Look at the bright side;
We are only a coach and a QB away.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ comet52 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ Zanary said:
Oh good, adding to 5 years of "trade Kirk" blather!
How fuggin' original.
Here's a headline: the Vikings have not been a good enough team to advance beyond the levels they've achieved as a GROUP. 2017 was a whole series of flukes, for Keenum most of all, and it took a genuine miracle (particularly a defender error) to beat NOLA in the playoffs. Phlly steamrolled us in a way that reminded us that we weren't really there.
The NFL figured out Zimmer's defense, and he was a complete s**t to a QB and offense that got him 10-15 more passing TDs per season. The o-line was crap, the defenense fell off a cliff, and Cousins let the team move his money all over the place to help pay others...so, no, his contract didn't shackle the team.
This year, we lead the league in turnovers and drops...and are losing the same 1-score games we were winning, before. Given how many of Cousins' passes I've seen hit targets in both hands, yet get dropped/bobbled, I have to think that putting most of the blame on him is a combination of agenda and insanity.
The team, as a whole, is "off", never seems to be clicking beyond a drive or two. That's largely on coaching, and I don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
The defense has gone from the cellar to mid-pack, the o-line is truly stepping up. Maybe, just maybe, the team is coming together and will get their goofs ironed out for a strong second half...and JJ's return.
God damn kookaid drinking homer...
Bet I can tell you how it's all gonna go down, because....VIKINGS! We're gonna play the 49ers tough and then lose because of another silly mistake. Then we're gonna trade Hunter. Then we're gonna go on a 6 game winning streak, sitting at 8-5 and very much in playoff contention, wishing we had kept Hunter.
This 2-4 and imo soon to be 2-6 team got its wins barely beating two of the worst teams in football, in fact they could have lost both games. I'd say going on a 6 game win streak is about as likely as me winning the lottery.
The team that played the Bears and Panthers sure as hell isn't going to win 6 straight. But I think the team that played the Eagles, Chargers and Chiefs can, provided JJ isn't out more than 4 weeks. Teams change identities over the course of a season. They do this all the time and nobody seems to notice. It's why Bud used to say it's not who you play it's when you play them.
Just one example, last year the Lions started 1-6. This was a team you wanted to play. They finished 9-8, barely missing the playoffs. That December Lions team you wanted no part of.
It's nice to have wishes and fantasies about this team but it's not about to magically turn into the Lions because it's full of holes, not just on the field but on the sidelines and in the front office. Its also missing it's best player and one of it's few capable defenders for at least the next 4 games.
Quote: @FLVike said:
Look at the bright side;
We are only a coach and a QB away.
And about 15-20 other guys. Piece of cake.
Quote: @comet52 said:
@ FLVike said:
Look at the bright side;
We are only a coach and a QB away.
And about 15-20 other guys. Piece of cake.
Not if our QB signs as a spokesman for State Farm.
Quote: @Zanary said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
It's perfectly natural, thinking that Kirk is gonna take this team to the promised land... well that might be a sign of a health issue. =)
The not-so-secret secret is that the TEAM takes itself...or not. Period.
We weren't going with a toxic head coach.
We weren't going with his predecessor, who's likely still watching tape from 2013.
We weren't going with Teddy or Case, who barely averaged at or above 1 passing TD per game.
We weren't going with 30th-rated defenses.
We weren't going with constant o-line issues.
NOW...our defense has clawed its way into mediocrity, our o-line is actually rated well, and our losses largely come down to...errors, in the forms of turnovers and drops.
Furthermore, two of our losses were to the most recent superbowl teams, another to a very recent superbowl champion, and one...well, Herbert sliced us up. 85% is a brutal number.
All that said, the new defense was going to take time, and correcting mistakes goes a HUGE way toward this team flipping its script.
Hey, I know, the mega-nega-nancies are already calling in a "just good enough to screw our draft position" season, because they're sad wretches by definition. Really, that's being a sad wretch. Honest.
Yeah, I want at least one Lombardi before I die, and I actually want a winning record in Superbowls before I die...but I think it's not only right, but actually important to mock and malign the grim b****es that want to cast negativity all over sites, boards, and threads every season. Treat them badly, as they're all too happy to rain on parades. It's a fair exchange!
Honestly, I think they're miserable enough.
I used to wonder who are these dour, mournful souls? And why do they think the things they think? Do they kick their dogs too? Do they disappear into dark corners of their houses and cut themselves? They know it's just a fucking game, right?
But I don't think that anymore. In fact, I suspect they don't like the team any less than anyone else. In a lot of cases, it's probably more. But where many of us watch a loss, turn on Netflix and forget about it. For them, the losses cut deeper. The blade sharpened by decades of hope and promise followed by crushing defeat.
And so they run from even the most reasonable amount of hope or positivity like a madman from his demons.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ Zanary said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
It's perfectly natural, thinking that Kirk is gonna take this team to the promised land... well that might be a sign of a health issue. =)
The not-so-secret secret is that the TEAM takes itself...or not. Period.
We weren't going with a toxic head coach.
We weren't going with his predecessor, who's likely still watching tape from 2013.
We weren't going with Teddy or Case, who barely averaged at or above 1 passing TD per game.
We weren't going with 30th-rated defenses.
We weren't going with constant o-line issues.
NOW...our defense has clawed its way into mediocrity, our o-line is actually rated well, and our losses largely come down to...errors, in the forms of turnovers and drops.
Furthermore, two of our losses were to the most recent superbowl teams, another to a very recent superbowl champion, and one...well, Herbert sliced us up. 85% is a brutal number.
All that said, the new defense was going to take time, and correcting mistakes goes a HUGE way toward this team flipping its script.
Hey, I know, the mega-nega-nancies are already calling in a "just good enough to screw our draft position" season, because they're sad wretches by definition. Really, that's being a sad wretch. Honest.
Yeah, I want at least one Lombardi before I die, and I actually want a winning record in Superbowls before I die...but I think it's not only right, but actually important to mock and malign the grim b****es that want to cast negativity all over sites, boards, and threads every season. Treat them badly, as they're all too happy to rain on parades. It's a fair exchange!
Honestly, I think they're miserable enough.
I used to wonder who are these dour, mournful souls? And why do they think the things they think? Do they kick their dogs too? Do they disappear into dark corners of their houses and cut themselves? They know it's just a fucking game, right?
But I don't think that anymore. In fact, I suspect they don't like the team any less than anyone else. In a lot of cases, it's probably more. But where many of us watch a loss, turn on Netflix and forget about it. For them, the losses cut deeper. The blade sharpened by decades of hope and promise followed by crushing defeat.
And so they run from even the most reasonable amount of hope or positivity like a madman from his demons.
lol I like the waxing philosophical here, but from a long term fan perspective you just mitigate your emotions and understand its just a game. I don't need to be pollyanna or negative, I just react how I see it from my perspective. Its just fandom. There are no 'demons', just long time disappointment and expecting the worst...but always secretly hoping for the best.
But some of us cannot understand how it is even possible that our team can go through the best defenses and best offenses and hall of fame talent like Randall McDaniel, Randy Moss and Cris Carter, Steve Hutchinson, Jared Allen, Kevin Williams, All-Day and Brett Favre, and now JJ, to name a few, without getting to the Superbowl. Is there any other team like this?
Quote: @FLVike said:
But some of us cannot understand how it is even possible that our team can go through the best defenses and best offenses and hall of fame talent like Randall McDaniel, Randy Moss and Cris Carter, Steve Hutchinson, Jared Allen, Kevin Williams, All-Day and Brett Favre, and now JJ, to name a few, without getting to the Superbowl. Is there any other team like this?
All teams have had great players and not gotten over the hump at times. But we've had great teams and not even gotten back there in damn near 50 years. I dont know that we are the most cursed, but gotta be at least first runner up.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ FLVike said:
But some of us cannot understand how it is even possible that our team can go through the best defenses and best offenses and hall of fame talent like Randall McDaniel, Randy Moss and Cris Carter, Steve Hutchinson, Jared Allen, Kevin Williams, All-Day and Brett Favre, and now JJ, to name a few, without getting to the Superbowl. Is there any other team like this?
All teams have had great players and not gotten over the hump at times. But we've had great teams and not even gotten back there in damn near 50 years. I dont know that we are the most cursed, but gotta be at least first runner up.
I'm getting old and may not be able to calculate correctly but I think 2026 will be our 50th season since we got there.
Quote: @FLVike said:
But some of us cannot understand how it is even possible that our team can go through the best defenses and best offenses and hall of fame talent like Randall McDaniel, Randy Moss and Cris Carter, Steve Hutchinson, Jared Allen, Kevin Williams, All-Day and Brett Favre, and now JJ, to name a few, without getting to the Superbowl. Is there any other team like this?
Honestly?
Nope
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