you don't want one don't buy one and not everything has to have a political slant, like I said the market will ultimately determine with or without gov't support or non support.
Drive one and your mind will change.
its not a political slant at all, I have been looking at them for a while now, they just arent there for me due to the miles I drive and the lack of charging options in much of rural America. I was really interested in the ford f150 EV, but again the lack of range is concerning, lots of places I drive that I know I wont have a charging station available and I dont want to be forced to design my sales trips or vacations around hotels with charging stations. Some of the places I see them popping up just dont make sense to me. Hy-vee has a bunch, who shops for groceries long enough to charge their vehicle?
Yes they have come a long way, and if I drove 60 miles a day, was in my garage every night so I could have it on a 220v charger, it would be doable, but spending time away from a 220v charging system they just arent feasible since they take about a week or 2 on a 110v system to charge back up.
I think one of the biggest drivers for Musk to get into space is new metals and materials to expand the battery tech side of his operations. we need lighter batteries with long run times and shorter charging periods IMO, otherwise we need to see a new direction in that we have a small generator in the vehicles to create the power from some other fuel as we drive.
Like by some sort of "engine" that could generate power from a source of energy that is readily available and has a decent shelf life? Maybe it could even borrow some technology from the old dirty vehicles people used to drive.
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its Mr Fusion time baby!!!
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Riphawkins said:
@ minny65 said:
@ StickyBun said:
The worst part was the gagfest with The Rock opening the game.
That was embarrassing and I am not sure if the Rock knows it so can you tell him for me
I actually put it on mute and fast forwarded and was shocked how long he went on for.
I liked the talking baby commercial in the beginning/maybe before the game. Of course, I have no idea what product it was promoting.
Oh and all the electric car commercials...if anyone still thinks electric cars are not the future you are over 85 years old and don't have much time/future remaining anyway.
They are the future, but only because they are being forced upon us. I’m not necessarily opposed, but it won’t be by choice.
If I lived in a metro area and didnt travel as much for work, they would be fine, but out in rural America I think we are a ways off yet. The battery and charging technology needs to be vastly improved before I think we really see the EV revolution take hold in rural America.
Yea EV is not for everyone right now but probably for about 75% of drivers. The commercials were for high end sports sedans (BMW) but the trucks and SUV's will be out in the market very shortly.
The technology is so far advanced from 15 years ago that almost all the misnomers have all become misinformation.
The market decides and nothing is being forced upon anyone. If you don't want one don't buy one and not everything has to have a political slant, like I said the market will ultimately determine with or without gov't support or non support.
Drive one and your mind will change.
its not a political slant at all, I have been looking at them for a while now, they just arent there for me due to the miles I drive and the lack of charging options in much of rural America. I was really interested in the ford f150 EV, but again the lack of range is concerning, lots of places I drive that I know I wont have a charging station available and I dont want to be forced to design my sales trips or vacations around hotels with charging stations. Some of the places I see them popping up just dont make sense to me. Hy-vee has a bunch, who shops for groceries long enough to charge their vehicle?
Yes they have come a long way, and if I drove 60 miles a day, was in my garage every night so I could have it on a 220v charger, it would be doable, but spending time away from a 220v charging system they just arent feasible since they take about a week or 2 on a 110v system to charge back up.
I think one of the biggest drivers for Musk to get into space is new metals and materials to expand the battery tech side of his operations. we need lighter batteries with long run times and shorter charging periods IMO, otherwise we need to see a new direction in that we have a small generator in the vehicles to create the power from some other fuel as we drive.
Oh yeah I know it is not a political slant I was directed that at RIP because he used EV was being forced on us. I'm pretty sure we have had this discussion before and like I said they are not for everyone now.
I drive a 2014 Tesla Model S for a sales job that covers most of PA and upstate NY out to Buffalo. I bought the car for several reasons but the main one is that I get paid gas mileage and pay for no gas. So, I am getting paid to drive an awesome car. There are Supercharger stations about an hour in every direction from any location and that will be improving down to about within every 40 minutes then 30 and then 20 and it will be in sync with the market shift. My Model S only gets a full charge of about 250 miles which is not great but that is 2014. Now, I think the new ones (tesla's at least) get around 400 miles which is usually more than you would get with a tank of gas. Also, the time it takes to fully charge keeps improving as well. It was about an hour to get from 0-250 a few years ago and now it is under 45 minutes. I have become much more productive "administratively" while I wait for charge. Make phone calls, do my call reporting, expense reports, eat lunch. It has forced me to become more efficient which was a surprising perk for me because once my sales day is done, I hate coming home to do paperwork.
I live in a fairly rural area in NE PA and I was one of the first people around here to have the full EV. The guy who came to put the charger in at my house said he was looking forward to doing it because he had been reading up on them and wanted to install. A that time, to have the charger installed at my house in the driveway it cost me $550 for the Tesla Charger and another $500 install charge. I just plug it in every time I get home and then use the app to charge. I have my charging set vis the app for when the electrical charge is at it's lowest, so it probably charges from like 3-6 in the morning to get back up to the 250....which is over 400 on the new vehicles.
Everything is improving rapidly in the EV market and now all the biggies are catching up (all those commercials) and that will result in even faster improvement in charging time, location, distance you name it.
You might pay more for an EV up front, but I spend almost nothing on this car. No engine to maintain, no oil, no exhaust issue, and WOW is this thing fast and fun to drive. The only thing I really spend money on are tires but they are the same tires I put on my Infiniti, so it is not more. One big difference, other than gas, that I have saved a lot of money on vs my Infiniti is brakes. The regenerative braking system in the Tesla is great. I have 120,000 miles on the Tesla and have not needed to replace the brakes. I have about 170,000 on the Infinity and I have probably had to put on all new brakes/pads etc at least 7 or 8 times. I do like to drive these sports sedans hard. I would conservatively estimate that I have put at least $1800 dollars a year on average into the Infinity over the 10 years I have had it so about $18,000 (tires, brakes, oil, maintenance - not including gas). My Tesla, in the 5 years I have owned (I bought both a year or two old) I have had 2 sets of Michelin tires so around $1800 total and I did have to pay for one of my doors mechanisms not opening $400....so total about $2200 for 5 years of driving on the Tesla and $9000 every 5 years on the Infinity...not including gas expense. EV's are not going to have the maintenance cost of gas cars over time.
That all said, they are currently not for everyone and those that are resistant to change, or new technology will be driving around gas guzzlers because they make a great engine sound Kidding but obviously and not a monster truck gear head like my neighbor across the street who owns 4 or 5 old corvettes....yes we do hang out.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ greediron said:
Did anyone watch them?
Seems lots of them got a pre-release online. Kinda seems odd.
I didn't watch too many, the Uber Eats caught my eye. It was pretty lame, but there was a not so subtle easter egg. Anyone else catch that?
Are you referring to the candle?
Yes.
Quote: @minny65 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Riphawkins said:
@ minny65 said:
@ StickyBun said:
The worst part was the gagfest with The Rock opening the game.
That was embarrassing and I am not sure if the Rock knows it so can you tell him for me
I actually put it on mute and fast forwarded and was shocked how long he went on for.
I liked the talking baby commercial in the beginning/maybe before the game. Of course, I have no idea what product it was promoting.
Oh and all the electric car commercials...if anyone still thinks electric cars are not the future you are over 85 years old and don't have much time/future remaining anyway.
They are the future, but only because they are being forced upon us. I’m not necessarily opposed, but it won’t be by choice.
If I lived in a metro area and didnt travel as much for work, they would be fine, but out in rural America I think we are a ways off yet. The battery and charging technology needs to be vastly improved before I think we really see the EV revolution take hold in rural America.
Yea EV is not for everyone right now but probably for about 75% of drivers. The commercials were for high end sports sedans (BMW) but the trucks and SUV's will be out in the market very shortly.
The technology is so far advanced from 15 years ago that almost all the misnomers have all become misinformation.
The market decides and nothing is being forced upon anyone. If you don't want one don't buy one and not everything has to have a political slant, like I said the market will ultimately determine with or without gov't support or non support.
Drive one and your mind will change.
The government is pushing the evolution of electric powered everything. While the market ultimately may decide, it is being pushed by the powers that be. They are pushing it by tightening emissions and mileage requirements. So, don’t for a second think only consumers will decide the fate of vehicles that burn fossil fuels.
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