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Trump now wants to defund the US Post Office
#81
Dear AGR:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/never-seen-anything-postal-workers-232711899.html

Five days a week, Lori Cash leaves her house when it's still dark out to get to her job at the Depew Post Office in upstate New York.
Cash, a 22-year veteran of the U.S. Postal Service, is responsible for opening post office doors and greeting the waiting delivery trucks at 2:30 a.m.
These days, her early morning work schedule isn't what's causing her to lose sleep, she said. Instead, Cash is troubled by the dramatic changes she has witnessed at the Postal Service, which she said are forcing unprecedented delays in mail delivery.
"In all the years that I've been with the Postal Service, I've seen many changes. I've seen changes in operation. I've seen changes in delivery standards. But I've never seen any mail delay," said Cash, president of the American Postal Workers Union Western New York Area Local 183.
"That has always been our cardinal rule, is to not delay the mail. So to have someone come in and all of a sudden tell us we're not going to deliver all the mail every day is a complete change in the culture that we were taught from day one," she said. "I've never seen anything like it."
Related: During his testimony, Postmaster General Louis DeJoy is likely to be asked about why he banned overtime work and extra routes taken by postal carriers to deliver the mail on time. 
Cash and other postal workers say there have been concerning and potentially catastrophic changes in mail delivery since Louis DeJoy took over as postmaster general in June.
In his two months on the job, DeJoy — a longtime Republican donor and ally of President Donald Trump's who held no positions in the Postal Service before his appointment — has overseen major operational changes that he said are aimed at cutting costs and increasing efficiency.
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Among the changes: elimination of overtime and instructions to postal workers to set out on their routes even if it means mail arriving later is left behind at distribution centers.
According to postal workers who spoke with NBC News, the changes have upended the mail delivery system and significantly delayed the delivery of items, including express mail.
"If the mail doesn't make it to the dock, it doesn't get on the truck," said Daleo Freeman, president of the American Postal Workers union in Cleveland, who joined the post office ranks in 1994. "So we've had mail that has been left in the plants. Then they get it on the truck the next day. "
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Michael Cinelli, a driver for the Postal Service in Long Island, New York, has seen similar delays.
"The way they're stopping it, the mail's just not making it to transportation," said Cinelli, who is a shop steward for the union. "It's just staying where it is. It comes in and it just does not make it."
Cash said a significant number of express mail items, which the post office promises customers will be delivered by noon the next day, aren't arriving on time as a direct result of the new mandates.
Freeman said he isn't certain what the motive for the delays is.
"Maybe it's because of the mail-in balloting. Or maybe it's because [DeJoy is] trying to make sure that they continue on their path to try to privatize the people's post office," Freeman said. "The proof is in the pudding. That's what's I've been telling people. And his actions are speaking."
Cash said she is extremely disheartened to see the number of longtime customers coming to her post office asking where checks and other valuable pieces of mail are.
"We have many more inquiries at the window of customers looking for their packages, wondering why it's taking so long for a package to get just a state or two away, wondering why they're mailing letters or mailing their bills and they're getting there a lot later than they used to get there," she said.
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The postal workers NBC News spoke with insist that if the operations hadn't been overhauled this summer, handling mail-in ballots wouldn't be a problem this fall.
"We process more than a billion holiday cards every year," Cash said. "So if we can get those holiday cards through every year and almost all of them are delivered on time, we can handle the election ballots. The problem we're going to have is, you know, Postmaster DeJoy obviously is on this track to make changes right up to the election. So can we handle it? Yes. Is he trying to stop us from handling it? Yes."
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The postal workers say that, beyond the election, they are most concerned about what the erosion of the Postal Service could do to Americans in rural communities who rely on it heavily for critical deliveries, from mail orders to medications.
"I think everyone is feeling the pain of, you know, why are we doing this? Why are we cutting service? And why are we causing such turmoil to our customers?" Cash said. "Everybody is fundamentally watching the beginning of the dismantling of the Postal Service."
Freeman said he hopes postal workers will be given the resources to best perform the duties they take so seriously.
"We want to just do our jobs to the best of our ability and be given the resources to do that," he said.
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#82
It is the Postal SERVICE not Postal BUSINESS

The US military operates the same way. No compliants there when they ask for 1/2 a Trillion from US tax payers

but hey, grifters gotta grift, scum need the swamp
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#83
Quote: @Skodin said:
It is the Postal SERVICE not Postal BUSINESS

The US military operates the same way. No compliants there when they ask for 1/2 a Trillion from US tax payers

but hey, grifters gotta grift, scum need the swamp
Nor is there any complain when they take money the military asked for (which they did not complain about) to build a wall - that Mexico was supposed to pay for. The Post Office was never created as a "for profit" business
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#84
OH NO what ever will we do???  The piece of mail that didn't get to its distribution center by the cutoff time got delayed until tomorrow?  Someone call the President this is a national emergency!!!!!

Here's the math:

2.8 BILLION pieces of mail each week. 
130 Million ballots if we all voted by mail.  Assumes no one votes in person.
We get mail 6 days a week. 
4 weeks to mail your ballot in?  Whatever number you want to use to send in ballots. I used TN's early voting time frame?
600,000 carrier routes216 ballots per route for the entire election
9 ballots per day per route
UNDER 10 Ballots per day per route.  Do you think Cliff Calvin will be able to handle the extra load in his mail bag?  You guys took the hook, line, sinker, fishing pole, boat, trailer, truck and garage on this one. 

I'm voting for Jo Jorgensen for President so give that Trump fluffer shit a break.

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#85
Quote: @AGRforever said:
OH NO what ever will we do???  The piece of mail that didn't get to its distribution center by the cutoff time got delayed until tomorrow?  Someone call the President this is a national emergency!!!!!

Here's the math:

2.8 BILLION pieces of mail each week. 
130 Million ballots if we all voted by mail.  Assumes no one votes in person.
We get mail 6 days a week. 
4 weeks to mail your ballot in?  Whatever number you want to use to send in ballots. I used TN's early voting time frame?
600,000 carrier routes216 ballots per route for the entire election
9 ballots per day per route
UNDER 10 Ballots per day per route.  Do you think Cliff Calvin will be able to handle the extra load in his mail bag?  You guys took the hook, line, sinker, fishing pole, boat, trailer, truck and garage on this one. 

I'm voting for Jo Jorgensen for President so give that Trump fluffer shit a break.

There’s dozens of articles I can post that talk about WEEKS OF DELAYS, not just a day.  

AND AGAIN, why do you support cutbacks and dismantling critical sorting machines right before an election during a pandemic??  Why is it ok for them to start shutting dropboxes all over Portland and Eugene, for ing people to drive to the nearest post office?  Why are you turning a blind eye to Trump proclaiming he is deliberately sabotaging the USPS to tilt the election in his favor?  

Are you suggesting you wouldn’t care if a Democrat tried to sabotage the mail to throw an election?


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#86
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
AND AGAIN, why do you support cutbacks and dismantling critical sorting machines right before an election during a pandemic??  
I’m not AGR, but I must interject:

Just think of the cutbacks/dismantling as a
Kung-flu “lockdown”.  

You know, the lockdowns the rest of us had to endure, because science.

Have the USPS apply for PPP and PUA funds!  Problem solved!
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#87
The House made a second attempt to pass funding for the post office and the Senate sat on it. Brand new sorting machines are being thrown out. Some left in the rain and ruined. Some torn apart and others put in dumpsters. Why? Why is brand new equipment being destroyed? There is also Postmaster General DeJoy's conflicts of interest. He has a stake  in XPO Logistics, a United States Postal Service contractor. He also has stock options in Amazon. Small businesses depend on the post office as well as seniors and veterans.
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#88
Quote: @Vikergirl said:
The House made a second attempt to pass funding for the post office and the Senate sat on it. Brand new sorting machines are being thrown out. Some left in the rain and ruined. Some torn apart and others put in dumpsters. Why? Why is brand new equipment being destroyed? There is also Postmaster General DeJoy's conflicts of interest. He has a stake  in XPO Logistics, a United States Postal Service contractor. He also has stock options in Amazon. Small businesses depend on the post office as well as seniors and veterans.
Million dollar question for GOP backers:


If the goal of the post office is to reduce costs such as labor, does throwing away sorting machines make the post office run more efficient, vs having postal workers sort all the mail by hand?

I refuse to believe anyone is that stupid, let alone a successful millionaire with a logistics business.  


Now that we can all agree that throwing out sorting machines and making the post office run even less efficient is utter bullshit (and if you don’t agree, go seek help), why are you okay with Trump’s lapdog postmaster general purposely sabotaging the post office?   
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#89
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@Vikergirl said:
The House made a second attempt to pass funding for the post office and the Senate sat on it. Brand new sorting machines are being thrown out. Some left in the rain and ruined. Some torn apart and others put in dumpsters. Why? Why is brand new equipment being destroyed? There is also Postmaster General DeJoy's conflicts of interest. He has a stake  in XPO Logistics, a United States Postal Service contractor. He also has stock options in Amazon. Small businesses depend on the post office as well as seniors and veterans.
Million dollar question for GOP backers:


If the goal of the post office is to reduce costs such as labor, does throwing away sorting machines make the post office run more efficient, vs having postal workers sort all the mail by hand?

I refuse to believe anyone is that stupid, let alone a successful millionaire with a logistics business.  


Now that we can all agree that throwing out sorting machines and making the post office run even less efficient is utter bullshit (and if you don’t agree, go seek help), why are you okay with Trump’s lapdog postmaster general purposely sabotaging the post office?   
Crickets . . . Just like the Senate Intel report . . .

Outside of the conspiracy theorists, there is no “explaining”, “justifying” this blatant spitting on democratic American values.

Shameless Pam Bondi speaking of allegations of Hunter Biden while being corrupt with illegal campaign contributions (when not deciding to sue Trump U) and being a registered foreign agent for the country of Qatar.  Same Qatar who bailed our human ghoul Kushner.  These people are disgusting and they think the rubes are dumb enough to believe them.

Just fucking silence.  When shit goes south, remember your silence, it makes you complicit
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