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@ purplefaithful said:
Something tells me when all of the true story comes out of China, we're going to be shaking our heads in amazement, despair, disbelief and anger.
And Trump holds them responsible for their actions, because he is a real president!! Wipes out our debt with them and goes down as the greatest president in American History and completely wiping out Obuma's legacy!!! I Love It !!!!
You know the rules of the Longship Bob, no politics. you want to play that game you know where it belongs.
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https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2020/04/07/javits-center-and-usns-comfort-have-a-combined-110-patients-1273409
Javits Center and USNS Comfort have a combined 110 patientsBy ERIN DURKIN
04/07/2020 04:46 PM EDT
NEW YORK — The military-run hospitals at the Javits Center and onboard the USNS Comfort remain mostly empty — so far treating only 110 patients between them, Pentagon officials said Tuesday.
Both facilities were established in New York after Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio begged for federal support last month to manage the spiraling outbreak of the coronavirus, but they have been hampered by logistical and communication constraints, officials said. Javits, the sprawling convention center on the West Side of Manhattan, has a capacity for 2,500 people but so far has 66 patients. The Comfort, the Navy hospital ship docked in the Hudson River, has 44 patients out of a capacity for 500.
So the Stay at home orders have really made an impact in curbing the virus. I would prefer my governor over prepare and then not need the resources. I am sure if the virus hits another State hard then NY will be sending their resources. States like Washington, Oregon sent some extra supplies/vents to NY in a show of unity and now those resources can be sourced where needed most. It is wonderful to see the "United States" of American work together as one.
I heard today that many NYC deaths could have been avoided if the mayor and governor acted sooner.
Is that a revelation? I mean, isn't it obvious that deaths could have been avoided if every mayor in every city and every governor in every state acted sooner?
It's looking like CA and maybe Washington State are the best in class examples so far...I say that with trepidation with my kid in LA.
Yep, some did better than others. But there isn't a single leader in the country (or the world) that doesn't wish they had acted sooner. Whether they admit it or not is another story.
Yes, I agree with this.
I also think WHO and China hold blame for at a minimum not being honest earlier - sending mixed signals - which the federal, state, and local leaders relied on.
What we don’t need is the blame game, especially for political advantage.
All leaders should study the mistakes and safeguard us in the future.
The WHO is what pisses me off the most in this deal. they are supposed to be a non political entity that puts the health of all people ahead of everything else...politics be damned, consequences be damned, and for them to withhold the truth from the rest of the world... that is inexcusable IMO. I am all for killing their funding unless that organization can show some serious changes internally in both people and practice.
I never for a second thought that China should be trusted in their reportings... I mean hello, we grew up in the heart of the cold war and read all the bull shit that the communist party run news agencies spewed.
I thought that also, but as we step out of leadership roles the vacuum be will filled. The current WHO president, an elected official was not the candidate we supported, we supported a British candidate. It's not a nationalist organization.
I was not aware of this.... i cant tell you how many times I have read stuff on this virus and my resulting reaction is a heavy sigh and a head shake.
I just listened to an explanation of what went down with the WHO parroting the early Chinese position that it was not transmitted person to person in December. That was statement put out by the Leadership not vetted, more a statement that we are not gonna look into it till we are asked.
This whole blame the Chinese or WHO is just passing the buck. Yes they lied or told half truths. How come other countries were able to adjust and react to it better than the US even though the US had a late start?
Damage control, deflection game on by the Potus...
That said, the WHO and Chinese need to be investigated. There needs to be understanding of events similar to what we did after 911. Both of ourselves and external world partners too.
? Come on man....
I think this thread on the main page has run its course when nobody is trying to adhere to the board rules. when some of the primary thread contributors have devolved to political bickering it appears that is where they want to take this thread? I read that as an overwhelming vote to just move it to the ST board so you all can continue the shit fest in there?
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LOL You aren’t paying attention. The curve flattened. More deaths today are from the cases two weeks ago. There is a lag in deaths. In two or three weeks the deaths should go down. Per Fauci.
You somehow think saying gibberish, propaganda and showing how brainwashed you are is paying attention. Anyway, I digress. The curve has not flattened.
And since you like to practice selective reading... I asked how we got to a point where 700+ people dying was ok. Care to explain that? How grossly unprepared we were. Your response ofcourse is what I expected. Rationalizing the deaths. Please tell us how that is acceptable.
Since we are at it help me "wise one" explain why 3 plus months into this our testing efforts are grossly lagging behind? Let me guess it's someone else's fault.
Who has said 700 deaths is OK? Nobody is rationalizing deaths, you are trying to push a fight when there isnt one there. What A1 is saying is what the experts are saying. no fight to be had on this point, if you want to get into a pissing match over politics, partys and people we have a different forum for that... although personal attacks arent allowed in there either.
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I think this thread on the main page has run its course when nobody is trying to adhere to the board rules. when some of the primary thread contributors have devolved to political bickering it appears that is where they want to take this thread? I read that as an overwhelming vote to just move it to the ST board so you all can continue the shit fest in there?
I think it would be more prudent to remove the few repeat offenders rather than punish those who for the most part have abided by the rules.
I'll be better lol!
gotta be the holy weekend coming out...We celebrate Easter and Passover this week.
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