Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
The Minnesota #Vikings and Philadelphia #Eagles discussed a deal that would have sent Eagles tight end Dallas Goedert to the Vikings, according to Matt Lombardo.
Why did the trade fall through? Sounds like Philadelphia’s asking price for the tight end was too high.
Wow, now that would've been something. Happy with the Herndon trade, but would've been jacked to see Goedert.
Herndon, pre Gase, pre injury, was damn fine.
He sure was a hot commodity in a lot of fantasy conversations the last few years. And he's even younger than Goedert, which seems shocking to me. There's a decent chance he ends up better than Goedert. God knows his surround/coach/QB didn't help him any. Let's put it this way, I'd rather have Herndon for a 50 slot day-3 downgrade than Goedert for the 2nd rounder the Eagles were likely asking.
Why are the eagles trying to dump Goedert? Thought he was the next up and coming stud TE.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
The Minnesota #Vikings and Philadelphia #Eagles discussed a deal that would have sent Eagles tight end Dallas Goedert to the Vikings, according to Matt Lombardo.
Why did the trade fall through? Sounds like Philadelphia’s asking price for the tight end was too high.
Wow, now that would've been something. Happy with the Herndon trade, but would've been jacked to see Goedert.
Herndon, pre Gase, pre injury, was damn fine.
He sure was a hot commodity in a lot of fantasy conversations the last few years. And he's even younger than Goedert, which seems shocking to me. There's a decent chance he ends up better than Goedert. God knows his surround/coach/QB didn't help him any. Let's put it this way, I'd rather have Herndon for a 50 slot day-3 downgrade than Goedert for the 2nd rounder the Eagles were likely asking.
Lots of guys get talked up in fantasy, doesn't mean they all turn out to be good. I wouldn't like either of those trades, but if I had to choose one over the other... give me the athletic, more productive guy than the failed dude that was suspended four games for driving drunk and piling into a 76-year old man's vehicle.
Bottom line is we need one of the TE's and WR3 to step up. Not sure who it will be if anyone. I like the info on Herndon being a good blocker (if true) because our OL needs help.
Looks to me like we are going to miss reliable Rudy more then we thought. He really turned into a good blocker over time, has great hands, and was very reliable in RZ. So slow after the catch but hey can't have it all...can we, this is the Vikings!!!
Quote: @Wetlander said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
The Minnesota #Vikings and Philadelphia #Eagles discussed a deal that would have sent Eagles tight end Dallas Goedert to the Vikings, according to Matt Lombardo.
Why did the trade fall through? Sounds like Philadelphia’s asking price for the tight end was too high.
Wow, now that would've been something. Happy with the Herndon trade, but would've been jacked to see Goedert.
Herndon, pre Gase, pre injury, was damn fine.
He sure was a hot commodity in a lot of fantasy conversations the last few years. And he's even younger than Goedert, which seems shocking to me. There's a decent chance he ends up better than Goedert. God knows his surround/coach/QB didn't help him any. Let's put it this way, I'd rather have Herndon for a 50 slot day-3 downgrade than Goedert for the 2nd rounder the Eagles were likely asking.
Lots of guys get talked up in fantasy, doesn't mean they all turn out to be good.
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Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
The Minnesota #Vikings and Philadelphia #Eagles discussed a deal that would have sent Eagles tight end Dallas Goedert to the Vikings, according to Matt Lombardo.
Why did the trade fall through? Sounds like Philadelphia’s asking price for the tight end was too high.
Wow, now that would've been something. Happy with the Herndon trade, but would've been jacked to see Goedert.
Herndon, pre Gase, pre injury, was damn fine.
Maybe it's just me, but he seems to be a slightly less explosive version of Irv. I'd take that considering the circumstances.
Herndon is young and has talent, came into the league more raw. The only way he works out if he works hard and gives the effort. Maybe a much more settled QB situation and an accurate QB will light a fire under him.
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
Definitely too rich, but I think they really want to run 12 personnel.
They tried that a few years back and it cost them a shot at a superbowl. :p
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ Wetlander said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
The Minnesota #Vikings and Philadelphia #Eagles discussed a deal that would have sent Eagles tight end Dallas Goedert to the Vikings, according to Matt Lombardo.
Why did the trade fall through? Sounds like Philadelphia’s asking price for the tight end was too high.
Wow, now that would've been something. Happy with the Herndon trade, but would've been jacked to see Goedert.
Herndon, pre Gase, pre injury, was damn fine.
He sure was a hot commodity in a lot of fantasy conversations the last few years. And he's even younger than Goedert, which seems shocking to me. There's a decent chance he ends up better than Goedert. God knows his surround/coach/QB didn't help him any. Let's put it this way, I'd rather have Herndon for a 50 slot day-3 downgrade than Goedert for the 2nd rounder the Eagles were likely asking.
Lots of guys get talked up in fantasy, doesn't mean they all turn out to be good.
Well that was basically your rationale for liking the trade. He was talked up for years in fantasy football convos, he's younger than Goedert, and has a decent chance to be better than him...
Nothing wrong with a glass half full outlook, but let's be realistic. Herndon does have some upside based strictly on his athletic profile, but injuries and off the field issues have left a dark stain on his first few years in the league. Nothing wrong with thinking Herndon has some upside left, but you lose me when you start rationalizing it by stating he could end up being better than a young, squeaky clean, more productive TE. It just looks like homerism is all.
Quote: @Wetlander said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ Wetlander said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
The Minnesota #Vikings and Philadelphia #Eagles discussed a deal that would have sent Eagles tight end Dallas Goedert to the Vikings, according to Matt Lombardo.
Why did the trade fall through? Sounds like Philadelphia’s asking price for the tight end was too high.
Wow, now that would've been something. Happy with the Herndon trade, but would've been jacked to see Goedert.
Herndon, pre Gase, pre injury, was damn fine.
He sure was a hot commodity in a lot of fantasy conversations the last few years. And he's even younger than Goedert, which seems shocking to me. There's a decent chance he ends up better than Goedert. God knows his surround/coach/QB didn't help him any. Let's put it this way, I'd rather have Herndon for a 50 slot day-3 downgrade than Goedert for the 2nd rounder the Eagles were likely asking.
Lots of guys get talked up in fantasy, doesn't mean they all turn out to be good.
Well that was basically your rationale for liking the trade. He was talked up for years in fantasy football convos, he's younger than Goedert, and has a decent chance to be better than him...
Nothing wrong with a glass half full outlook, but let's be realistic. Herndon does have some upside based strictly on his athletic profile, but injuries and off the field issues have left a dark stain on his first few years in the league. Nothing wrong with thinking Herndon has some upside left, but you lose me when you start rationalizing it by stating he could end up being better than a young, squeaky clean, more productive TE. It just looks like homerism is all.
Jesus, Wetlander, that was an aside, not a justification for the trade. Yes, of course I'd prefer Goedert. I said so. "I like the Herndon trade, but would've been jacked about landing Goedert."
HOWEVER, like I also said, I'd rather have Herndon for a 50 slot drop on day three than Goedert for the 2nd rounder the Eagles were likely asking.
And yes, of course there's a chance Herndon can be better. Big time athleticism and upside in a much better offense bodes well for him. And it's not like Goedert has looked like the next Kelce or Kittle. Curious he was on the market instead of Ertz.
It's not homerism, it's just the truth. I know folks don't care much for the truth when they'd rather hear confirmation that we suck and can't have anything nice. I've never understood that.
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