Quote: @Kentis said:
#12 sounds a lot like #45 today…  B)
He fast tracked the vaccine, he got it himself, and he has encouraged people to get vaccinated, how do they compare?
Quote: @VikingOracle said:
@ Kentis said:
#12 sounds a lot like #45 today… B)
Actually Trump is vaccinated. His whole family is vaccinated. Many of his properties require masks.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Kentis said:
#12 sounds a lot like #45 today… B)
He fast tracked the vaccine, he got it himself, and he has encouraged people to get vaccinated, how do they compare?
Was referring to the “witch hunt”, “woke mob”, & “playing the victim” type public defense, sorry for the misunderstanding… B)
Quote: @AGRforever said:
There isnt science on your side. Logic, science, mathmatics, statistics and on and on. Just bullshit you read or watched on the internet.
I think others have already made my point for me. It seems like you really don't know what science means. You think Joe Biden and Fauci are science. I think they are the furthest thing from that. If Fauci were science, he wouldn't constantly contradict himself before stuff ever comes out of his mouth. Both are also guilty of lying non-stop, so there's that too.
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ VikingOracle said:
@ Waterboy said:
Hi Waterboy:
I had an epiphany about this discussion last night. I know you are trying to bring your views to the argument but keep in mind that there is only one group that can actually change their course of action at this time -- the unvaccinated such as yourself. I am vaccinated and boosted. Even if I suddenly changed my mind about the efficacy of the vaccine I am still already vaccinated; it is irreversible. So all your arguments, etc., can do no good -- you are only justifying your own decision -- you can't make the vaccinated reverse course. Maybe you feel personally attacked, etc. but really your only response is that you have looked at a whole spectrum of information and your risk assessment is that it is better to remain unvaccinated. While we, the vaccinated, hope we can convince the unvaccinated to modify their course, the unvaccinated can't change the course of the vaccinated because we have already cast off. Please keep in mind also, that we advocate because we think it will potentially save your life and, in comparison, nothing you can write can change what we have irreversibly already done.
Its an eloquent thought, but the unvaccinated aren't getting vaccinated for reasons that are emotional, not logical. They either choose to believe its harmful (which it isn't) or they don't want to be told what to do. It's that simple. 'I'm an American, I won't be forced to do anything!'. Riiiiight. Talk about entitlement. They continue to pivot to new rationale when prior rationale has been debunked.
So I respect the way you are debating, but it's useless. I've learned that during COVID. 58% of this country is vaccinated, its a GD joke. And its taken this long just to get to that number.
How the fuck do you know? Sorry, but that is your emotional opinion, not a logical statement.
I know because I talk to WAY too many people down here in Florida that won't get vaccinated. That's how the fuck I know. There's not a fucking thing to be logical about NOT GETTING VACCINATED.
I don't know how to respond to this other than to say, you need to read a lot more if you think the science is on your side. There's very little emotion in my viewpoint. Since I lost someone very close to me to Covid, the easiest path would be the emotional one to believe the vaccine will rescue all of us. It's clearly not the case, and it looks to be causing a lot of damage along the way, with much (very much) still unknown.
There isnt science on your side. Logic, science, mathmatics, statistics and on and on. Just bullshit you read or watched on the internet.
I think others have already made my point for me. It seems like you really don't know what science means. You think Joe Biden and Fauci are science. I think they are the furthest thing from that. If Fauci were science, he wouldn't constantly contradict himself before stuff ever comes out of his mouth. Both are also guilty of lying non-stop, so there's that too.
I’m anything but a lefty if youve read any umber of my political posts prior to covid. I do numbers for a living. To get vaccinated wasn’t much of a decision.
SF’s blackjack analogy is pretty spot on.
I've done numbers my entire career as well. If you only choose to study the ones that are spoon fed to you, then they will invariably lie to you. Why do you think Big Tech, the MSM, and the White House have an organized battle out to hide all counterpoints from the internet, media, and from general conversation. You can buy their BS, I'll think a little bit about who's feeding it and why. I love how your side chooses to ignore the changing goal posts on the vaccine almost on a daily basis, and fear looking ahead to our future and to reality setting in about the vaccines effectiveness. You guys are to the point of jabbing little kids when we know the vaccine presents much more danger to them than any type of protection. People that support that are simply looking out for themselves in my opinion in a way that they accuse others of doing.
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@ AGRforever said:
There isnt science on your side. Logic, science, mathmatics, statistics and on and on. Just bullshit you read or watched on the internet.
I think others have already made my point for me. It seems like you really don't know what science means. You think Joe Biden and Fauci are science. I think they are the furthest thing from that. If Fauci were science, he wouldn't constantly contradict himself before stuff ever comes out of his mouth. Both are also guilty of lying non-stop, so there's that too.
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Waterboy said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ VikingOracle said:
@ Waterboy said:
Hi Waterboy:
I had an epiphany about this discussion last night. I know you are trying to bring your views to the argument but keep in mind that there is only one group that can actually change their course of action at this time -- the unvaccinated such as yourself. I am vaccinated and boosted. Even if I suddenly changed my mind about the efficacy of the vaccine I am still already vaccinated; it is irreversible. So all your arguments, etc., can do no good -- you are only justifying your own decision -- you can't make the vaccinated reverse course. Maybe you feel personally attacked, etc. but really your only response is that you have looked at a whole spectrum of information and your risk assessment is that it is better to remain unvaccinated. While we, the vaccinated, hope we can convince the unvaccinated to modify their course, the unvaccinated can't change the course of the vaccinated because we have already cast off. Please keep in mind also, that we advocate because we think it will potentially save your life and, in comparison, nothing you can write can change what we have irreversibly already done.
Its an eloquent thought, but the unvaccinated aren't getting vaccinated for reasons that are emotional, not logical. They either choose to believe its harmful (which it isn't) or they don't want to be told what to do. It's that simple. 'I'm an American, I won't be forced to do anything!'. Riiiiight. Talk about entitlement. They continue to pivot to new rationale when prior rationale has been debunked.
So I respect the way you are debating, but it's useless. I've learned that during COVID. 58% of this country is vaccinated, its a GD joke. And its taken this long just to get to that number.
How the fuck do you know? Sorry, but that is your emotional opinion, not a logical statement.
I know because I talk to WAY too many people down here in Florida that won't get vaccinated. That's how the fuck I know. There's not a fucking thing to be logical about NOT GETTING VACCINATED.
I don't know how to respond to this other than to say, you need to read a lot more if you think the science is on your side. There's very little emotion in my viewpoint. Since I lost someone very close to me to Covid, the easiest path would be the emotional one to believe the vaccine will rescue all of us. It's clearly not the case, and it looks to be causing a lot of damage along the way, with much (very much) still unknown.
There isnt science on your side. Logic, science, mathmatics, statistics and on and on. Just bullshit you read or watched on the internet.
I think others have already made my point for me. It seems like you really don't know what science means. You think Joe Biden and Fauci are science. I think they are the furthest thing from that. If Fauci were science, he wouldn't constantly contradict himself before stuff ever comes out of his mouth. Both are also guilty of lying non-stop, so there's that too.
I’m anything but a lefty if youve read any umber of my political posts prior to covid. I do numbers for a living. To get vaccinated wasn’t much of a decision.
SF’s blackjack analogy is pretty spot on.
I've done numbers my entire career as well. If you only choose to study the ones that are spoon fed to you, then they will invariably lie to you. Why do you think Big Tech, the MSM, and the White House have an organized battle out to hide all counterpoints from the internet, media, and from general conversation. You can buy their BS, I'll think a little bit about who's feeding it and why.
AGR is a level headed dude, he isnt going to eat shit just because of the source. If he trusts the source and the information he is getting, whats that to you or anybody else? this shit is hardly settled science for either side and for anybody to be making disparaging claims on damn near any point is really premature and ignorant IMO. Ive seen the stuff from india and other places, its interesting, but I dont know that I would stand on a soap box and make claims to its accuracy as I dont know that I put much faith in some of the reporting agencies and media sites. I also can say I dont trust the drug companies to be doing any of this shit in our best interest, while saying that I dont think they would knowingly put a product on the worldwide market that they thought would be widely unsafe and could sink their futures. We can all get sick and die from about anything if the timing is right, I dont buy the hype around the vaccine, but I sure as hell am not afraid of it either.
"If you only choose numbers that are spoon fed to you "
Now if only we knew how to explain the concept of irony to you
Yeah crazy CDC and they're zany numbers are all lies, they're in cahoots with the MSM, the White House, FDA, the international medical community, they're all in on it dude!
Let me guess, you were banking on JFK Jr. to make an appearance in Texas last week too
LOL
Nuckin' Futs
Quote: @greediron said:
Nothing pitchfork about quoting Rodgers.
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
"If you only choose numbers that are spoon fed to you "
Now if only we knew how to explain the concept of irony to you
Yeah crazy CDC and they're zany numbers are all lies, they're in cahoots with the MSM, the White House, FDA, the international medical community, they're all in on it dude!
Let me guess, you were banking on JFK Jr. to make an appearance in Texas last week too
LOL
Nuckin' Futs
Umm, are you losing it dude???  How many times do you hit that old enter button out of frustration? If only someone could unlock the key as to what all of those organizations all have in common, or the common motives?
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