Appears that Cousins has gotten the shot

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@StickyBun said:

Been saying pretty much the same thing about climate change for years. It's a pretty good bet that none of us truly understand the data behind climate science.

But if you put it in another context; for example, if 9 mechanics out of 10 tell you your brakes are shot, you better have a pretty good reason to listen to the 1 before putting your family in the car. 

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/funeral-man-died-covid-19-turned-vaccine-testing/story?id=79311556

“Now we’re seeing things completely shift with this delta variant. [Marquis] was 28 years old, had the rest of his life in front of him, and because of COVID-19, specifically this delta variant, and he was not vaccinated, his life was cut short,” Dr. R. Shaun Ferguson, the pastor of Faith Temple Christian Center, told ABC News.  "Our position as a church is let’s get this cut. Let’s do this. I don’t want to see another person lose their life, period," he added.

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@VikingOracle said:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/funeral-man-died-covid-19-turned-vaccine-testing/story?id=79311556

“Now we’re seeing things completely shift with this delta variant. [Marquis] was 28 years old, had the rest of his life in front of him, and because of COVID-19, specifically this delta variant, and he was not vaccinated, his life was cut short,” Dr. R. Shaun Ferguson, the pastor of Faith Temple Christian Center, told ABC News.  "Our position as a church is let’s get this cut. Let’s do this. I don’t want to see another person lose their life, period," he added.

Not discounting the vaccine here,  but his weight more than his age are likely a determining factor in how his body was beat by covid.  They have said all along that obese people need to be more concerned.

that said,  this new variant does sound like young age isnt as big of a break as the first 2 were.

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@Mattyman said:

I googled the founder of mRNA vaccines,  a year ago and found Robert Malone.. 

IMO he's credible.


FWIW according to him, these vaccines aren't working.

It appears they're having a paradoxical effect.

...but, he was a contributor, not the inventor (as some believe)... https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/3aa2eefd

And he hasn't worked in the area for the past 30 years.  It appears Malone (and his wife) are a little miffed that he is not getting any credit for these mRNA vaccines.  From the second logically.ai article I linked to above:

"Malone shared with me a series of emails between his wife, Karikó, and himself. In March of this year, Malone’s wife Dr. Jill Glasspool sent Karikó an article in the New England Journal of Medicine, accusing her of erasing Malone from history. (The article was written by Dr. Angela Desmond and Dr. Paul Offit.) 
Karikó replied that she acknowledges Malone and especially Felgner for their research, and cites them in her papers, even thanking Malone alongside a few others in the acknowledgments section of one. She also said that the first to use mRNA vaccines were a group of French researchers working on influenza in the early 90s, which is when she herself had been working on them. The exchange escalates through to June, with Karikó eventually asking them both to stop sending “threatening letters.” "

  


Is there any salient point or  warning Malone has given about covid and the vaccines that you agree with?


If so, what are they?










 

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@Mattyman said:

@VikingOracle said:

@Zanary said:

@Mattyman said:

I googled the founder of mRNA vaccines,  a year ago and found Robert Malone.. 

IMO he's credible.


FWIW according to him, these vaccines aren't working.

It appears they're having a paradoxical effect.

...but, he was a contributor, not the inventor (as some believe)... https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/3aa2eefd

And he hasn't worked in the area for the past 30 years.  It appears Malone (and his wife) are a little miffed that he is not getting any credit for these mRNA vaccines.  From the second logically.ai article I linked to above:

"Malone shared with me a series of emails between his wife, Karikó, and himself. In March of this year, Malone’s wife Dr. Jill Glasspool sent Karikó an article in the New England Journal of Medicine, accusing her of erasing Malone from history. (The article was written by Dr. Angela Desmond and Dr. Paul Offit.) 
Karikó replied that she acknowledges Malone and especially Felgner for their research, and cites them in her papers, even thanking Malone alongside a few others in the acknowledgments section of one. She also said that the first to use mRNA vaccines were a group of French researchers working on influenza in the early 90s, which is when she herself had been working on them. The exchange escalates through to June, with Karikó eventually asking them both to stop sending “threatening letters.” "

  


Is there any salient point or  warning Malone has given about covid and the vaccines that you agree with?


If so, what are they?

I agree with him that, at this time, children under the age of 13 should not be vaccinated.  I also agree with the fact that anti-inflammatories are indeed used to treat COVID-19 in hospital settings. However, they cannot always alleviate COVID-19 symptoms by themselves.  Now, tell me each salient point or warning Malone has given about Covid that you agree with and why.  Thanks.

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Oh, another thing, Robert Malone and I have another thing in common: we are both vaccinated.

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Is there any salient point or  warning Malone has given about covid and the vaccines that you agree with?


If so, what are they?

I agree with him that, at this time, children under the age of 13 should not be vaccinated. I also agree with the fact that anti-inflammatories are indeed used to treat COVID-19 in hospital settings. However, they cannot always alleviate COVID-19 symptoms by themselves.  Now, tell me each salient point or warning Malone has given about Covid that you agree with and why.  Thanks.

  I agree with  Malone, using a non-sterile vaccine  as not the best option.

  I agree with Malones  that  the vaccines are creating a host  environment that allows for  Antibody Dependent Enhancement.

I also agree with  him  that by measuring the viral load  via blood titers in vaccinated vs. unvaccinated in the coming months  , it  will accurately indicate if/when? ADE is present.


I agree  with him, I am not an anti vaxer.  



I agree with him that an mRNA vaccine has not yet been studied in depth, consequently, "heard immunity"  level is an unknown.


 

I  agree that  anti-virals aren't being accurately reported as a viable treatment. 

\Of all his points this is the one I agree with the most.     Since 2015, I've been taking, taking  Hydro chloroquine, Ivermectin and Zithro max to treat Lyme disease.  

Perhaps you can imagine how the medias narrative  has gone  180 degrees counter to what I have experienced.

Lastly,  I haven't heard Malone say it, specifically, there are over 100?   vaccines, in use, globally.   

I find it unlikely that  ALL 108 will be free of complications. 

 

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  I agree with  Malone, using a non-sterile vaccine  as not the best option.

  I agree with Malones  that  the vaccines are creating a host  environment that allows for  Antibody Dependent Enhancement.

I also agree with  him  that by measuring the viral load  via blood titers in vaccinated vs. unvaccinated in the coming months  , it  will accurately indicate if/when? ADE is present.


I agree  with him, I am not an anti vaxer.  



I agree with him that an mRNA vaccine has not yet been studied in depth, consequently, "heard immunity"  level is an unknown.


 

I  agree that  anti-virals aren't being accurately reported as a viable treatment. 

\Of all his points this is the one I agree with the most.     Since 2015, I've been taking, taking  Hydro chloroquine, Ivermectin and Zithro max to treat Lyme disease.  

Perhaps you can imagine how the medias narrative  has gone  180 degrees counter to what I have experienced.

Lastly,  I haven't heard Malone say it, specifically, there are over 100?   vaccines, in use, globally.   

I find it unlikely that  ALL 108 will be free of complications. 

 

Thanks for your response; I am very sorry you have Lyme disease -- my friend's daughter has it and I realize it can be very debilitating.  Given your personal experiences, I can understand your embrace of anti-virals.  

As for ADE, I do think that concern has fallen by the wayside.  "If COVID-19 vaccines caused ADE, people who are vaccinated against COVID-19 would have more severe disease. This is not happening. On the contrary, people who are vaccinated typically have very mild disease or none at all. In fact, the majority of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. are people who aren't fully vaccinated. In May, fully vaccinated people made up just 0.8% of COVID-19 deaths. That means 99.2% of COVID-19 deaths were in unvaccinated people."  https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/antibody-dependent-enhancement-in-vaccines   See also, https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/covid-19-vaccines-effectively-prevent-severe-disease-havent-shown-signs-of-antibody-dependent-enhancement-as-claimed-by-robert-malone/ ("COVID-19 vaccines haven’t shown signs of antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) in animal studies or vaccinated people. On the contrary, evidence indicates that vaccination reduces the risk of infection and the severity of the disease.");  https://www.reuters.com/article/factchec...SL2N2ND0WS   ("However, this is not accurate. While ADE was a concern initially contemplated by scientists creating COVID-19 vaccines (here), there have been no signs of cases happening during clinical trials or the roll-out (here , here and here).)". 

I truly hope the decisions you have made and will make in the future keep you and your loved one's safe.