Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ dadevike said:
2020 Cap Hit Dead Cap
Griff 13.9 800K This is the most likely candidate for release
Reiff 13.2 4.4M
X 12.9 4.8
Linval 12.95 2.4
Rudy 8.8 5.8
Vikings have 36 players under contract for 2020 at $202M.
Thanks for the breakdown. Interesting that $202M is right at the top range of what some believe the cap will be.
I'd say Griff, X and Linval are good candidates. Not sure what that would give us, given the complexity of their contracts, but their cap hits add up to $40M. You replace Griffen with Weatherly or Odenigbo; Rhodes with Hughes; Linval with Watts or JJ. Downgrades all, but nothing too severe.
Definitely resign Harris and Alexander. I'd let Waynes test the market and if he doesn't get "silly" money, he might be one to bring back and talk to (ala Barr). Be tough losing both our starting corners. If we did, then CB probably has to be the 1st pick in the draft. Probably add a mid-priced corner via free agency, too. Interesting how that "cRaZy" corner pick two years ago looks awfully insightful now.
I'd plan on keeping Reiff until we see what happens in the draft and free agency (and whatever the team thinks of Hill and Udoh). Reiff can be a flex piece if we need to save more money late in the offseason. But here's an interesting thing: when Reiff went out against Philly, Hill came in, gave up zero pressures and scored the 2nd highest PFF pass pro grade of any lineman on the Vikings this year. I've heard some say that, like Reiff, he's just a much better left tackle than right. So Reiff to Hill is not necessarily a downgrade in performance but should be a significant decrease in salary.
Good analysis!
Losing both starting corners in one fell swoop makes me want to get an Rx for Zanax, maybe Zantac antacids too.
I like Hill as the off the bench swing-man. Dont trust him to start.
OL still a big priority for us, hate to have to pick a corner over either of the trenches with a #1 pick...
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Losing both starting corners in one fell swoop makes me want to get an Rx for Zanax, maybe Zantac antacids too.
I like Hill as the off the bench swing-man. Dont trust him to start.
OL still a big priority for us, hate to have to pick a corner over either of the trenches with a #1 pick...
Yeah, but Hill is a free agent. And based on his background and performance in relief he's probably going to get a low-end starter offer from someone. I think what we do depends a lot on what we think of Collins and Udoh. If either one is ready to play the Hill role, then releasing Reiff (or losing Hill) becomes a lot more tolerable.
Things I worry about:
Our next opponent.
Can I trust that it's really just a fart.
Securing my next contract.
Is rain going to screw up my DirecTv.
Things I don't worry about:
Brez handling the cap.
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
Things I worry about:
Our next opponent.
Can I trust that it's really just a fart.
Securing my next contract.
Is rain going to screw up my DirecTv.
Things I don't worry about:
Brez handling the cap.
Lofl, that really did make me laugh...
How bout - losing Brez to retirement? :p
Can we fit Brandon Scherff in somehow pretty please...!  B)
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
Things I worry about:
Our next opponent.
Can I trust that it's really just a fart.
Securing my next contract.
Is rain going to screw up my DirecTv.
Things I don't worry about:
Brez handling the cap.
Lofl, that really did make me laugh...
How bout - losing Brez to retirement? :p
I'll add that to the worry list.
It's the same old story every year regarding the salary cap...and every year the Vikings find the ways to get it done. I expect this coming year it will not be any different. The organization will figure it out and we'll be good for another year. Yawn.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
i started playing with numbers the other day and cleared quite a bit of space, but in order to get the most out of the cuts that many are proposing we would have to make them June 1st cuts and that doesnt give us the cap space to use to go after the better pool of free agents... about all that money would help with is signing rookies and some veteran depth from the rest of the post June first cuts.
I also dont expect them to cut guys like Rudy who are having a solid year, I expect another renegotiate so we wont see those full cap savings as some want to pencil in, but that is one less hole to fill as well.
seriously though, head over that "over the cap" site and play with the Vikings cap for next year. its not nearly as peachy as some want to believe nor not as healthy as were are told the previous year.... its always wait until next year and then we go shopping.... and then next year its cap crunch once again.
If we cut Linval, Griffen, and Reiff this offseason we would free up around 32 million in cap space. If we designated them as post-June 1 cuts, we could gain an additional 3.8 million.
So no, we don't need to wait until after June 1 to make some serious cap space available... and frankly, if we can free up 32 million, it doesn't really pay to wait to free up that space to gain a little extra. Ideally, we restructure some of these contracts to free up some space and allow us to keep Harris and one of Mac or Waynes without creating additional holes.
If we can do that, we currently have 7 draft picks and potentially 4 more compensatory picks coming our way (3rd and three 7ths). The Vikings could have as many as 11 picks in the 2020 draft and have always been active in the UDFA market. I don't think we'll have a problem filling out our roster.
I think we have 5 7th rounders...imagine if 3 pan out like Bisi...
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