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@"BarrNone55" said:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1250480025046077440

Giggity

Not a QB guru

That is a highlight video and aren't around 3 of those 10 throws behind the WR?  Then a few of the others back shoulder which is different and requires read and timing with WR but still overall not impressive.  I am probably missing a lot but still?

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Honestly, I'm using a kindle, so I really can't tell. The one thing I did pick up was he doesn't use his trunk much. His biggest knock is arm strength. Just a little tweak to engage his trunk in his throws, and you marry that to all the intangibles and non-physical traits you'd ever want...and giggity...

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My thoughts on Fromm after 5 game tapes:
+ good poise in the pocket 
+ appears to do a good job working through progressions
+ takes care of the ball/makes smart decisions
+ seems to have good knowledge of what he’s looking at in terms of the defense
+ probably the most pro ready of the QB’s I’ve watched so far


- average to below average arm talent for NFL . Will have to be efficient with timing
- can send out a wobbler towards the end of the 25-35 yard flatter throws
- accuracy went down the past year despite stacked team
- not mobile at all, appears very limited athletically
- although I like his quick compact throwing motion, his lower body doesn’t always match which in my opinion robs him of velocity. I don’t see this improving much as it should have by now
Comparison: Andy Dalton   3rd-4th round grade 

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While I’m at it I’ll hit a few more.

Jordan Love:
+ big strong build will serve him well at the next level
+ great athleticism allows for plays running or scrambling to throw
+ appears confident and driven
+ excellent arm talent and can make all the NFL throws 
+ can stick the ball into NFL windows
+ dual threat capability


- spotty accuracy especially on deeper throws
- significant drop in overall performance between 2018 - 2019
- locks on and stares down target far too often
- especially on deeper throws has slower time consuming mechanics at times
- not consistent in 2019 resulted in a ton of picks, pick six machine
- questionable decision making
- appears very limited reading the field


A true boom/bust prospect that has a ways to go to be an NFL QB. Top 10 in the draft physical tools but needs to sit a couple of years. Should have stayed in school.
Comparison: Jake Locker or Josh Allen (more recent) 2nd - 4th round grade

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Jacob Eason:


+ monster arm, will be one of the strongest in the league day 1
+ big strong build well suited for NFL 
+ coming from pro style system
+ good accuracy
+ takes care of the ball limiting interceptions
+ good play action 
+ would be a good match for a vertical style offense in NFL


- limited time with essentially one recent year of experience
- really struggled against blitz/pressure pulling eyes off downfield
- can get sloppy with mechanics, especially under any pressure
- seems a bit slow on reads at times and can stare down target
- in my opinion needed to stay for his last year, got a ways to go to start in NFL
- not a great runner
- will try to over muscle the ball while not setting feet resulting in poor throws 


Boom or bust prospect with great potential but really needs to sit a couple of years as he’s pretty raw yet. Again, should have stayed I School.
NFL comparisons: Joe Flacco or he gets it together    2nd-3rd round grade

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Justin Herbert:


+ outstanding arm talent - flat footed 62 yard throw at pro day
+ very athletic, can hurt you on the move both throwing and running
+ cerebral, works progressions standing tall, reads defenses has a plan
+ excellent against pressure 11 tds to 0 picks against the blitz
+ quick throwing process, keeps very good balance and has quick feet like a much smaller guy. 
+ clear development curve, improving
+ can adjust his arm to whatever angle is needed to get the ball out on target.
+ Well suited for a vertical passing attack
+ excellent deep accuracy
+ can hit ridiculously small windows. Even the toughest NFL throws
+ outstanding play action - better than many pros

• Played primarily in the pistol, NFL concepts but will be an adjustment, Duck offense was a poor fit for his skillset, wr’s were not very good but bonus for getting used to NFL windows
• Shows some issues putting touch on the ball, too much juice
• Inconsistent ball placement. Throws open great, but gets behind on shorter passes
• Does a ball spin after getting the snap. Slows his ability to get the ball out on quick hitters which leads to rushed off target throws
• Needs to learn to throw without the laces if needed on quick hitters
• Will need to learn to put more loft on the ball at next level to keep defenders hands off the ball
• Although he’s awesome in the face of pressure, he hangs in too long at times when he should have bailed.
• His future could be very dependent on the situation he lands in.
• Shouldn’t start year one, best served learning

Overall, Herbert is one of the better prospects I’ve ever reviewed, hence the more in depth analysis. He has all the tools, but needs more seasoning. Reportedly didn’t have QB coaching during HS. Didn’t attend a football QB camp until well into college. Biggest question mark for me is how he handles adversity/mental makeup. 


NFL Comparison: Aaron Rodgers.        Top 10 talent 

• if he falls like Rodgers, I expect we’ll pass and take Erasmus James again. 

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@Havoc1649 said:
My thoughts on Fromm after 5 game tapes:
+ good poise in the pocket 
+ appears to do a good job working through progressions
+ takes care of the ball/makes smart decisions
+ seems to have good knowledge of what he’s looking at in terms of the defense
+ probably the most pro ready of the QB’s I’ve watched so far


- average to below average arm talent for NFL . Will have to be efficient with timing
- can send out a wobbler towards the end of the 25-35 yard flatter throws
- accuracy went down the past year despite stacked team
- not mobile at all, appears very limited athletically
- although I like his quick compact throwing motion, his lower body doesn’t always match which in my opinion robs him of velocity. I don’t see this improving much as it should have by now
Comparison: Andy Dalton   3rd-4th round grade 

That's the thing I noticed too: lack of anything being generated from the trunk when he throws.

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@Havoc1649 said:
While I’m at it I’ll hit a few more.

Jordan Love:
+ big strong build will serve him well at the next level
+ great athleticism allows for plays running or scrambling to throw
+ appears confident and driven
+ excellent arm talent and can make all the NFL throws 
+ can stick the ball into NFL windows
+ dual threat capability


- spotty accuracy especially on deeper throws
- significant drop in overall performance between 2018 - 2019
- locks on and stares down target far too often
- especially on deeper throws has slower time consuming mechanics at times
- not consistent in 2019 resulted in a ton of picks, pick six machine
- questionable decision making
- appears very limited reading the field


A true boom/bust prospect that has a ways to go to be an NFL QB. Top 10 in the draft physical tools but needs to sit a couple of years. Should have stayed in school.
Comparison: Jake Locker or Josh Allen (more recent) 2nd - 4th round grade

Awesome breakdowns!
Do you think a coach (probably not our coach) can turn Love into Lamar Jackson-lite?
Sit him for a year, or most of one, and tailor a productive offense around him in year 2? Or is Lamar's running ability too elite to even comp anyone to?

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Rick Sosa

@sosarick

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Vikings showing interest in the college version of Kirk Cousins.. could they draft Jake Fromm in the 3rd round and have a clone backup? #NFLDraft2020

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Didn't Georgia have like 1 experienced WR (that was hurt a lot) and a bunch of Freshman Receivers for Fromm to throw to this last season? I take issue with the comment about him being on a 'stacked' team. Maybe on O-Line and RB. And Kicker. Certainly not at WR.