Quote: @ArizonaViking said:
@ prairieghost said:
@ dadevike said:
Compton and Isidora starting at the guard spots. Remmers at tackle. Coley and Robertson left with injuries - Coley's does not appear to be serious. Don't know about Robertson. Barr will not be attending OTAs.
So, can it be assumed this is a contract thing?
If so, I'm not surprised. I think Barr thinks he's the second coming of Von Miller. He is not. Maybe he's a little miffed that Kendricks got a new deal before he did...or maybe I'm just chucking a handful of @&%# at the wall to see what sticks...
From what I read, Barr wants a contract extension...Now! He probably wants to get ahead of Diggs and Hunter while there's money still on the books.
Probably. But I also think he's 3rd on that list. You don't give a QB 84M guaranteed and then take away one of his best weapons. Pass rushers like Hunter are gold, especially considering the age of Robison and Griffen. He's not going anywhere.
I love Anthony Barr, my son has his jersey, but I think he plays a position that is easier replaced than a star receiver and a pass rusher. Not sure what the Vikings are going to do with this one, but I fear this contract thing could turn into a year of pouting and half effort.
Wouldn’t a Barr extension today actually improve our cap situation of approximately $17 million dollars. His extension could allow us to pick up enough cash to extend Diggs and maybe Hunter this offseason
Quote: @Skodin said:
Wouldn’t a Barr extension today actually improve our cap situation of approximately $17 million dollars. His extension could allow us to pick up enough cash to extend Diggs and maybe Hunter this offseason
Thats a very interesting question. I look forward to an answer of that.
I wonder if the Vikings may flirt with Mychal Kendricks while they are negotiating with Barr. They are not the same type of player, but even so, Kendricks+Kendricks is a lot more palatable than Kendricks+Gedeon.
Quote: @dadevike said:
Compton and Isidora starting at the guard spots. Remmers at tackle. Coley and Robertson left with injuries - Coley's does not appear to be serious. Don't know about Robertson. Barr will not be attending OTAs.
Isadora at LG or RG?
Quote: @Skodin said:
Wouldn’t a Barr extension today actually improve our cap situation of approximately $17 million dollars. His extension could allow us to pick up enough cash to extend Diggs and maybe Hunter this offseason
I suppose it all depends on what he is expecting his new deal to look like? he is scheduled to make about 12 million this year, but if he fancies himself as a 14 million a year guy then no its unlikely that he would restructure for much less than what he is scheduled to currently make unless they get crazy with the guaranteed money which based on his performance history to date would be pretty scary.
Quote: @Jor-El said:
@ dadevike said:
Compton and Isidora starting at the guard spots. Remmers at tackle. Coley and Robertson left with injuries - Coley's does not appear to be serious. Don't know about Robertson. Barr will not be attending OTAs.
Isadora at LG or RG?
Isadora at LG
Compton at RG
Quote: @prairieghost said:
@ dadevike said:
Compton and Isidora starting at the guard spots. Remmers at tackle. Coley and Robertson left with injuries - Coley's does not appear to be serious. Don't know about Robertson. Barr will not be attending OTAs.
So, can it be assumed this is a contract thing?
If so, I'm not surprised. I think Barr thinks he's the second coming of Von Miller. He is not. Maybe he's a little miffed that Kendricks got a new deal before he did...or maybe I'm just chucking a handful of @&%# at the wall to see what sticks...
No, Barr isn't Von Miller. But he plays a position which is arguably more complex and less likely to generate gaudy stats. His physical potential might be near Miller's if he was in the same role. My concern is that Barr and his agent might believe that if he can get to free agency, he can sign a one-year deal with a 3-4 team and become a big-stats pass rusher, then hit free agency again in 2020 at age 28 and sign a huge deal. There are a lot of "ifs" there, but young athletes usually believe they are able to beat the odds.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Probably. But I also think he's 3rd on that list. You don't give a QB 84M guaranteed and then take away one of his best weapons. Pass rushers like Hunter are gold, especially considering the age of Robison and Griffen. He's not going anywhere.
I love Anthony Barr, my son has his jersey, but I think he plays a position that is easier replaced than a star receiver and a pass rusher. Not sure what the Vikings are going to do with this one, but I fear this contract thing could turn into a year of pouting and half effort.
Star receivers ARE hard to replace!! Makes me really glad Adam Thielen is under contract for the next few years so we don't have to worry about it yet..
Seriously, I just don't see enough cap space to make Barr, Diggs, and Hunter all happy. Two of them, yes, but not 3. If it were up to me, I would make Diggs the third priority. But we all have our own perspectives on this.
Quote: @Jor-El said:
@ prairieghost said:
@ dadevike said:
Compton and Isidora starting at the guard spots. Remmers at tackle. Coley and Robertson left with injuries - Coley's does not appear to be serious. Don't know about Robertson. Barr will not be attending OTAs.
So, can it be assumed this is a contract thing?
If so, I'm not surprised. I think Barr thinks he's the second coming of Von Miller. He is not. Maybe he's a little miffed that Kendricks got a new deal before he did...or maybe I'm just chucking a handful of @&%# at the wall to see what sticks...
No, Barr isn't Von Miller. But he plays a position which is arguably more complex and less likely to generate gaudy stats. His physical potential might be near Miller's if he was in the same role. My concern is that Barr and his agent might believe that if he can get to free agency, he can sign a one-year deal with a 3-4 team and become a big-stats pass rusher, then hit free agency again in 2020 at age 28 and sign a huge deal. There are a lot of "ifs" there, but young athletes usually believe they are able to beat the odds.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Probably. But I also think he's 3rd on that list. You don't give a QB 84M guaranteed and then take away one of his best weapons. Pass rushers like Hunter are gold, especially considering the age of Robison and Griffen. He's not going anywhere.
I love Anthony Barr, my son has his jersey, but I think he plays a position that is easier replaced than a star receiver and a pass rusher. Not sure what the Vikings are going to do with this one, but I fear this contract thing could turn into a year of pouting and half effort.
Star receivers ARE hard to replace!! Makes me really glad Adam Thielen is under contract for the next few years so we don't have to worry about it yet..
Seriously, I just don't see enough cap space to make Barr, Diggs, and Hunter all happy. Two of them, yes, but not 3. If it were up to me, I would make Diggs the third priority. But we all have our own perspectives on this.
Barring injury, this is the year that Diggs makes everyone appreciate just how good he really is.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ Jor-El said:
@ prairieghost said:
@ dadevike said:
Compton and Isidora starting at the guard spots. Remmers at tackle. Coley and Robertson left with injuries - Coley's does not appear to be serious. Don't know about Robertson. Barr will not be attending OTAs.
So, can it be assumed this is a contract thing?
If so, I'm not surprised. I think Barr thinks he's the second coming of Von Miller. He is not. Maybe he's a little miffed that Kendricks got a new deal before he did...or maybe I'm just chucking a handful of @&%# at the wall to see what sticks...
No, Barr isn't Von Miller. But he plays a position which is arguably more complex and less likely to generate gaudy stats. His physical potential might be near Miller's if he was in the same role. My concern is that Barr and his agent might believe that if he can get to free agency, he can sign a one-year deal with a 3-4 team and become a big-stats pass rusher, then hit free agency again in 2020 at age 28 and sign a huge deal. There are a lot of "ifs" there, but young athletes usually believe they are able to beat the odds.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Probably. But I also think he's 3rd on that list. You don't give a QB 84M guaranteed and then take away one of his best weapons. Pass rushers like Hunter are gold, especially considering the age of Robison and Griffen. He's not going anywhere.
I love Anthony Barr, my son has his jersey, but I think he plays a position that is easier replaced than a star receiver and a pass rusher. Not sure what the Vikings are going to do with this one, but I fear this contract thing could turn into a year of pouting and half effort.
Star receivers ARE hard to replace!! Makes me really glad Adam Thielen is under contract for the next few years so we don't have to worry about it yet..
Seriously, I just don't see enough cap space to make Barr, Diggs, and Hunter all happy. Two of them, yes, but not 3. If it were up to me, I would make Diggs the third priority. But we all have our own perspectives on this.
Barring injury, this is the year that Diggs makes everyone appreciate just how good he really is.
in fairness.... barring injury seems to be what has hampered his efforts thus far. I am not holding my breath that this is the year that he breaks that streak. he is a phenomenal talent, but he leaves himself exposed at times to big hits and his frame doesnt seem to handle them well.
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