Quote: @"JimmyinSD" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Jor-El" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
This is beyond frustrating. Year after year this team seems to scramble for table scraps and others leftovers to fill a vital unit. Going back to 2002 McKinnie we have since drafted 1 offensive lineman in round 1. This is Rick's problem now but it's a Viking thing long before him.
Let's keep changing QB's and drafting WR's in the 1st round but wonder why the offense just doesn't sustain. Year 2 for our latest QB. That in itself is a rarity almost. Looks like we are at least one more year from being able to address this for Kirk. Will we or be looking for another QB to not protect after year 3.
I'm afraid it's going to be a long year. Really more so a short one again. I was feeling alot better this time last year.
It is feeling like the last year before a major housecleaning, unfortunately.
thats the feeling I am getting, there is talent on the team no doubt, but that talent isnt spread around enough. we have so many tier 1 players that we cant afford even tier 3 players at the other spots including backups. we will make a run, come up short once again and the Wilfs will either blow it up.... or continue to allow the same thing...neither of which is promising IMO.
We have a layer of top talent with nothing behind it - it's why we suffer so greatly when anyone gets hurt, and every year end up saying things like, "Waah we should have won those 2 games when Rhodes was hurt, and the 4 games where Cook was hurt..."
I know the easy explanation for our salary cap troubles is Cousins, but other teams have expensive QBs and still have cap space - Packers, Lions, Saints, Falcons all had or have space to add players. But those teams don't have 8 veteran defensive players using up $80M in cap space.
Some people don't believe in planning for windows of seasons to compete, but it's hard to avoid in the post-cap NFL. I think the Vikings paid their defensive core for a window, but it was roughly 2016-18, and it's closed or closing. Now they should be selectively letting some leave and retooling. But I don't think Zimmer can do that - maybe if he was starting with a blank slate like in 2014, but not with a group he's attached to.
or find a QB that doesnt have his head up his ass like Brady.. the dude gets it... a QB can cash in short term and be a flash in the pan as the team around his monster contract suffers... or take a bit less money and make sure the team you are playing with is better talented across the board. the huge defensive salaries are very similar and IMO we should be looking to replace those big dollar contracts (regardlesss of name) as soon as a suitable replacement is available. it doesnt have to be an equal level talent, but somebody that plays at a higher level for less money. Its apparent that the myth of being able to afford Cousins and the Defense and still field a team is just that .. a myth.
Yeah I get that. People really need to stop comparing any other organization to New England. They do things others simply can't. Either just that much more brilliant or way more crooked. I have no allusions that Brady is sacrificing anything financially. They have a secret hand shake deal to take care of him once he's off the books.
They are like family. A mafia family. They all got too much dirt on each other to ever rat.
regardless of how they do it... Brady doesnt let ego get in the way... the rest of these guys its all about ego and wanting the biggest contract... and its that greed that is killing their chances of success. honestly the best plan IMO would be to keep drafting high round QBs to make sure you always have quality on deck...if the current starter wants to break the bank.... send him packing, should net a first round pick if hes worth a shit and then next man up. the athleticism of the league is gotten to high to let the QB be eating such a huge amount of the cap space each year.
However they do it I doubt it would work in New England spending a high pick every year on his replacement. The only replacement I ever really remember Brady was rumored to have run off. For less then the 1st they drafted him for. Brady get it all right. I'm saying if how he gets it is on the up and up.
Ok now it's my jealousy showing. They can't be that good and not be somehow cheating.
Quote: @"suncoastvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Jor-El" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
This is beyond frustrating. Year after year this team seems to scramble for table scraps and others leftovers to fill a vital unit. Going back to 2002 McKinnie we have since drafted 1 offensive lineman in round 1. This is Rick's problem now but it's a Viking thing long before him.
Let's keep changing QB's and drafting WR's in the 1st round but wonder why the offense just doesn't sustain. Year 2 for our latest QB. That in itself is a rarity almost. Looks like we are at least one more year from being able to address this for Kirk. Will we or be looking for another QB to not protect after year 3.
I'm afraid it's going to be a long year. Really more so a short one again. I was feeling alot better this time last year.
It is feeling like the last year before a major housecleaning, unfortunately.
thats the feeling I am getting, there is talent on the team no doubt, but that talent isnt spread around enough. we have so many tier 1 players that we cant afford even tier 3 players at the other spots including backups. we will make a run, come up short once again and the Wilfs will either blow it up.... or continue to allow the same thing...neither of which is promising IMO.
We have a layer of top talent with nothing behind it - it's why we suffer so greatly when anyone gets hurt, and every year end up saying things like, "Waah we should have won those 2 games when Rhodes was hurt, and the 4 games where Cook was hurt..."
I know the easy explanation for our salary cap troubles is Cousins, but other teams have expensive QBs and still have cap space - Packers, Lions, Saints, Falcons all had or have space to add players. But those teams don't have 8 veteran defensive players using up $80M in cap space.
Some people don't believe in planning for windows of seasons to compete, but it's hard to avoid in the post-cap NFL. I think the Vikings paid their defensive core for a window, but it was roughly 2016-18, and it's closed or closing. Now they should be selectively letting some leave and retooling. But I don't think Zimmer can do that - maybe if he was starting with a blank slate like in 2014, but not with a group he's attached to.
or find a QB that doesnt have his head up his ass like Brady.. the dude gets it... a QB can cash in short term and be a flash in the pan as the team around his monster contract suffers... or take a bit less money and make sure the team you are playing with is better talented across the board. the huge defensive salaries are very similar and IMO we should be looking to replace those big dollar contracts (regardlesss of name) as soon as a suitable replacement is available. it doesnt have to be an equal level talent, but somebody that plays at a higher level for less money. Its apparent that the myth of being able to afford Cousins and the Defense and still field a team is just that .. a myth.
Yeah I get that. People really need to stop comparing any other organization to New England. They do things others simply can't. Either just that much more brilliant or way more crooked. I have no allusions that Brady is sacrificing anything financially. They have a secret hand shake deal to take care of him once he's off the books.
They are like family. A mafia family. They all got too much dirt on each other to ever rat.
regardless of how they do it... Brady doesnt let ego get in the way... the rest of these guys its all about ego and wanting the biggest contract... and its that greed that is killing their chances of success. honestly the best plan IMO would be to keep drafting high round QBs to make sure you always have quality on deck...if the current starter wants to break the bank.... send him packing, should net a first round pick if hes worth a shit and then next man up. the athleticism of the league is gotten to high to let the QB be eating such a huge amount of the cap space each year.
However they do it I doubt it would work in New England spending a high pick every year on his replacement. The only replacement I ever really remember Brady was rumored to have run off. For less then the 1st they drafted him for. Brady get it all right. I'm saying if how he gets it is on the up and up.
Ok now it's my jealousy showing. They can't be that good and not be somehow cheating.
IMO-Brady is playing for his legacy.... he knows his wife is worth like a quarter billion and his net worth is pretty stellar as well.... but he really wants records and that comes from keeping the team relevent and if he is holding the team hostage over salary they will either move on from him or not be able to keep quality around him.
Quote: @"JimmyinSD" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Jor-El" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
This is beyond frustrating. Year after year this team seems to scramble for table scraps and others leftovers to fill a vital unit. Going back to 2002 McKinnie we have since drafted 1 offensive lineman in round 1. This is Rick's problem now but it's a Viking thing long before him.
Let's keep changing QB's and drafting WR's in the 1st round but wonder why the offense just doesn't sustain. Year 2 for our latest QB. That in itself is a rarity almost. Looks like we are at least one more year from being able to address this for Kirk. Will we or be looking for another QB to not protect after year 3.
I'm afraid it's going to be a long year. Really more so a short one again. I was feeling alot better this time last year.
It is feeling like the last year before a major housecleaning, unfortunately.
thats the feeling I am getting, there is talent on the team no doubt, but that talent isnt spread around enough. we have so many tier 1 players that we cant afford even tier 3 players at the other spots including backups. we will make a run, come up short once again and the Wilfs will either blow it up.... or continue to allow the same thing...neither of which is promising IMO.
We have a layer of top talent with nothing behind it - it's why we suffer so greatly when anyone gets hurt, and every year end up saying things like, "Waah we should have won those 2 games when Rhodes was hurt, and the 4 games where Cook was hurt..."
I know the easy explanation for our salary cap troubles is Cousins, but other teams have expensive QBs and still have cap space - Packers, Lions, Saints, Falcons all had or have space to add players. But those teams don't have 8 veteran defensive players using up $80M in cap space.
Some people don't believe in planning for windows of seasons to compete, but it's hard to avoid in the post-cap NFL. I think the Vikings paid their defensive core for a window, but it was roughly 2016-18, and it's closed or closing. Now they should be selectively letting some leave and retooling. But I don't think Zimmer can do that - maybe if he was starting with a blank slate like in 2014, but not with a group he's attached to.
or find a QB that doesnt have his head up his ass like Brady.. the dude gets it... a QB can cash in short term and be a flash in the pan as the team around his monster contract suffers... or take a bit less money and make sure the team you are playing with is better talented across the board. the huge defensive salaries are very similar and IMO we should be looking to replace those big dollar contracts (regardlesss of name) as soon as a suitable replacement is available. it doesnt have to be an equal level talent, but somebody that plays at a higher level for less money. Its apparent that the myth of being able to afford Cousins and the Defense and still field a team is just that .. a myth.
Yeah I get that. People really need to stop comparing any other organization to New England. They do things others simply can't. Either just that much more brilliant or way more crooked. I have no allusions that Brady is sacrificing anything financially. They have a secret hand shake deal to take care of him once he's off the books.
They are like family. A mafia family. They all got too much dirt on each other to ever rat.
regardless of how they do it... Brady doesnt let ego get in the way... the rest of these guys its all about ego and wanting the biggest contract... and its that greed that is killing their chances of success. honestly the best plan IMO would be to keep drafting high round QBs to make sure you always have quality on deck...if the current starter wants to break the bank.... send him packing, should net a first round pick if hes worth a shit and then next man up. the athleticism of the league is gotten to high to let the QB be eating such a huge amount of the cap space each year.
However they do it I doubt it would work in New England spending a high pick every year on his replacement. The only replacement I ever really remember Brady was rumored to have run off. For less then the 1st they drafted him for. Brady get it all right. I'm saying if how he gets it is on the up and up.
Ok now it's my jealousy showing. They can't be that good and not be somehow cheating.
IMO-Brady is playing for his legacy.... he knows his wife is worth like a quarter billion and his net worth is pretty stellar as well.... but he really wants records and that comes from keeping the team relevent and if he is holding the team hostage over salary they will either move on from him or not be able to keep quality around him.
Also, allowing his team to have enough money to pay for protection around him has had a lot more to do with being able to play past age 40 than not eating strawberries.
Quote: @"Jor-El" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Jor-El" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
This is beyond frustrating. Year after year this team seems to scramble for table scraps and others leftovers to fill a vital unit. Going back to 2002 McKinnie we have since drafted 1 offensive lineman in round 1. This is Rick's problem now but it's a Viking thing long before him.
Let's keep changing QB's and drafting WR's in the 1st round but wonder why the offense just doesn't sustain. Year 2 for our latest QB. That in itself is a rarity almost. Looks like we are at least one more year from being able to address this for Kirk. Will we or be looking for another QB to not protect after year 3.
I'm afraid it's going to be a long year. Really more so a short one again. I was feeling alot better this time last year.
It is feeling like the last year before a major housecleaning, unfortunately.
thats the feeling I am getting, there is talent on the team no doubt, but that talent isnt spread around enough. we have so many tier 1 players that we cant afford even tier 3 players at the other spots including backups. we will make a run, come up short once again and the Wilfs will either blow it up.... or continue to allow the same thing...neither of which is promising IMO.
We have a layer of top talent with nothing behind it - it's why we suffer so greatly when anyone gets hurt, and every year end up saying things like, "Waah we should have won those 2 games when Rhodes was hurt, and the 4 games where Cook was hurt..."
I know the easy explanation for our salary cap troubles is Cousins, but other teams have expensive QBs and still have cap space - Packers, Lions, Saints, Falcons all had or have space to add players. But those teams don't have 8 veteran defensive players using up $80M in cap space.
Some people don't believe in planning for windows of seasons to compete, but it's hard to avoid in the post-cap NFL. I think the Vikings paid their defensive core for a window, but it was roughly 2016-18, and it's closed or closing. Now they should be selectively letting some leave and retooling. But I don't think Zimmer can do that - maybe if he was starting with a blank slate like in 2014, but not with a group he's attached to.
or find a QB that doesnt have his head up his ass like Brady.. the dude gets it... a QB can cash in short term and be a flash in the pan as the team around his monster contract suffers... or take a bit less money and make sure the team you are playing with is better talented across the board. the huge defensive salaries are very similar and IMO we should be looking to replace those big dollar contracts (regardlesss of name) as soon as a suitable replacement is available. it doesnt have to be an equal level talent, but somebody that plays at a higher level for less money. Its apparent that the myth of being able to afford Cousins and the Defense and still field a team is just that .. a myth.
Yeah I get that. People really need to stop comparing any other organization to New England. They do things others simply can't. Either just that much more brilliant or way more crooked. I have no allusions that Brady is sacrificing anything financially. They have a secret hand shake deal to take care of him once he's off the books.
They are like family. A mafia family. They all got too much dirt on each other to ever rat.
regardless of how they do it... Brady doesnt let ego get in the way... the rest of these guys its all about ego and wanting the biggest contract... and its that greed that is killing their chances of success. honestly the best plan IMO would be to keep drafting high round QBs to make sure you always have quality on deck...if the current starter wants to break the bank.... send him packing, should net a first round pick if hes worth a shit and then next man up. the athleticism of the league is gotten to high to let the QB be eating such a huge amount of the cap space each year.
However they do it I doubt it would work in New England spending a high pick every year on his replacement. The only replacement I ever really remember Brady was rumored to have run off. For less then the 1st they drafted him for. Brady get it all right. I'm saying if how he gets it is on the up and up.
Ok now it's my jealousy showing. They can't be that good and not be somehow cheating.
IMO-Brady is playing for his legacy.... he knows his wife is worth like a quarter billion and his net worth is pretty stellar as well.... but he really wants records and that comes from keeping the team relevent and if he is holding the team hostage over salary they will either move on from him or not be able to keep quality around him.
Also, allowing his team to have enough money to pay for protection around him has had a lot more to do with being able to play past age 40 than not eating strawberries.
Hahaha, very true!
Quote: @"Jor-El" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"Jor-El" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
This is beyond frustrating. Year after year this team seems to scramble for table scraps and others leftovers to fill a vital unit. Going back to 2002 McKinnie we have since drafted 1 offensive lineman in round 1. This is Rick's problem now but it's a Viking thing long before him.
Let's keep changing QB's and drafting WR's in the 1st round but wonder why the offense just doesn't sustain. Year 2 for our latest QB. That in itself is a rarity almost. Looks like we are at least one more year from being able to address this for Kirk. Will we or be looking for another QB to not protect after year 3.
I'm afraid it's going to be a long year. Really more so a short one again. I was feeling alot better this time last year.
It is feeling like the last year before a major housecleaning, unfortunately.
thats the feeling I am getting, there is talent on the team no doubt, but that talent isnt spread around enough. we have so many tier 1 players that we cant afford even tier 3 players at the other spots including backups. we will make a run, come up short once again and the Wilfs will either blow it up.... or continue to allow the same thing...neither of which is promising IMO.
We have a layer of top talent with nothing behind it - it's why we suffer so greatly when anyone gets hurt, and every year end up saying things like, "Waah we should have won those 2 games when Rhodes was hurt, and the 4 games where Cook was hurt..."
I know the easy explanation for our salary cap troubles is Cousins, but other teams have expensive QBs and still have cap space - Packers, Lions, Saints, Falcons all had or have space to add players. But those teams don't have 8 veteran defensive players using up $80M in cap space.
Some people don't believe in planning for windows of seasons to compete, but it's hard to avoid in the post-cap NFL. I think the Vikings paid their defensive core for a window, but it was roughly 2016-18, and it's closed or closing. Now they should be selectively letting some leave and retooling. But I don't think Zimmer can do that - maybe if he was starting with a blank slate like in 2014, but not with a group he's attached to.
or find a QB that doesnt have his head up his ass like Brady.. the dude gets it... a QB can cash in short term and be a flash in the pan as the team around his monster contract suffers... or take a bit less money and make sure the team you are playing with is better talented across the board. the huge defensive salaries are very similar and IMO we should be looking to replace those big dollar contracts (regardlesss of name) as soon as a suitable replacement is available. it doesnt have to be an equal level talent, but somebody that plays at a higher level for less money. Its apparent that the myth of being able to afford Cousins and the Defense and still field a team is just that .. a myth.
Yeah I get that. People really need to stop comparing any other organization to New England. They do things others simply can't. Either just that much more brilliant or way more crooked. I have no allusions that Brady is sacrificing anything financially. They have a secret hand shake deal to take care of him once he's off the books.
They are like family. A mafia family. They all got too much dirt on each other to ever rat.
regardless of how they do it... Brady doesnt let ego get in the way... the rest of these guys its all about ego and wanting the biggest contract... and its that greed that is killing their chances of success. honestly the best plan IMO would be to keep drafting high round QBs to make sure you always have quality on deck...if the current starter wants to break the bank.... send him packing, should net a first round pick if hes worth a shit and then next man up. the athleticism of the league is gotten to high to let the QB be eating such a huge amount of the cap space each year.
However they do it I doubt it would work in New England spending a high pick every year on his replacement. The only replacement I ever really remember Brady was rumored to have run off. For less then the 1st they drafted him for. Brady get it all right. I'm saying if how he gets it is on the up and up.
Ok now it's my jealousy showing. They can't be that good and not be somehow cheating.
IMO-Brady is playing for his legacy.... he knows his wife is worth like a quarter billion and his net worth is pretty stellar as well.... but he really wants records and that comes from keeping the team relevent and if he is holding the team hostage over salary they will either move on from him or not be able to keep quality around him.
Also, allowing his team to have enough money to pay for protection around him has had a lot more to do with being able to play past age 40 than not eating strawberries.
Hence playing for his legacy.
Quote: @"Jor-El" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
This is beyond frustrating. Year after year this team seems to scramble for table scraps and others leftovers to fill a vital unit. Going back to 2002 McKinnie we have since drafted 1 offensive lineman in round 1. This is Rick's problem now but it's a Viking thing long before him.
Let's keep changing QB's and drafting WR's in the 1st round but wonder why the offense just doesn't sustain. Year 2 for our latest QB. That in itself is a rarity almost. Looks like we are at least one more year from being able to address this for Kirk. Will we or be looking for another QB to not protect after year 3.
I'm afraid it's going to be a long year. Really more so a short one again. I was feeling alot better this time last year.
It is feeling like the last year before a major housecleaning, unfortunately.
thats the feeling I am getting, there is talent on the team no doubt, but that talent isnt spread around enough. we have so many tier 1 players that we cant afford even tier 3 players at the other spots including backups. we will make a run, come up short once again and the Wilfs will either blow it up.... or continue to allow the same thing...neither of which is promising IMO.
We have a layer of top talent with nothing behind it - it's why we suffer so greatly when anyone gets hurt, and every year end up saying things like, "Waah we should have won those 2 games when Rhodes was hurt, and the 4 games where Cook was hurt..."
I know the easy explanation for our salary cap troubles is Cousins, but other teams have expensive QBs and still have cap space - Packers, Lions, Saints, Falcons all had or have space to add players. But those teams don't have 8 veteran defensive players using up $80M in cap space.
Some people don't believe in planning for windows of seasons to compete, but it's hard to avoid in the post-cap NFL. I think the Vikings paid their defensive core for a window, but it was roughly 2016-18, and it's closed or closing. Now they should be selectively letting some leave and retooling. But I don't think Zimmer can do that - maybe if he was starting with a blank slate like in 2014, but not with a group he's attached to.
The saints having cap room is a charade. Brees is going to count like $40m+ against their cap next year on or off the team is what Ive read.
Quote: @"AGRforever" said:
@"Jor-El" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
This is beyond frustrating. Year after year this team seems to scramble for table scraps and others leftovers to fill a vital unit. Going back to 2002 McKinnie we have since drafted 1 offensive lineman in round 1. This is Rick's problem now but it's a Viking thing long before him.
Let's keep changing QB's and drafting WR's in the 1st round but wonder why the offense just doesn't sustain. Year 2 for our latest QB. That in itself is a rarity almost. Looks like we are at least one more year from being able to address this for Kirk. Will we or be looking for another QB to not protect after year 3.
I'm afraid it's going to be a long year. Really more so a short one again. I was feeling alot better this time last year.
It is feeling like the last year before a major housecleaning, unfortunately.
thats the feeling I am getting, there is talent on the team no doubt, but that talent isnt spread around enough. we have so many tier 1 players that we cant afford even tier 3 players at the other spots including backups. we will make a run, come up short once again and the Wilfs will either blow it up.... or continue to allow the same thing...neither of which is promising IMO.
We have a layer of top talent with nothing behind it - it's why we suffer so greatly when anyone gets hurt, and every year end up saying things like, "Waah we should have won those 2 games when Rhodes was hurt, and the 4 games where Cook was hurt..."
I know the easy explanation for our salary cap troubles is Cousins, but other teams have expensive QBs and still have cap space - Packers, Lions, Saints, Falcons all had or have space to add players. But those teams don't have 8 veteran defensive players using up $80M in cap space.
Some people don't believe in planning for windows of seasons to compete, but it's hard to avoid in the post-cap NFL. I think the Vikings paid their defensive core for a window, but it was roughly 2016-18, and it's closed or closing. Now they should be selectively letting some leave and retooling. But I don't think Zimmer can do that - maybe if he was starting with a blank slate like in 2014, but not with a group he's attached to.
The saints having cap room is a charade. Brees is going to count like $40m+ against their cap next year on or off the team is what Ive read.
I doubt payton sticks around after Brees leaves and all the receipts become due)
What's telling is this happened what, 2 days ago? And nobody on the board gives a shit how it went, including me.
Quote: @"kmillard" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
@"Jor-El" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
This is beyond frustrating. Year after year this team seems to scramble for table scraps and others leftovers to fill a vital unit. Going back to 2002 McKinnie we have since drafted 1 offensive lineman in round 1. This is Rick's problem now but it's a Viking thing long before him.
Let's keep changing QB's and drafting WR's in the 1st round but wonder why the offense just doesn't sustain. Year 2 for our latest QB. That in itself is a rarity almost. Looks like we are at least one more year from being able to address this for Kirk. Will we or be looking for another QB to not protect after year 3.
I'm afraid it's going to be a long year. Really more so a short one again. I was feeling alot better this time last year.
It is feeling like the last year before a major housecleaning, unfortunately.
thats the feeling I am getting, there is talent on the team no doubt, but that talent isnt spread around enough. we have so many tier 1 players that we cant afford even tier 3 players at the other spots including backups. we will make a run, come up short once again and the Wilfs will either blow it up.... or continue to allow the same thing...neither of which is promising IMO.
We have a layer of top talent with nothing behind it - it's why we suffer so greatly when anyone gets hurt, and every year end up saying things like, "Waah we should have won those 2 games when Rhodes was hurt, and the 4 games where Cook was hurt..."
I know the easy explanation for our salary cap troubles is Cousins, but other teams have expensive QBs and still have cap space - Packers, Lions, Saints, Falcons all had or have space to add players. But those teams don't have 8 veteran defensive players using up $80M in cap space.
Some people don't believe in planning for windows of seasons to compete, but it's hard to avoid in the post-cap NFL. I think the Vikings paid their defensive core for a window, but it was roughly 2016-18, and it's closed or closing. Now they should be selectively letting some leave and retooling. But I don't think Zimmer can do that - maybe if he was starting with a blank slate like in 2014, but not with a group he's attached to.
The saints having cap room is a charade. Brees is going to count like $40m+ against their cap next year on or off the team is what Ive read.
I doubt payton sticks around after Brees leaves and all the receipts become due)
Rumors won't go away that Peyton is going to be the coach of the Cowboys down the road...
Quote: @"purplefaithful" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"AGRforever" said:
@"Jor-El" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"kmillard" said:
@"suncoastvike" said:
This is beyond frustrating. Year after year this team seems to scramble for table scraps and others leftovers to fill a vital unit. Going back to 2002 McKinnie we have since drafted 1 offensive lineman in round 1. This is Rick's problem now but it's a Viking thing long before him.
Let's keep changing QB's and drafting WR's in the 1st round but wonder why the offense just doesn't sustain. Year 2 for our latest QB. That in itself is a rarity almost. Looks like we are at least one more year from being able to address this for Kirk. Will we or be looking for another QB to not protect after year 3.
I'm afraid it's going to be a long year. Really more so a short one again. I was feeling alot better this time last year.
It is feeling like the last year before a major housecleaning, unfortunately.
thats the feeling I am getting, there is talent on the team no doubt, but that talent isnt spread around enough. we have so many tier 1 players that we cant afford even tier 3 players at the other spots including backups. we will make a run, come up short once again and the Wilfs will either blow it up.... or continue to allow the same thing...neither of which is promising IMO.
We have a layer of top talent with nothing behind it - it's why we suffer so greatly when anyone gets hurt, and every year end up saying things like, "Waah we should have won those 2 games when Rhodes was hurt, and the 4 games where Cook was hurt..."
I know the easy explanation for our salary cap troubles is Cousins, but other teams have expensive QBs and still have cap space - Packers, Lions, Saints, Falcons all had or have space to add players. But those teams don't have 8 veteran defensive players using up $80M in cap space.
Some people don't believe in planning for windows of seasons to compete, but it's hard to avoid in the post-cap NFL. I think the Vikings paid their defensive core for a window, but it was roughly 2016-18, and it's closed or closing. Now they should be selectively letting some leave and retooling. But I don't think Zimmer can do that - maybe if he was starting with a blank slate like in 2014, but not with a group he's attached to.
The saints having cap room is a charade. Brees is going to count like $40m+ against their cap next year on or off the team is what Ive read.
I doubt payton sticks around after Brees leaves and all the receipts become due)
Rumors won't go away that Peyton is going to be the coach of the Cowboys down the road...
It wouldn't surprise me because when Brees leaves, the whole dynamic of the team will change. Payton knows this. Good time for a job change right at that time for him. 2019 is an all-in year for the Saints and they'll swing for the fences after 2 hard-to-swallow playoff endings the last couple of seasons.
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