Quote: @greediron said:
will just leave with thishttps://www.mikewittmann.com/10-reasons-why-i-refuse-to-wear-a-mask/
#1 is good enough for me. If you need more, have at it.
How do you feel about abortion then? If your face belongs to you, then her vagina and what's inside belongs to her, correct?
Quote: @greediron said:
will just leave with thishttps://www.mikewittmann.com/10-reasons-why-i-refuse-to-wear-a-mask/
#1 is good enough for me. If you need more, have at it.
Ridiculous. Why not just admit that you don't give a shit about anyone else? At least that would be closer to the truth.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ greediron said:
will just leave with thishttps://www.mikewittmann.com/10-reasons-why-i-refuse-to-wear-a-mask/
#1 is good enough for me. If you need more, have at it.
How do you feel about abortion then? If your face belongs to you, then her vagina and what's inside belongs to her, correct?
except for that other person living there, yes. That little being has rights as well.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ greediron said:
will just leave with thishttps://www.mikewittmann.com/10-reasons-why-i-refuse-to-wear-a-mask/
#1 is good enough for me. If you need more, have at it.
Ridiculous. Why not just admit that you don't give a shit about anyone else? At least that would be closer to the truth.
no more ridiculous than your comment. Pretty obvious your shit is all you give.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ greediron said:
will just leave with thishttps://www.mikewittmann.com/10-reasons-why-i-refuse-to-wear-a-mask/
#1 is good enough for me. If you need more, have at it.
How do you feel about abortion then? If your face belongs to you, then her vagina and what's inside belongs to her, correct?
except for that other person living there, yes. That little being has rights as well.
Did you support the pregnant mothers receiving a stimulus check for their child as well? Do you support the increase in health care access, maternity leave, and food services for the single mothers who have these sacred children?
Skodin with the flat one note. Give him credit for trying, but not much.
Quote: @greediron said:
Skodin with the flat one note. Give him credit for trying, but not much.
Answer the question, did you? Do you?
Because if you don’t, you exhibit cognitive dissonance and some would say you are straight up hypocrite.
So, answer the question?
Quote: @greediron said:
@ VikingOracle said:
@ greediron said:
Funny thing about science...
Facts don't care about your intent.
Funny thing about science, truth ultimately wins out. Now, I know you rely on one article that the authors (all of them) assert should be read as a push for more masking. In contrast, I rely on the plethora of studies that say masks should be used as one of the tools against the virus. I include the Wall Street Journal article because I thought that might be influential in your sphere.
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/06/stanford-scientists-contribute-to-who-mask-guidelines.html:
1. How do cloth face coverings prevent the spread of COVID-19? Chu: In order to answer this, it’s first important to understand the concept of source control. We’ve learned that as many as 40% of people infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 may have no symptoms. But when they talk, cough or sneeze, they can still spread the virus to others in the form of respiratory droplets expelled into the air. Those droplets evaporate into fine particles that may linger. The mask traps these larger droplets before they can evaporate. So, wearing a mask regularly can prevent spreading at the source even when we don’t know we are sick. But masks are just one important way to prevent this disease from spreading. Washing your hands regularly and thoroughly and keeping at least 6 feet apart from one another are still vitally important.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768533:
Universal masking at MGB was associated with a significantly lower rate of SARS-CoV-2 positivity among HCWs.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/face-masks-really-do-matter-the-scientific-evidence-is-growing-11595083298:
Face masks are emerging as one of the most powerful weapons to fight the new coronavirus, with growing evidence that facial coverings help prevent transmission—even if an infected wearer is in close contact with others.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-17922-x:
Here, we demonstrate that the use of face masks among the general public is an effective strategy in mitigating transmission of SARS-CoV-2 under a range of scenarios. Nonmedical masks, when deployed widely, can also reduce total cases and deaths.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/08/200811152916.htm:
"If everyone wore a mask, we could stop up to 99% of these droplets before they reach someone else," Westman said. "In the absence of a vaccine or antiviral medicine, it's the one proven way to protect others as well as yourself."
https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/science-and-psychology-behind-masking-prevent-spread-covid-19
Mounting scientific research shows that widespread wearing of masks, along with practicing social distancing and frequent hand-washing, would greatly reduce community transmission of the virus.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm
Previous studies show that both surgical masks and homemade cloth face coverings can reduce the aerosolization of virus into the air and onto surfaces ( 4, 5). Although no studies have examined SARS-CoV-2 transmission directly, data from previous epidemics ( 6, 7) support the use of universal face coverings as a policy to reduce the spread of SARS-CoV-2, as does observational data for COVID-19 in an analysis of 194 countries that found a negative association between duration of a face mask or respirator policy and per-capita coronavirus-related mortality; in countries that did not recommend face masks and respirators, the per-capita coronavirus-related mortality increased each week by 54.3% after the index case, compared with 8.0% in those countries with masking policies (CT Leffler, Virginia Commonwealth University, unpublished data, 2020).
If you think it is one article alone, then you haven't been paying
attention. I could pull up 10+ out of my recent history that show masks
don't stop a minute virus, that some mask actually arosolize breath
into smaller droplets that stay airborne longer, that masks are causing
multiple health issues in the wearers, how devastating it is on people,
especially kids, how the elderly are being muted because they can't hear
well anyway. You wanna protect grandma, give her a voice, give her
family back.
You could look at countries that are mask wearers
and see the "cases" are still rising. While countries that didn't
follow the WHO are finding herd immunity.
And
no science or internet articles will show how poorly the general
populace wears a mask. Constantly touching, reaching inside to pull it
down, repeatedly grasping the mask to pull it looser because the wearer
is being suffocated, all while wearing gloves and handling food. Mask
wearing is going to make us all sick. I don't feel safe around people
that think crap science and propaganda will protect them while they are
disgusting and practice poor hygiene.
But the concrete minds are all mixed up and firmly set, so why bother.
So if you go in for open heart surgery, you don’t want any of the doctors or nurses to wear masks during the operation?
Just when I thought you were already at rock bottom, you amaze us all with a new level of cringe-worthy facepalming.
Quote: @Skodin said:
@ greediron said:
Skodin with the flat one note. Give him credit for trying, but not much.
Answer the question, did you? Do you?
Because if you don’t, you exhibit cognitive dissonance and some would say you are straight up hypocrite.
So, answer the question?
Nah, gotta give you something to hang onto.
Quote: @greediron said:
#1 is good enough for me. If you need more, have at it.
Hi Greed: I hope you haven't taken anything I have posted as a personal attack, I don't mean it as one. I am interested in understanding your thought pattern here. For instance, do you believe people have the right to refuse immunization? Do you believe people have the right to refuse to wear clothing? Again, I am not trying to be a smart ass, I am truly interested in where people draw the line as to where personal freedom trumps societal requirements.
Quick story. I am old enough to recall when a seat belt law was first considered in my home state. I grew up in New Hampshire (Live Free or Die state). I can remember the huge uproar over this. One day my best friend's brother was in a car accident (as a passenger) and he was not wearing his seatbelt. He went through the front window and lived. The driver was wearing a seat belt and she died. A group of people harassed my friend's brothers for weeks (while he was in the hospital) to make him a poster boy of why people should be able to decide whether they want to wear a seat belt or not. Now NHTSA estimates that between 1975 and 2010 seat belt usage saved society $1.6 trillion in medical care, lost productivity, and other injury related economic costs. So, do you believe that seat belt laws should be repealed?
Again, I am always curious as to where libertarians (which I assume you are) draw the line.
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