So no collusion.

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@A1Janitor said:

@KingBash said:

@Zanary said:
Well.

It appears that asking a Trump supporter to actually explain/defend one of his bigger blunders without immediately changing the subject to something years gone on Obama's watch was too much to ask.

Haha A1 has no arguments left so he's resorted to simply downvoting facts.

It takes a long time to back Trump supporters into a corner where they're forced to shut up because they're out of arguments, but this is what it looks like: the "thumbs down" when they've lost.

Nah.  give it time.  

I will be back to laugh at you idiots.  The truth is coming out. 

Indictments of Obama officials.  Watch.  They are treasonous scumbags. 

This isn't about Obama, it's about Trump. Shut up and stay on topic.

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@SFVikeFan said:

You're going to be on suicide watch pretty soon. 

God we can only hope.

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@KingBash said:

@A1Janitor said:

@KingBash said:

@Zanary said:
Well.

It appears that asking a Trump supporter to actually explain/defend one of his bigger blunders without immediately changing the subject to something years gone on Obama's watch was too much to ask.

Haha A1 has no arguments left so he's resorted to simply downvoting facts.

It takes a long time to back Trump supporters into a corner where they're forced to shut up because they're out of arguments, but this is what it looks like: the "thumbs down" when they've lost.

Nah.  give it time.  

I will be back to laugh at you idiots.  The truth is coming out. 

Indictments of Obama officials.  Watch.  They are treasonous scumbags. 

This isn't about Obama, it's about Trump. Shut up and stay on topic.

I don't see why this is so complicated:

I tore into ol' Obama-na, the free pass given to him by the media (imagine if Trump had pulled "Fast and Furious" or the Bergdahl debacle...CNN and MSNBC would drowned in their own orgasmic fluids), and the way his babbling fan club screamed "RACIST!!!!" every time someone had any issue with that prez's positions/actions.

That presidency, however, ended in January of 2017.  Maybe some people missed the memo.

The current embarrassment to the Oval Office and traitor to the people (latest in a long line) is the current subject...yet, to avoid it, everything from TJack to Kennedys has been invoked, instead of a direct response.

Trumplestilskin's fan club has been taking debate lessons from the Clintons.

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@Zanary said:
...so, no straight-up debate or defense is likely, then.

Kinda figured.

Gave you both.  

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@KingBash said:

@A1Janitor said:

@KingBash said:

@Zanary said:
Well.

It appears that asking a Trump supporter to actually explain/defend one of his bigger blunders without immediately changing the subject to something years gone on Obama's watch was too much to ask.

Haha A1 has no arguments left so he's resorted to simply downvoting facts.

It takes a long time to back Trump supporters into a corner where they're forced to shut up because they're out of arguments, but this is what it looks like: the "thumbs down" when they've lost.

Nah.  give it time.  

I will be back to laugh at you idiots.  The truth is coming out. 

Indictments of Obama officials.  Watch.  They are treasonous scumbags. 

This isn't about Obama, it's about Trump. Shut up and stay on topic.

For such an intellectual lightweight, I shouldn’t bother with you.  A dishonest scumbag.  

This isn’t whataboutism with Obama.  This was a coup by the Obama intelligence.  Russia was a made up hoax.  

Pay attention.   It’s all coming out soon.  

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@A1Janitor said:

@SFVikeFan said:

@A1Janitor said:

@KingBash said:

@Zanary said:
Well.

It appears that asking a Trump supporter to actually explain/defend one of his bigger blunders without immediately changing the subject to something years gone on Obama's watch was too much to ask.

Haha A1 has no arguments left so he's resorted to simply downvoting facts.

It takes a long time to back Trump supporters into a corner where they're forced to shut up because they're out of arguments, but this is what it looks like: the "thumbs down" when they've lost.

Nah.  give it time.  

I will be back to laugh at you idiots.  The truth is coming out. 

Indictments of Obama officials.  Watch.  They are treasonous scumbags. 

Promises promises.

The weeks are turning into months.  

The truth is out - Trump's a lying con man, a proven failure at running his businesses into the ground, now he claims he  purposely lost billions in order to save millions in taxes ... and just admitted to tax fraud.

Oh, and Don Jr. just got subpoenaed by REPUBLICANS. 


You're going to be on suicide watch pretty soon. 

You really haven’t paid atrention have you?

Stupid.

Knowing your low IQ and belief in multiple conspiracy theories that I have already proven false on several occasions here, why would I draw propaganda er' information from the same well as an uneducated nutjob like yourself?

" Pay attention "

LMAO

Oh I am sweetheart, Don Jr. just got subpoenaed by Republicans.   What do you think about that?  Are the GOP now part of the Obama coup too?

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@A1Janitor said:

For such an intellectual lightweight, I shouldn’t bother with you.  A dishonest scumbag.  

This isn’t whataboutism with Obama.  This was a coup by the Obama intelligence.  Russia was a made up hoax.  

Pay attention.   It’s all coming out soon.  

And let's say you're right.

Total hoax,  Bonafide  bogus. 

Why not let the investigation run its course like Hillary did?  Why do all your people lie if what they were doing was perfectly legal?  Why do you tell your people to lie for you?  


You realize Nixon wasn't busted for the crime, it was for the coverup.  And Trump has blatantly and illegally obstructed justice on multiple  occasions and is still doing it RIGHT NOW - that's exactly what the Mueller report said and exactly why even Barr admitted the report "doesn't exonerate Trump".  Had Trump not been a sitting President, he would be facing multiple felony charges, that's the opinion of over 700 federal prosecutors.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-secu...bstruction


Why does this not compute with you?  Because he was proven innocent of one crime, automatically means he's also innocent of all others?  

Derp.


Oh, and North Korea just launched 2 more ballistic missiles after Trump declared NK was no longer a threat.  Better get to work on those love letters!  

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@savannahskol said:

@SFVikeFan 

Reports say about a 2% redacted report (2% due to 6e regs/sources-methods) has been available to Congess for days. 
As of fairly recently, very few (almost no) members of Congress have reviewed the full/2% redacted report. 
(I stand to be corrected on this, as that was the reportage a few days ago)

Grades hidden?  Where's Obama's college transcripts?  
MSM moves heaven/earth to find Bush's college record (found!)/Trump's tax records(found!)... but GOOOOLLLLLY... nothing on Obama's 
college records.  STYMIED.  lmao

I love the NYT's 'scoop' yesterday. 
A NYT review re: the exact same information:  
Oct 2016:  Trump's past suspect.   https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/04/nyreg...-debt.html
                 That was supposed to be the Dem October surprise (his downfall), since Trump was the GOP nominee. 
Back in 1995, Trump was the "Crowning the Comeback Kid "... celebrating Tump as one of the few survivors of the NYC real-estate crash
                 https://www.nytimes.com/1995/10/25/nyreg...-king.html
Yesterday:  Trump lost billions (and wrote off billions in taxes -- perfectly legal)
                  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019...google.com&gwh=ADBF2345D29DC4629384AD4880EB874D&gwt=pay     

Same info.  3 different takes.  How schizophrenic is the Grey Lady?    And Trump is mental? 

Hell.... Trump admitted it to the world years ago he lost billions....

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx9cMuMb2pk  
http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx9cMuMb2pk


About taxes.  Regrettably..... I must take myself out of consideration for any future consideration for POTUS. 
(I know, mellon collie and infinite sadness) 
You see, I bought real estate when I moved to Georgia in 2005. Fairly high income job.  Got caught up in the RE bubble (didn't know it was a bubble, at the time) 
I bought a main house (254k) , an oceanside condo on HHI (195k) and a lot on a promising golf-course subdivision (150k).  
3 yrs later, the 'bubble burst'. 2007-8.  
My house hung tough, by my oceanside condo was worth 95k (down from 195k) and my lot on the promising golf-course was worth 90k. 
Net loss of 160k, on paper.  Future wasn't lookin' bright.  

I was IRS audited in 2013.  Small businessman, llc.  Figures.  
Had done TurboTax for years, but hired an accountant, for the field audit.  
In the meantime, sold the condo for 130k (65k loss) sold the lot  for 95k (60k loss). 
Turns out, per my accountant, I could deduct 3k a year from my taxes on the lot. (3k a year until total of 60k) until reaches total of 60k. 
                                               I could deduct (65k divided by 28% --my tax bracket, or about 15k) as a one-time deduction from one year's taxes.  
Turbo-Tax had not alerted me to this.  

Point is... if MY simple situation has so many permutations... can you imagine DJT's (NYC commercial real-estate mogul) situation? 
Undergoing the only NYC commercial real-estate negative correction, in the last 100 yrs?  (other than 2007-2010)

new york city commercial real estate correction in 90's graph
 
1984-1995... the yr's the NYT's happened to find his
"tax transcripts" (not actual tax returns)? lol

I sat down with an IRS agent from 9-5 in  September of 2013. 
She went over every aspect of my financial life for a full day.  Full bank records, full business records.  
I ended the day owing an additional 2K, to the IRS. 
Thankful she decided not to go back 7 years of returns.  Thankful that was all.

If you work your life as an employee, W-2's... withholding, etc.  Cool.  You'll never be subject to an IRS audit. 
If you're an entrepreneur....llc.... etc.... you're a TARGET.  
I had one CPA I was interviewing that moved to Savannah from NYC... and that the IRS pulls a heavy % of NYC returns, de rigueur.  (anecdote)

There are career politicians that structure their tax returns expecting public inspection. 
Then, there are businessmen/entrepreneurs that structure their tax returns to give the govt everything their entitled to, and not a penny more.  
Trump was a NYC-commercial real estate mogul.   
If he paid 0.01 more than he owed?  He had shitty CPA's/tax lawyers, but was well tax-return-positioned for a career in politics, lol. 

First off, Obama never went on world tour bragging what a brilliant student he was and declared himself a stable genius.

Do you really think Harvard Law School hires some a guy with crappy grades to teach their Constitutional Law courses?   Please.  


As for tax writeoffs, yes I'm well aware how you can roll losses forward as deductions.  The point is, those are actual losses - probably not Trump's own money, but I guarantee you thank his lenders - banks, investors, etc - were not happy with those numbers.

He bankrupted a casino for chrissakes.

Trump's losses were DOUBLE what the next biggest tax return loss was in the entire country.

If you think it's a smart move to lose BILLIONS so you can save millions on your taxes, then you probably are a graduate of Trump University. 

At least Trump can proudly claim to be the biggest loser in history.  Nobody does bankruptcies and losses bigger than him!

You're not a billionaire if you claim to have a billion in assets but have $999 million in liabilities.  I'm willing to bet his liabilities even exceed his assets and he is completely over-leveraged.

Most banks and lenders want to see a 3:1 debt to equity ratio before extending financing which is why US banks wouldn't touch him, and the Deutsche Bank loans that are already known to be money launderers for Russians were his only hope.

What a proud patriot who probably hasn't paid a nickle in taxes in several years to support our military... and he just gifted himself an even bigger tax cut.

Corporate welfare at its finest.

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@A1Janitor said:

@KingBash said:

@A1Janitor said:

@KingBash said:

@Zanary said:
Well.

It appears that asking a Trump supporter to actually explain/defend one of his bigger blunders without immediately changing the subject to something years gone on Obama's watch was too much to ask.

Haha A1 has no arguments left so he's resorted to simply downvoting facts.

It takes a long time to back Trump supporters into a corner where they're forced to shut up because they're out of arguments, but this is what it looks like: the "thumbs down" when they've lost.

Nah.  give it time.  

I will be back to laugh at you idiots.  The truth is coming out. 

Indictments of Obama officials.  Watch.  They are treasonous scumbags. 

This isn't about Obama, it's about Trump. Shut up and stay on topic.

For such an intellectual lightweight, I shouldn’t bother with you.  A dishonest scumbag.  

This isn’t whataboutism with Obama.  This was a coup by the Obama intelligence.  Russia was a made up hoax.  

Pay attention.   It’s all coming out soon.  

No they didn't. Shut up.

Time to simply ignore people like yourself and tell you to shut up, turn off Fox News, and go away.

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@SFVikeFan said:

First off, Obama never went on world tour bragging what a brilliant student he was and declared himself a stable genius.

Do you really think Harvard Law School hires some a guy with crappy grades to teach their Constitutional Law courses?   Please.  


As for tax writeoffs, yes I'm well aware how you can roll losses forward as deductions.  The point is, those are actual losses - probably not Trump's own money, but I guarantee you thank his lenders - banks, investors, etc - were not happy with those numbers.

He bankrupted a casino for chrissakes.

Trump's losses were DOUBLE what the next biggest tax return loss was in the entire country.

If you think it's a smart move to lose BILLIONS so you can save millions on your taxes, then you probably are a graduate of Trump University. 

At least Trump can proudly claim to be the biggest loser in history.  Nobody does bankruptcies and losses bigger than him!

You're not a billionaire if you claim to have a billion in assets but have $999 million in liabilities.  I'm willing to bet his liabilities even exceed his assets and he is completely over-leveraged.

Most banks and lenders want to see a 3:1 debt to equity ratio before extending financing which is why US banks wouldn't touch him, and the Deutsche Bank loans that are already known to be money launderers for Russians were his only hope.

What a proud patriot who probably hasn't paid a nickle in taxes in several years to support our military... and he just gifted himself an even bigger tax cut.

Corporate welfare at its finest.

Bolded above. That's what I find funniest. All these flag waving Americans are supporting a guy who's admitting to tax fraud essentially. He's a cheat, a liar, and they couldn't like him more. 

Time to start calling his supporters un-American, because they are, despite how many pro-gun bumper stickers on their cars and flags they plaster all over their property.