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This was kinda shocking for me to read. Until I thought more about it.

I'll place a big amount of $$ they will close city parks, playgrounds and dog-parks too. They're already closed in many suburbs as large groups were congregating. 

MN's love to get outside when it warms up. Matter of when till there are too many people putting themselves at risk.
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Minneapolis closes beaches, pools and programs for entire summerThe closures extend to park restrooms, drinking fountains and aquatic facilities.

By  Ryan Faircloth Star TribuneApril 3, 2020 — 5:15am

The Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board is closing all public beaches and pools for the entire summer, canceling summer recreational programs and team sports that do not allow social distancing and shuttering all of its buildings until further notice to prevent the spread of COVID-19.
In announcing the closures Thursday night, the Park Board noted, “It’s clear that social distancing will be part of life in Minnesota for many months to come.” The board said it based its decisions on data and guidance from Gov. Tim Walz and the Minnesota Department of Health.
“Based on the governor’s forecast and concern for the health and safety of park visitors and employees, the MPRB is bracing for a future that drastically changes services and programs this spring and summer,” the Park Board announcement read. “All plans are designed to ensure social distancing, prevent congregating and protect the health of the public and employees.”
The closures extend to park restrooms, drinking fountains and aquatic facilities.
The Eloise Butler Wildflower Garden and Bird Sanctuary is also closed, because its narrow paths and boardwalks make social distancing too difficult.
City parks and trails will remain open, as will playgrounds, parkways, dog parks and athletic fields and courts. Golf courses will open if Gov. Tim Walz allows it, the Park Board said.
https://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-...569339592/

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@purplefaithful said:
Enough of your fluff Jimmy...Back to some bitch slap in your face reality  :o

Life w/out a vaccine ain't going to be normal.

This was kinda shocking for me to read. Thats until I thought more about it. I'll place a big amount of $$ they will close city parks, playgrounds and dog-parks too. They're already closed in many suburbs as large groups were congregating. 

MN's love to get outside when it warms up. Matter of when till there are too many people putting themselves at risk.
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Minneapolis closes beaches, pools and programs for entire summerThe closures extend to park restrooms, drinking fountains and aquatic facilities.

By  Ryan Faircloth Star TribuneApril 3, 2020 — 5:15am

The Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board is closing all public beaches and pools for the entire summer, canceling summer recreational programs and team sports that do not allow social distancing and shuttering all of its buildings until further notice to prevent the spread of COVID-19.
In announcing the closures Thursday night, the Park Board noted, “It’s clear that social distancing will be part of life in Minnesota for many months to come.” The board said it based its decisions on data and guidance from Gov. Tim Walz and the Minnesota Department of Health.
“Based on the governor’s forecast and concern for the health and safety of park visitors and employees, the MPRB is bracing for a future that drastically changes services and programs this spring and summer,” the Park Board announcement read. “All plans are designed to ensure social distancing, prevent congregating and protect the health of the public and employees.”
The closures extend to park restrooms, drinking fountains and aquatic facilities.
The Eloise Butler Wildflower Garden and Bird Sanctuary is also closed, because its narrow paths and boardwalks make social distancing too difficult.
City parks and trails will remain open, as will playgrounds, parkways, dog parks and athletic fields and courts. Golf courses will open if Gov. Tim Walz allows it, the Park Board said.
https://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-...569339592/

why?  this grand of a statement makes absolutely zero sense this far out.   what good does it do to tell people in April that they cant go use a public park in July or August?   this kind of shit just horrifies people that are otherwise likely taking it seriously.

I can see preemptively cancelling summer rec programs and giving parents ample notice,  many summer baseball programs would be starting to ramp up by now, but some of the shit is just a scare tactic to say that it wont be available months from now IMO.

Also the more places they close,  the less places available for people to spread out to.  we know damn well that people can only stay inside for so long,  why limit the places that people can try and safely stretch their legs?

I am all for social distancing and to take precautions,  but its is insane to think that people can stay locked away in their homes for months on end.  IMO this could end up doing more damage than good in some instances. 

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Perhaps it's just a reality that this thing ain't going away till there is a vaccine.  The grim recognition of how we have to plan, knowing they can lift the ban much quicker than can get people to stop.  Community spread from an asymptomatic carrier is a real tough issue.  

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@BigAl99 said:
Perhaps it's just a reality that this thing ain't going away till there is a vaccine.  The grim recognition of how we have to plan, knowing they can lift the ban much quicker than can get people to stop.  Community spread from an asymptomatic carrier is a real tough issue.  

Until there is a vaccine, it's probably not going to go away entirely. I would imagine we'll see multiple waves of this thing, where we get over a curve, relax some policies, then get small resurgences. Somewhere in there we'll hit a point where the amount of new cases becomes tolerable enough to risk restarting the economy. So the key IMO is testing. If we can get to the point where we can just test everyone, that will do more than anything to stop it in its tracks. And that's likely far closer than any vaccine. 

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I'm stealing this one ^^^^!  LMAO!!

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Part of the problem is that some states are trying to get ahead of it and others are not. There are different approaches. And the states that are getting ahead of it are still going to be impacted by the states that are not acting swiftly enough.

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For what it's worth, my ex girlfriend is a forensic pathologist (think Quincy), so she gets a lot of information about what the state of Colorado is expecting. She said Colorado's peak is expected to be April 17 with 2300 deaths. Right now we're at about 100 deaths, so that gives you an idea of the trajectory of this thing. 

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@Vikergirl said:
Part of the problem is that some states are trying to get ahead of it and others are not. There are different approaches. And the states that are getting ahead of it are still going to be impacted by the states that are not acting swiftly enough.

just living in some of the rural states that arent shut down yet is the same or better self quarantining than what those in a metro area have to do intentionally.

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@MaroonBells said:

@BigAl99 said:
Perhaps it's just a reality that this thing ain't going away till there is a vaccine.  The grim recognition of how we have to plan, knowing they can lift the ban much quicker than can get people to stop.  Community spread from an asymptomatic carrier is a real tough issue.  

Until there is a vaccine, it's probably not going to go away entirely. I would imagine we'll see multiple waves of this thing, where we get over a curve, relax some policies, then get small resurgences. Somewhere in there we'll hit a point where the amount of new cases becomes tolerable enough to risk restarting the economy. So the key IMO is testing. If we can get to the point where we can just test everyone, that will do more than anything to stop it in its tracks. And that's likely far closer than any vaccine. 

I'd settle for some therapeutics in the interim...To be clear, it needs to be ones that science has proven actually works and works safely for mass populations. Lots being done in this area too. If we can keep the afflicted from spiraling to needing ventilators? That's a win for now. 

That said, I agree with both you and BigAl - no normal till there is a vaccine. Let's not even begin to talk about Fall when cold, dry weather returns. 

We need science now just like polio, mumps, measles, small pox, Rubella etc.