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OT: Coronavirus
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
I hope this cant be made political... I really really hope-  I actually like this move on a number of fronts.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/some-walmart-costco-target-stores-barred-from-selling-nonessential-items/ar-BB12k907?li=BBnb7Kz
  
1.  It will make it easier for those stores to keep the areas shopped more clean by allowing them to concentrate their sanitizing efforts to less square footage.

2. It will cut down on the number of people in those stores because you can only look at produce and the meat aisle for so long.

3. It will encourage shoppers to just hit the local store instead of going across town to the big box since they cant really get much more than the necessities at either location.
What a joke.

I went to walmart yesterday and they were counting the customers. 

I asked the guy in the way out and he said they are basing it on square footage.  The store has 200 customers at the time - it was being allowed 980.  

Nice to have a bigger store. 
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Quote: @Wetlander said:
I think articles talking directly about the virus, treatment, etc. are fine.  

So can we keep this thread loose and fun, but informative and avoid posting stuff that gets people's undies in a bunch?  Seems simple, right?  We can all do that, right?
I agree with these two statements for this thread. But let's try to keep the articles we post from respected news sources who are held to basic standards of objectivity. And not opinion pieces from conspiracy websites...seen plenty of those in the last few days. 
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
This is surely to make our global neighbors happy with uncle sam...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-to-seize-exports-of-masks-and-gloves-amid-coronavirus-crisis/ar-BB12kWru?

on one hand its our Govts job to use its power to help the people of the US first and foremost,  but this could certainly bite us in the ass if we are denying something to a country that is in a position to help us with something else virus related.... wait and see I guess.
I am a patriot and my take on the world and our role in the world is the polar opposite of Nationalism.

That said, this seems prudent to me. What we dont need? When we dont need it? We need to help the world with it.

Case in point will be Africa. Boy will they need help  Confused

OTOH you have examples like China's 1000 ventilators to NYS (or NYC). But China didnt send those until they knew they weren't going to need them either I'm sure. 




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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@Wetlander said:
I think articles talking directly about the virus, treatment, etc. are fine.  

So can we keep this thread loose and fun, but informative and avoid posting stuff that gets people's undies in a bunch?  Seems simple, right?  We can all do that, right?
I agree with these two statements for this thread. But let's try to keep the articles we post from respected news sources who are held to basic standards of objectivity. And not opinion pieces from conspiracy websites...seen plenty of those in the last few days. 
respected by who... how about we just exercise some judgement on what is actually virus related and what is something that is being shared to score political points?
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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@Wetlander said:
I think articles talking directly about the virus, treatment, etc. are fine.  

So can we keep this thread loose and fun, but informative and avoid posting stuff that gets people's undies in a bunch?  Seems simple, right?  We can all do that, right?
I agree with these two statements for this thread. But let's try to keep the articles we post from respected news sources who are held to basic standards of objectivity. And not opinion pieces from conspiracy websites...seen plenty of those in the last few days. 
I used to have a lot of respect for network news, CBS, ABC, NBC, but they have all been caught in lie after lie after lie. There are many news sources such as these that are respected by many and not trusted at all by just as many. I don't respect or trust any of them anymore. It seems they ALL have a political agenda.
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The only reason I brought up the church thing was an attack at the dumb stimulus package, the overwhelmed SBA and an example of obvious bad ideas that we all can agree on, being that egregious.   

The only people who should have got a bailout were Americans and American small business period.  Fuck the Cheescake Factory, give that money to people who need it.

All this ridicule of middle Americans not having a savings, while shitty corps are begging at the trough after a bad couple of weeks is a disgrace.

Americans need that money, small business owners need that money, the banks and large corps can wait.  That was all about empowering corps to pick up the bones when this is done and reassert a stronger position.
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Move thread to other forum and let them discuss (first option)  Ban (second, only in rare cases)
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Gov. Tim Walz extends Minnesota's stay-at-home order to May 4Schools, bars and restaurants to remain closed.
By  Jeremy Olson and Glenn Howatt Star TribuneApril 8, 2020 — 4:35

Gov. Tim Walz is extending a statewide stay-at-home order to May 4 as part of an effort to reduce or delay the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic in Minnesota.“We bought the time we needed,” Walz said at an afternoon news conference. “It can all go sideways very quickly if we don’t continue.”
Walz said he extended the order based on guidance from federal health officials, the experience of other states that took early action and saw good results, as well as modeling done by state and University of Minnesota researchers.
By extending the stay-at-home order, Minnesota’s peak COVID-19 caseload should get pushed back to July, giving Minnesota time to add hospital capacity, and purchase more ventilators, testing supplies and masks and other protective equipment.
“The supply issue is not going away,” said Walz.
The state will begin a process to evaluate which businesses could reopen if they can maintain social distancing, including landscaping firms or golf courses that need to do maintenance.
“It is welcome news some businesses can open up and safely resume work, even as the stay at home order is extended,” said Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka, R- East Gull Lake. “I will continue to share the feedback I get with the Governor as he makes these decisions.”
The initial plan had been for a two-week order that would have ended Friday, based on modeling estimates that it would reduce face-to-face contact by 80 % and exposure risks to the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19. That was to be followed for another three weeks by lesser restrictions — although with continued closures of schools and dine-in restaurants — that would reduce contact by 50 %.
Under Wednesday’s action, bars and dine-in restaurants will now remain closed until the end of the stay-at-home period. They would have opened a few days earlier on May 1.
At what should be a period of exponential growth in this outbreak, health officials expected a doubling of COVID-19 cases every one or two days. Instead, that doubling is only happening every eight days.
The fatality rate has been lower than expected as well, though that is largely due to Minnesota hospitals having adequate beds and ventilators to treat severe cases so far. Initial models suggested a surge of severe cases that could overwhelm those hospitals and increase the death rate because some patients with severe respiratory symptoms wouldn’t have ventilators when needed.
The announcement came as 85 more confirmed cases and five deaths from COVID-19 were announced by the Minnesota Health Department Wednesday morning.
As the case count continues to grow, more people are requiring hospital care. There are now 135 patients at the state’s hospitals, with 64 of them in intensive care.
COVID-19 has now claimed the lives of 39 in Minnesota. A total of 1,154 have tested positive and more than half of them — 632 people — have recovered and no longer need to be isolated.
Minnesota reported its first case on March 6. Because of a testing shortage, the total number of people infected by the new coronavirus is not known.
https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-ho...569473642/
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My new start date is 5/4

Let's hope this happens
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