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The Martyr Kirk
#21
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
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Saw that yesterday.  Is it really a Canada Goose?  We've always said Canadian Goose? Or more often a Canadian honker. 
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#22
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
[Image: 0y5xh6nmghq4.jpeg]

Saw that yesterday.  Is it really a Canada Goose?  We've always said Canadian Goose? Or more often a Canadian honker. 
We have always said Canadian geese. Interesting.
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#23
at some point can we just be done with these pointless threads on the football side... they arent football and certainly dont stay away from politics religion or other,  so why?
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#24
Quote: @VikingOracle said:
I am vaccinated and I consider myself a liberal.  Just putting that forward because I think Kirk is in a novel situation given the household he was raised in.  His father is certainly an anti-vaxer.  I can (sort of) understand Kirk's hesitancy in that becoming vaccinated would be a repudiation of the type of faith his father nurtured in him.  When his father was diagnosed with cancer, he said "I don't have any anxiety. I have peace."  Compare that to what Kirk said about the virus: "Even if I die — if I die, I die. I kind of have peace about that."  Look, I don't agree with Cousin's position but I can understand why he is the way he is.  I think it is unfortunate, I think he (and his father) are likely to come down with Covid in the next few months.  This "faith" is part of Cousins and he is willing to lose sponsorships, etc. to support his father.   Hard cold facts are not going to move Kirk away from his father's belief system that has been instilled in him since birth.  

I do think this will open a pandora's box of issues for Cousins.  His father holds a lot of -- frankly -- racist beliefs.  He believes Satan is behind textbook changes, cancel culture, confederate statue removal, and the Black Lives Matter movement.  I am surprised that Cousins has not been asked more questions about his father's beliefs and that it has not become more of an issue within the locker room.
It's actually confirming to me that KC is who he appears to be given his dad's beliefs and how vocal he is in preaching to those who'll listen. 

IF anyone still had any question on why the best WR in football wanted to leave the Vikings, they dont need to "Ponder that" much more. 

Frankly, I dont see the KC era in MN going on much longer. 

Smart fans will be watching for the Vikings to take a QB quite high in 2022 draft. 







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#25
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@VikingOracle said:
I am vaccinated and I consider myself a liberal.  Just putting that forward because I think Kirk is in a novel situation given the household he was raised in.  His father is certainly an anti-vaxer.  I can (sort of) understand Kirk's hesitancy in that becoming vaccinated would be a repudiation of the type of faith his father nurtured in him.  When his father was diagnosed with cancer, he said "I don't have any anxiety. I have peace."  Compare that to what Kirk said about the virus: "Even if I die — if I die, I die. I kind of have peace about that."  Look, I don't agree with Cousin's position but I can understand why he is the way he is.  I think it is unfortunate, I think he (and his father) are likely to come down with Covid in the next few months.  This "faith" is part of Cousins and he is willing to lose sponsorships, etc. to support his father.   Hard cold facts are not going to move Kirk away from his father's belief system that has been instilled in him since birth.  

I do think this will open a pandora's box of issues for Cousins.  His father holds a lot of -- frankly -- racist beliefs.  He believes Satan is behind textbook changes, cancel culture, confederate statue removal, and the Black Lives Matter movement.  I am surprised that Cousins has not been asked more questions about his father's beliefs and that it has not become more of an issue within the locker room.
It's actually confirming to me that KC is who he appears to be given his dad's beliefs and how vocal he is in preaching to those who'll listen. 

IF anyone still had any question on why the best WR in football wanted to leave the Vikings, they dont need to "Ponder that" much more. 

Frankly, I dont see the KC era in MN going on much longer. 

Smart fans will be watching for the Vikings to take a QB quite high in 2022 draft. 







Exactly. Diggs called out a bunch of bs. I know some people didn't like how he called it out but there it is. I guess someone else is going to have to say it a nice and delicate tone in order for the message to get through. I don't want to lose Jefferson due to the nonsense. The philosophy of the offense needs to improve. The OL as usual is still an issue. Maybe Kubiak Jr. learned from Stefanski as well as dad. 
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#26
Quote: @rf54 said:
no, one is murder, the other is freedom to choose what you put in your body  

The unvaxed are hurting our country, causing significant pain & suffering, accelerating mutant variation, draining $$ out of the economy and further eroding the quality of healthcare in the USA.

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1). More than 100,000 people are hospitalized with Covid-19 in the US -- the first time that level has been reached since January -

2). The latest figure, amid a summer surge in Covid-19 cases driven by the highly transmissible Delta variant, is also more than double what it was on the same day last year, when vaccines were not available as they are now.

3). Dr. Paul Offit, a member of the US Food and Drug Administration's vaccine advisory committee;

""The numbers now ... are actually in many ways worse than last August," Offit said. "Last August, we had a fully susceptible population, (and) we didn't have a vaccine. Now, we have half the country vaccinated ... but nonetheless the numbers are worse.
"The Delta variant is one big game changer," he said.
4), Fully vaccinated people are far less likely than unvaccinated people to be hospitalized with Covid-19, a recent study from Los Angeles County affirmed;

Infection and hospitalization rates among unvaccinated people were 4.9 and 29.2 times, respectively, those in fully vaccinated persons on July 25, researchers from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health wrote in the study, which was published this week by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

5). Very few fully vaccinated people with coronavirus infection went to a hospital: 3.2%, of them were hospitalized, 0.5% were admitted to an intensive care unit and 0.2% required mechanical ventilation, the researchers said.
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#27
Quote: @rf54 said:
no, one is murder, the other is freedom to choose what you put in your body  
One is not their body, but that of another.  Vaccine's fit that phrase much better than what it was originally used for.
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#28
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@rf54 said:
no, one is murder, the other is freedom to choose what you put in your body  

The unvaxed are hurting our country, causing significant pain & suffering, accelerating mutant variation, draining $$ out of the economy and further eroding the quality of healthcare in the USA.

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1). More than 100,000 people are hospitalized with Covid-19 in the US -- the first time that level has been reached since January -

2). The latest figure, amid a summer surge in Covid-19 cases driven by the highly transmissible Delta variant, is also more than double what it was on the same day last year, when vaccines were not available as they are now.

3). Dr. Paul Offit, a member of the US Food and Drug Administration's vaccine advisory committee;

""The numbers now ... are actually in many ways worse than last August," Offit said. "Last August, we had a fully susceptible population, (and) we didn't have a vaccine. Now, we have half the country vaccinated ... but nonetheless the numbers are worse.
"The Delta variant is one big game changer," he said.
4), Fully vaccinated people are far less likely than unvaccinated people to be hospitalized with Covid-19, a recent study from Los Angeles County affirmed;

Infection and hospitalization rates among unvaccinated people were 4.9 and 29.2 times, respectively, those in fully vaccinated persons on July 25, researchers from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health wrote in the study, which was published this week by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

5). Very few fully vaccinated people with coronavirus infection went to a hospital: 3.2%, of them were hospitalized, 0.5% were admitted to an intensive care unit and 0.2% required mechanical ventilation, the researchers said.
I call bullshit.  The mutations are just as likely caused by the vax, more likely in fact.  The economy?  That is rich.  The lockdowns that were 'to slow the spread' gutted the economy, the 'stimulus' to repair the damage done by draconian government have finished the job.  

Healthcare?  perhaps paying nurses not to work, driving fear and giving them every reason not to work are part of the problem.  Perhaps the mental illness crises exacerbated by the lockdown has made healthcare suffer.  Scaring people with real medical needs to stay away from the hospital, forcing people to wear masks all day... dunno, perhaps that causes respiratory issues?

Perhaps take a step back and re-read this
Last August, we had a fully susceptible population, (and) we didn't have a vaccine. Now, we have half the country vaccinated ... but nonetheless the numbers are worse.
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#29
Quote: @Vikergirl said:
@AGRforever said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
[Image: 0y5xh6nmghq4.jpeg]

Saw that yesterday.  Is it really a Canada Goose?  We've always said Canadian Goose? Or more often a Canadian honker. 
We have always said Canadian geese. Interesting.

Canadian Geese would be plural.  But Canadian Honkers is what my entire extended family calls them.  Maybe we're a weird offshoot of some English dialect? 
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#30
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@rf54 said:
What happened to "my body, my choice"?  

Because Covid isn't your body your choice. You contracting Covid leads to a 7.5% chance that you'll need hospitalization.  That 7.5% chance reduces beds for heart, stroke, cancer and every other ailment out there. 

As unvaccinated you are also transmitting the disease to other people.  The current estimates of the delta variant are for every infected individual, they'll infect 8 other people.  Charts are skyrocketing worse then the USA debt. 

The great news out this morning for the vaccinated is that overrun hospitals are starting to triage patients rather then accommodate everyone. Vaccinated get beds.  Unvaccinated do not if the hospital is nearing capacity. 

Memphis area hospitals are at capacity right now.  They expect there to be 6x the demand for hospital resources by November.

Real life decisions have real life consequences.  Said simpler: play stupid games win stupid prizes. 

Get vaccinated.
Thought you were once libertarian.  

So we should mandate that sugar, cigs, alcohol, fast food, packaged food, driving, flying, getting old are now all illegal?

That shit is all more lethal than covid.  
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