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09-01-2021, 10:47 AM

Spielman makes some really head scratching trades sometimes... this is awful.

09-01-2021, 10:51 AM

Quote: @Wetlander said:
Spielman makes some really head scratching trades sometimes... this is awful.

When there is an obvious need or he's desperate, that's when Trader Rick is at his worst. I don't really have a problem with him much and he's done some great drafts, but this reminds of the kicker we traded for a 5th for Vedvik.

09-01-2021, 11:26 AM

https://www.espn.com/blog/minnesota-viki...atform=amp&__twitter_impression=true

09-01-2021, 11:31 AM

Quote: @Tyr said:
He has starting experience and played under Dennison before, so hopefully that makes his transition a little quicker. Not expecting a ton out of him, but if he can block well and serve as an outlet receiver until Smith gets back, then I'd be happy with the move.

^^^

100% this...

09-01-2021, 11:34 AM

Quote: @StickyBun said:

@Wetlander said:
Spielman makes some really head scratching trades sometimes... this is awful.
When there is an obvious need or he's desperate, that's when Trader Rick is at his worst. I don't really have a problem with him much and he's done some great drafts, but this reminds of the kicker we traded for a 5th for Vedvik.

Rick on draft day? Very good at manipulating the draft to acquire players... trades right before the season... significant overpays... Vedvik for a 5th... Yannick for a 2nd... Bradford for a 1st and 4th... WTF...

Herndon may turn out to be a solid replacement for Irv until he's healthy, but it's still an overpay. This guy wasn't going to make the Jets roster and we gave up a 4th round pick??? There are fringe roster guys getting traded for 6th and 7th round pick swaps or future 2023 6ths and 7ths...

I mean I would understand if this was Zach Ertz or Evan Engram, but Chris Herndon? He got suckered.

09-01-2021, 11:37 AM

Quote: @Wetlander said:

@StickyBun said:

@Wetlander said:
Spielman makes some really head scratching trades sometimes... this is awful.
When there is an obvious need or he's desperate, that's when Trader Rick is at his worst. I don't really have a problem with him much and he's done some great drafts, but this reminds of the kicker we traded for a 5th for Vedvik.
Rick on draft day? Very good at manipulating the draft to acquire players... trades right before the season... significant overpays... Vedvik for a 5th... Yannick for a 2nd... Bradford for a 1st and 4th... WTF...

Herndon may turn out to be a solid replacement for Irv until he's healthy, but it's still an overpay. This guy wasn't going to make the Jets roster and we gave up a 4th round pick??? There are fringe roster guys getting traded for 6th and 7th round pick swaps or future 2023 6ths and 7ths...

I mean I would understand if this was Zach Ertz or Evan Engram, but Chris Herndon? He got suckered.

Comp is definitely rich, but we were 14th in waiver claim position, and at least one team, the Giants, might have been in the mix.

But, yeah, gotta think Ertz was a better move.

09-01-2021, 11:41 AM

Guys got some wheels. If he can either become a reasonable replacement for ISJ or (with luck) a TE2 for 12 personnel when ISJ returns, nobody's going to care much about the 50 or so slot drop in the 22 draft.

https://twitter.com/SeanBormanNFL/status...70405?s=20

09-01-2021, 12:40 PM

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09-01-2021, 12:54 PM

Quote: @Wetlander said:

@StickyBun said:

@Wetlander said:
Spielman makes some really head scratching trades sometimes... this is awful.
When there is an obvious need or he's desperate, that's when Trader Rick is at his worst. I don't really have a problem with him much and he's done some great drafts, but this reminds of the kicker we traded for a 5th for Vedvik.
Rick on draft day? Very good at manipulating the draft to acquire players... trades right before the season... significant overpays... Vedvik for a 5th... Yannick for a 2nd... Bradford for a 1st and 4th... WTF...

Herndon may turn out to be a solid replacement for Irv until he's healthy, but it's still an overpay. This guy wasn't going to make the Jets roster and we gave up a 4th round pick??? There are fringe roster guys getting traded for 6th and 7th round pick swaps or future 2023 6ths and 7ths...

I mean I would understand if this was Zach Ertz or Evan Engram, but Chris Herndon? He got suckered.

Yep. I’m a fan of Rick’s overall work too but these Aug/Sept deals have not worked out well for us at all.

Not to mention, we recently gave the Chiefs Mike Hughes for a 6th/7th pick swap! And that was for a former 1st rounder at a more valuable position, who can also return kicks. I’m still scratching my head at that move too.

I know Herndon has some potential but even if he pans out this was an overpay. Oh well. Let’s see how he works out I guess.

09-01-2021, 01:04 PM

Dylan

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4th round picks:

2015: TJ Clemmings (Not active since 2018)

2016: Willie Beavers (Falcons, 2 NFL Games Played)

2017: Jaleel Johnson (Texans), Ben Gedeon (cut 2020)
2018: Jalyn Holmes (on 2021 roster)

2019: Dru Samia (Waived 2021)