Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ Nichelle said:
@ AGRforever - You can keep referring only to slavery if you want to. It didn't end there. The first story mentioned in the video is of 'Bruce's Beach'. When actions of groups such as the KKK didn't shut them down, the government stepped in to take the land. Tell me why this family doesn't deserve the wealth and/or land taken from them.
Bruce's Beach - Wikipedia
Willa and Charles Bruce bought a property in the strand area for $1,225 that was set aside from Henry Willard in 1912, and added on three lots.[1] They established a resort and named it for Mrs. Bruce.[2]
The development included a bathhouse and dining house for Blacks, whose access to public beaches was highly restricted.[3] Aside from the Blacks-only beach resort, Manhattan Beach was "an otherwise lily-white community" and Blacks only had limited access to beaches; Mrs. Bruce's initiative "defiantly transgressed these racial boundaries."[4] As Los Angeles's population increased and property values soared in the 1920s, Black people in the area suffered from increased racial tension, before eminent domain proceedings started by the city forced the club to close down.[1]
While many historians credit George H. Peck (1856–1940), a wealthy developer and the founder of Manhattan Beach, for having "bucked" the practice of racial exclusion,[1] Peck created barriers to direct Black out-of-town visitors to Bruce's Beach. To reach the ocean, visitors had to walk an extra half mile around property owned by Peck, who had lined it with security and “No Trespassing” signs.[6]
Under the pretense of building a city park, the city of Manhattan Beach took control of the land from the Bruce family, and the buildings were razed in 1927.[7][8] In the 1950s, city officials began to worry that family members might sue to regain their land unless it was used for the purpose for which it had been originally taken.[6] In the 1960s, the property, which had been vacant for decades, was made into a city park first called Bayview Terrace Park, then Parque Culiacan.
In 2006, the Manhattan Beach City Council decided to rename the park, "commemorating our community's understanding that friendship, goodwill and respect for all begins within our own boundaries and extends to the world community. All are welcome."[2] The city acknowledging its history of racial discrimination and in March 2007 the beach was ceremoniously renamed Bruce's Beach.[9][10] during an event exhibiting "a deep tide of goodwill".[9][11]
On October 20, 2020, in response to the George Floyd protests highlighting the past racism faced by Bruce's Beach, the city council created the "Bruce’s Beach Task Force", which consisted of 13 members.[12] The task force soon faced opposition from the anonymous group, "Concerned Residents of MB". The anonymous group paid a two-page advertisement on The Beach Reporter, claiming that the task force used racism to "grab power".[13]
On April 20, 2021, the same day that Derek Chauvin was found guilty in the murder of George Floyd, LA County Supervisors voted unanimously to approve returning Bruce's Beach to the family's descendants. The property to be returned was estimated to be worth $75 million at the time. "If the plan is approved, the county will have 60 days to create a timeline for the land transfer and determine whether or not the lifeguard station [located on the property] will have to move" (CBSLA Staff).[14]
On June 2, 2021, the California State Senate approved a bill to return the property to descendants of the Bruces.[15][16]
And my family participated in none of that. There are zero dollars in my pocket as a result of any of that.
Talk to the families that did.
Reperations is a hill I’ll die on.
But you had systemic benefits from not being one of “them”, loans, schools or just driving down the road. Being ingnorent is not the same as not benifiting.
Quote: @Nichelle said:
@AGRforever - You can keep referring only to slavery if you want to. It didn't end there. The first story mentioned in the video is of 'Bruce's Beach'. When actions of groups such as the KKK didn't shut them down, the government stepped in to take the land. Tell me why this family doesn't deserve the wealth and/or land taken from them.
Bruce's Beach - Wikipedia
Willa and Charles Bruce bought a property in the strand area for $1,225 that was set aside from Henry Willard in 1912, and added on three lots.[1] They established a resort and named it for Mrs. Bruce.[2]
The development included a bathhouse and dining house for Blacks, whose access to public beaches was highly restricted.[3] Aside from the Blacks-only beach resort, Manhattan Beach was "an otherwise lily-white community" and Blacks only had limited access to beaches; Mrs. Bruce's initiative "defiantly transgressed these racial boundaries."[4] As Los Angeles's population increased and property values soared in the 1920s, Black people in the area suffered from increased racial tension, before eminent domain proceedings started by the city forced the club to close down.[1]
While many historians credit George H. Peck (1856–1940), a wealthy developer and the founder of Manhattan Beach, for having "bucked" the practice of racial exclusion,[1] Peck created barriers to direct Black out-of-town visitors to Bruce's Beach. To reach the ocean, visitors had to walk an extra half mile around property owned by Peck, who had lined it with security and “No Trespassing” signs.[6]
Under the pretense of building a city park, the city of Manhattan Beach took control of the land from the Bruce family, and the buildings were razed in 1927.[7][8] In the 1950s, city officials began to worry that family members might sue to regain their land unless it was used for the purpose for which it had been originally taken.[6] In the 1960s, the property, which had been vacant for decades, was made into a city park first called Bayview Terrace Park, then Parque Culiacan.
In 2006, the Manhattan Beach City Council decided to rename the park, "commemorating our community's understanding that friendship, goodwill and respect for all begins within our own boundaries and extends to the world community. All are welcome."[2] The city acknowledging its history of racial discrimination and in March 2007 the beach was ceremoniously renamed Bruce's Beach.[9][10] during an event exhibiting "a deep tide of goodwill".[9][11]
On October 20, 2020, in response to the George Floyd protests highlighting the past racism faced by Bruce's Beach, the city council created the "Bruce’s Beach Task Force", which consisted of 13 members.[12] The task force soon faced opposition from the anonymous group, "Concerned Residents of MB". The anonymous group paid a two-page advertisement on The Beach Reporter, claiming that the task force used racism to "grab power".[13]
On April 20, 2021, the same day that Derek Chauvin was found guilty in the murder of George Floyd, LA County Supervisors voted unanimously to approve returning Bruce's Beach to the family's descendants. The property to be returned was estimated to be worth $75 million at the time. "If the plan is approved, the county will have 60 days to create a timeline for the land transfer and determine whether or not the lifeguard station [located on the property] will have to move" (CBSLA Staff).[14]
On June 2, 2021, the California State Senate approved a bill to return the property to descendants of the Bruces.[15][16]
Why wasn't it returned to the native American tribe it was originally stole from? If the goal is to right wrongs, why stop at the most recent violation? Let's take this shit back and send all the black back to Africa, the whites to Europe, Hispanics and Asians back to their places of origin and really reset land and resource ownership?
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Nichelle said:
@ ede advertisement on The Beach Reporter, claiming that the task force used racism to "grab power".[13]
On April 20, 2021, the same day that Derek Chauvin was found guilty in the murder of George Floyd, LA County Supervisors voted unanimously to approve returning Bruce's Beach to the family's descendants. The property to be returned was estimated to be worth $75 million at the time. "If the plan is approved, the county will have 60 days to create a timeline for the land transfer and determine whether or not the lifeguard station [located on the property] will have to move" (CBSLA Staff).[14]
On June 2, 2021, the California State Senate approved a bill to return the property to descendants of the Bruces.[15][16]
And my family participated in none of that. There are zero dollars in my pocket as a result of any of that.
Talk to the families that did.
Reperations is a hill I’ll die on.
But you had systemic benefits from not being one of “them”, loans, schools or just driving down the road. Being ingnorent is not the same as not benifiting.
So says you. Credit applications dont ask the color of your skin. Schools are gpa and enterance exam based for white people. Black people actually get in to schools using affirmative action making it easier then other races. You want to talk about races getting the shaft on school…talk to the Asians.
We’ve gone down the crime road before.
There is no ignorance here. Life is hard. Life sucks. All kinds of our ancestors were dealt shit hands. I’m not paying “them” (your word not mine) based on sins of people unrelated to me and long ago dead.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Nichelle said:
Why wasn't it returned to the native American tribe it was originally stole from? If the goal is to right wrongs, why stop at the most recent violation? Let's take this shit back and send all the black back to Africa, the whites to Europe, Hispanics and Asians back to their places of origin and really reset land and resource ownership?
Because Native Americans dont make up a large enough voting block to require pandering to them.
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