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So...Stingley
#51
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@jargomcfargo said:
Stingley seems to have the potential to be one of the best in the league. He sure seems to have the physical abilities to do so. Unfortunately, he was that guy 2 years ago. They say he has been making business decisions since. He should have a great pro day tomorrow. But when it comes to the pros, I worry about his longevity. 
But his upside is so great, it may be worth the gamble. This new defensive scheme would benefit greatly if it had a CB that could play press coverage. I would move up for the sauce if he would fall within reach. 
Yep. I wish it were as simple as the injury thing, but there's some buzz that there might be more to it than that. Worth the gamble at 12?  Maybe. Undecided. 
thats where i am at.  the pedigree,   the past performance,  its all there,  but something screams "run" in my head when I think of taking him at 12.  Probably over thinking it, but why werent any of his team mates at his 21st birthday party?
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#52
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@MaroonBells said:
@jargomcfargo said:
Stingley seems to have the potential to be one of the best in the league. He sure seems to have the physical abilities to do so. Unfortunately, he was that guy 2 years ago. They say he has been making business decisions since. He should have a great pro day tomorrow. But when it comes to the pros, I worry about his longevity. 
But his upside is so great, it may be worth the gamble. This new defensive scheme would benefit greatly if it had a CB that could play press coverage. I would move up for the sauce if he would fall within reach. 
Yep. I wish it were as simple as the injury thing, but there's some buzz that there might be more to it than that. Worth the gamble at 12?  Maybe. Undecided. 
thats where i am at.  the pedigree,   the past performance,  its all there,  but something screams "run" in my head when I think of taking him at 12.  Probably over thinking it, but why werent any of his team mates at his 21st birthday party?
We have his former DB coach at LSU, Daronte Jones, on our staff. If Stingley has any personality issues we're sure to know about them.
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#53
38.5 inch vert and ran a 4.37. Bet that changes folks' Big Boards and Mock Drafts
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#54
Quote: @Hawkvike25 said:
38.5 inch vert and ran a 4.37. Bet that changes folks' Big Boards and Mock Drafts

I'm thinking him and Sauce will both be off the board now. But hey, at least we won a meaningless game against the Bears in the last game that would have put us right in that mix from a draft position standpoint for both of those players. I'm so tired of the Vikings doing that shit. Thinking if there's a top player that might fall now it's probably Hamilton. 
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#55
Quote: @Hawkvike25 said:
38.5 inch vert and ran a 4.37. Bet that changes folks' Big Boards and Mock Drafts
Good for him, probably bad for those of us who wanted him at 12. Sigh.

Time to watch some film on the other CBs! Whoever we wind up with hopefully can play and play well.
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#56
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@Hawkvike25 said:
38.5 inch vert and ran a 4.37. Bet that changes folks' Big Boards and Mock Drafts

I'm thinking him and Sauce will both be off the board now. But hey, at least we won a meaningless game against the Bears in the last game that would have put us right in that mix from a draft position standpoint for both of those players. I'm so tired of the Vikings doing that shit. Thinking if there's a top player that might fall now it's probably Hamilton. 
2 fricking years in a row they pulled that shit... that alone is why zim and spielman should have been fired sooner IMO.
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#57
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@supafreak84 said:
@Hawkvike25 said:
38.5 inch vert and ran a 4.37. Bet that changes folks' Big Boards and Mock Drafts

I'm thinking him and Sauce will both be off the board now. But hey, at least we won a meaningless game against the Bears in the last game that would have put us right in that mix from a draft position standpoint for both of those players. I'm so tired of the Vikings doing that shit. Thinking if there's a top player that might fall now it's probably Hamilton. 
2 fricking years in a row they pulled that shit... that alone is why zim and spielman should have been fired sooner IMO.

I blame the Wilfs. I admire their enthusiasm and always believing we are in the mix, but at some point you have to take control of the organization and order what you believe to be in the best interest of the franchise. Zimmer was a lame duck coach and they should have told him to play ALL the rookies, start Mond, and sit Jefferson and any pertinent players. Ridiculous to have Cousins out there slinging it in a meaningless game against a decimated Bears team. Lose that game and we are probably picking 7th or 8th instead of 12th. 
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#58
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@supafreak84 said:
@Hawkvike25 said:
38.5 inch vert and ran a 4.37. Bet that changes folks' Big Boards and Mock Drafts

I'm thinking him and Sauce will both be off the board now. But hey, at least we won a meaningless game against the Bears in the last game that would have put us right in that mix from a draft position standpoint for both of those players. I'm so tired of the Vikings doing that shit. Thinking if there's a top player that might fall now it's probably Hamilton. 
2 fricking years in a row they pulled that shit... that alone is why zim and spielman should have been fired sooner IMO.

I blame the Wilfs. I admire their enthusiasm and always believing we are in the mix, but at some point you have to take control of the organization and order what you believe to be in the best interest of the franchise. Zimmer was a lame duck coach and they should have told him to play ALL the rookies, start Mond, and sit Jefferson and any pertinent players. Ridiculous to have Cousins out there slinging it in a meaningless game against a decimated Bears team. Lose that game and we are probably picking 7th or 8th instead of 12th. 
I think we’d have been picking 10th. Also JJ wanted his record and it would have been good to see Mond throwing to him, but I agree with everything else you and Jimmy said. Keeping Zim arouns til the end of the year out of respect seems even more odd now, with all of the reports that have come out once the season was over. Not saying trash the guy on his way out the door but it was in the best interest of the team to move on sooner. 
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#59
Get used to the idea that Stingley and Gardner will be gone by 12. There's a good chance that Wilson and Olave will be gone, too. I may be hoping for a trade back. 
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#60
 @Hawkvike25 said:
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38.5 inch vert and ran a 4.37. Bet that changes folks' Big Boards and Mock Drafts
Stingley looked healthy in the drills too, no way he’s there at 12 now… 

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