Ventilator OEMs are blocking service manuals, PDF sharing over the internet:
Quote: @BlackMagic7 said:
Ventilator OEMs are blocking service manuals, PDF sharing over the internet:
might have something to do with liability? ( i didnt watch much of the video )
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
Might have to rethink my move to Charlotte.
Is that the local meat packing plant? Such a lovely part of the country too.
Maybe its time for Darwinism to assert him or herself even more than it's already doing?
I get peoples frustrations, fears...But holy son of god.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Vikergirl said:
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19
not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?
I dont really have an opinion on the guy one way or another. But Something I think people continually miss whether it be things Fauci or "fill in the blank politician" say. Or a model shows, is that we arent talking about a static topic, its a biological life form that has countless variables impacting its growth. The point of social distancing, obsessive hand washing, sheltering in place, shutting down gatherings and so on was to do the very thing people are shitting on these models and experts for being "wrong about".If the deaths and cases are ending up fewer than thought 2,3,4 weeks ago thats what we wanted from the precautions, right? So then the precautions to varying degrees are working, right?
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ kmillard said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Vikergirl said:
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19
not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?
Well I believe the treating of the whole country like NYC is silly. Common sense says certain areas based on population and location can open up just fine and others will be in smaller increments. Funny how Sweden and others were able to not have issues just using good practices in public without shutting down.
totally different society than the selfish society we have, IMO that allowed for them to handle it differently than what was a best approach for the US. Also I would guess that underlying health issues are greater here in the US than in Sweden so they were less likely to really get hit as hard as we will. its really hard to compare apples to apples on this thing when they dont even understand the ramification of the variable from a health or society aspect yet.
time will tell, i dont think there is a model response yet from any affected area.
Nailed it. Wish more people understood this. I live in a larger metro area in Iowa. Small by any measure of truly large metro areas nationwide, but larger than Iowa average. I have family that are farmers who live in remote northwest Iowa who are convinced this is a hoax because there are no cases in their county.
They have known me my entire life, know I have no political affiliation, know what my work ethic and beliefs have been for my field the last 20 years I've been in it. Never hesitated to ask my opinion on the state of mental healthcare in the state/country. Always hit me up when they needed suggestions or referrals for services. And now suddenly they think I am "fake news" because their current reality with no cases, differs greatly from mine and loved ones I have working in healthcare in NYC.
The models assumed social distancing and proper hygiene practices already.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ kmillard said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Vikergirl said:
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19
not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?
Well I believe the treating of the whole country like NYC is silly.
I think they recognize that and we'll see differences depending on demography. At least I hope so.
What they do in Jimmys part of the world in South Dakota (which never issued a SAH order) will look vastly different than NYS or even MN.
This also quickly leads into a discussion of Governors vs Feds and who has the final say on how and when.
Even big states governed by Cuomo and Newsome may do things radically different from each other.
even in regions of states, what would have been best in SFalls, wouldnt have made sense in other places necessarily. even the timing of the stay at home orders. a nation wide blanket order would have been futile and useless based on the spread, just as a nationwide reopening would be equally ignorant as we are all at different stages with this thing in terms of herd exposure and any developed immunity.
I am really hoping this pin prick test for immunity is able to be mass produced rapidly so that we can start clearing parts of the country and especially certain industries to get the economy starting to roll again. I dont agree with the sentiment of the the president that this economy is going to come roaring back, if we reopen the country cautiously and smart it will result in a slow restart, but it will be the smartest way to do it until more is known or we will be back to quarantining in a matter of a few months.
hell, Smithfield Meat Packing Plant should have had it's own set of rules, let alone a county.
oh, by the way... pop quiz.... who owns smithfield foods?
let the conspiracy theories fly now!
the chinese of course.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ BlackMagic7 said:
Ventilator OEMs are blocking service manuals, PDF sharing over the internet:
might have something to do with liability? ( i didnt watch much of the video ) It has more to do with the equipment manufactures making their equipment non-serviceable and bounding users to licensing agreements / terms of service that explicitly state repairs are to be done by (generally non-existent,) "authorized" repair channels.
When ventilators go down, do we want the ingenuity of the Italians that 3d printed ventilator valves to get machines up and running as fast as those valves could be installed (perhaps using accessible services manuals) or … do we want people to die next to post it notes on machines until the manufacture can get to the machine call you back to schedule "service?"
Quote: @bigbone62 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Vikergirl said:
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1250095233632808961?s=19
not making a political statement here, but its funny how this guys is like teflon... he has made a lot of statements that in hindsight have proven to be inaccurate. he is our leading expert and has been proven wrong by this thing as much as he's been right. its no wonder the country is turned on itself when even the experts are wrong more than a weather man. what are we all to believe?
I dont really have an opinion on the guy one way or another. But Something I think people continually miss whether it be things Fauci or "fill in the blank politician" say. Or a model shows, is that we arent talking about a static topic, its a biological life form that has countless variables impacting its growth. The point of social distancing, obsessive hand washing, sheltering in place, shutting down gatherings and so on was to do the very thing people are shitting on these models and experts for being "wrong about".If the deaths and cases are ending up fewer than thought 2,3,4 weeks ago thats what we wanted from the precautions, right? So then the precautions to varying degrees are working, right?
i dont care about dates and numbers, thats all a guessing game based on variable that nobody can predict. I am talking about his statements about transfer and who should quarantine vs who would be fine to go on spring vacations and cruises and shit. we were all talking about this thing by mid March and he was still telling the media it was ok for healthy people to go on cruises. He is a very smart man, but I think his role has him a little out of his element at times and its reflected in what he has said.
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