Quote: @purplefaithful said:
People need clear, concise messaging and leadership from Govt. Or they start ingesting fish tank cleaner and believing they're going back to work in 12 days.
Again, low blow, imo. (I'm not picking on you P-Faithful...promise)
You're referencing the couple that ingested (fish product) hydroxychloroquine PHOSPHATE (Aralen: fish tank cleaner) , not hydroxychloroquine SULFATE (Plaquenil).
Does the govt need to provide disclaimers on chlorine & quinine, as well? They are common compounds easily confused, as well.
As to hydroxychloroquine sulfate (aka chloroquine/Plaquenil) and azithromycin & zinc....... the "govt" is lagging.
Plaquenil + azithromycin + zinc has achieved phenomenal curative results.
The treatment has been anecdotal & off-label and non-double peer reviewed in studies.....
but WOW! the anecdotes have been phenomenal! With no other treatments, available.
Dr Nicholas Perricone... on the front lines.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/614452038700...show-clips
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Our Govt and the Dept of Health let our country down.
The WHO (the org, not the band) let us down >> than "our govt".
![[Image: _l61qZdR_bigger.jpg]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/875476478988886016/_l61qZdR_bigger.jpg) Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China![[Image: 1f1e8-1f1f3.png]](https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f1e8-1f1f3.png) .
That's right, In mid-Jan the WHO (World Health Org) alerted the world that it believed China that "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the Wuhan Virus" existed.
Despite clear early evidence, otherwise.
It's fine to beat up our own failures, but let's not forget grander failures, as well.
The contagion has arrived, exponential rate
Quote: @Max said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Max said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
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@ bigbone62 said:
@ Max said:
@ purplefaithful said:
New York governor: "We’re not going to put a dollar figure on a human life"From CNN's Adrienne Vogt
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo pushed back against comments by President Trump that he could reopen the US economy while keeping an eye on some of the most at-risk populations, including seniors.
“My mother is not expendable. And your mother is not expendable. And our brothers and sisters are not expendable,” Cuomo said. “And we're not going to accept a premise that human life is disposable. And we're not going to put a dollar figure on human life.”
Cuomo said saving lives is most important, but there can be an “intelligent” strategy for getting people back to work.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coro...5dc77cbe90
I mean... unless it's a baby. Then, go ahead and kill it, right?
I mean... unless it's the death penalty. Then, go ahead and kill, right? Who would've thought, Democrats and Republican's are hypocrites!
Well... I am against the death penalty, so there goes that whole theory. But, regardless... you don't see the difference between a criminal and a baby? Seriously?
There is another board for that debate if you choose to have it. Please keep this board politically neutral.
Fair enough. You’ve been doing a fine job moderating this thread; I just have a hard time ignoring that constant talking point by politicians and it sickens me. I’ll do my best to refrain from reacting to that message going forward.
Thank you, and if you have something to say, by all means say it....just in the right place. 
By the way, how's the family doing?
Good. We homeschool and I mostly work from home so this isn’t all that different for us. My wife is going a little stir crazy, but the weather is starting to warm up, so we can take the boys on walks now. They are 5, 4, 3 and 2 now, so they have plenty of energy. how about you?
I figured the youngest would be getting to be about 2 since you were expecting when we met up at remaining camp. That has to be a crazy fun house at those ages, I was going to ask why you didnt have a 1 year old to complete the string of decending ages, but keeping up with the first 4 is likely why. .
My family is good, our daughter got married last May, thank God it wasn't this year, and her and her hisband are on the front lines of this thing in SD, so lots of prayers for them needless to say. Our son finished school last may and moved home but is preparing to move out this spring.
Quote: @savannahskol said:
@ purplefaithful said:
Our Govt and the Dept of Health let our country down.
Oddly, our country was best prepared (more than any other country) as per Washington Post reportage/ Johns Hopkins study late October '19. (Somehow prescient on this subject 6 mos ago)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/20...port-says/
So every country was more un-prepared? But we (US) were least un-prepared?
If "we" were let down...how sad is the rest of the world?
Trump's poll numbers (per Gallup) are at near highs. https://news.gallup.com/poll/284156/trum...-best.aspx
People clearly are not blaming him.
We (US) were CLEARLY behind the curve on "testing kits". No doubt. However, as I mentioned in a separate thread, that was more a "science failure", than a "political failure".
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/10/shor...s-testing/
As a member of the health care community, I take your post to heart.
I refuse to measure our country's preparedness (or not) with a comparo to Europe, India, China, SK etc...
My measuring stick will be how many die, how many died needlessly? how many die helping, how many suffer in an absolute sense.
My gratitude and admiration for the docs/nurses/first responders knows no bounds. It has ZERO to do with how I feel about the decisions made by departmental administrations and entities including DOH.
Sadly, my expectation for FEMA is quite low and based on history being our guide.
I dont give a flying F ck what the polls say right now. History will be the judge when all of this is said and done. I hope to god this POTUS can make good decisions - by listening to his experts.
Prayers to NY State/City let's hope what is about to happen there won't repeat in FL, TX, LA, CA etc..I'm afraid that exponential growth of Covid is about to explode in this country. It's sadly looking like the good olde USA is about to surpass Europe as the planets epicenter for Covid-19.
I will refrain from more politics, as much as its oozed out the side here and there.
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
The contagion has arrived, exponential rate
I'm afraid not enough are getting it...
I just went up to Target for a few things at 7:00 am. Huge line of people (right on top of each other) looking to get in. I turned around and went home.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ BigAl99 said:
The contagion has arrived, exponential rate
I'm afraid not enough are getting it...
I just went up to Target for a few things at 7:00 am. Huge line of people (right on top of each other) looking to get in. I turned around and went home.
I was referencing the Ideological carpet bombing, that hit the thread.
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ BigAl99 said:
The contagion has arrived, exponential rate
I'm afraid not enough are getting it...
I just went up to Target for a few things at 7:00 am. Huge line of people (right on top of each other) looking to get in. I turned around and went home.
I was referencing the Ideological carpet bombing, that hit the thread.
Fair enough...My point is still a valid one, unfortunately. I hope we start seeing some good news regarding the distancing measures having a positive effect. I know it's way too early for that though.
Edit: Actually, New Rochelle may be a bright spot re: social distancing and the positive effect it may have
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