Quote: @IDVikingfan said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Following multiple claims that mail-in voting was unsafe and vulnerable to fraud, Mr. Trump changed his mind about the practice last week, at least in Florida.
Of course he did. He's very consistently a moron.
I'm curious how many presidential candidates vote absentee? I would guess the vast majority since it is unlikely that they will be home on election day. Generally have party election central in a major city. Maybe not vast majority, but I'll bet it is not uncommon.
lol, that's not the moron part I'm talking about.
LOL, missed that. You do agree that many/most presidential candidates vote absentee?
Yeah, I have zero issue with that.
Quote: @Skodin said:
Personal attempt to manipulate the election. End of story. He had 4 years to make a change, now he wants to make it (despite spending the last 2 decades voting by mail in voting)
Voter Suppression pure and simple. Disgusting and offensive to every American and their right to vote in this country. Again, a real threat to our democracy unlike “mask requirements”
Can you imagine if the previous President did this running up to the 2012 election? Holding up the second stimulus in month 6 of a pandemic.
I'm not defending the president. Just curious how one can claim voter suppression if any registered voter can request an absentee ballot? Everyone knows we have an election coming up in a few months, execute their privilege by registering, that's not too hard or difficult for most people.
I do agree, there will be challenges for some. Take the homeless can only vote in person and each state has their verification for voting. Nursing home residents are a bit more of challenge, needing a case by case resolution. Who else, I'm sure I'm missing some...
Quote: @IDVikingfan said:
Several states had problems with primary balloting and took a long time to declare the winner. Are all the problems known leading to this result and can they be fixed before the election?
I personally prefer verified in person voting as the gold standard. Idaho requires showing your photo ID at the polling place. Absentee ballot is available with cross reference that you are registered in the precinct. Application can be done on-line so not a major hassle. Mail-in has no verification and not available in Idaho.
My mother was living in a Stillwater, MN nursing home at her last opportunity to vote. Democrat workers were visiting residents and handing out ballots. Mom was life long Democrat and enjoyed visiting with the young Dem that came to her room. They discussed the ballot and then Mom voted and handed the worker the completed ballot. The Dem asked her how she voted and then strongly berated her because mom didn't vote "correctly". Mom was very angry and I don't blame her. IMO, it was not right to ask how one voted, not right to berate a voter for how they voted nor right for a party worker to deliver the ballot.
With all due respect, Idaho, I find that story incredibly hard to believe. Sounds like something you'd hear on Fox News. These workers are typically trained well enough to not commit felonies. My mother worked elections for about 20 years. She could not so much as wear a particular candidate's pin, let alone tell someone how to vote.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Several states had problems with primary balloting and took a long time to declare the winner. Are all the problems known leading to this result and can they be fixed before the election?
I personally prefer verified in person voting as the gold standard. Idaho requires showing your photo ID at the polling place. Absentee ballot is available with cross reference that you are registered in the precinct. Application can be done on-line so not a major hassle. Mail-in has no verification and not available in Idaho.
My mother was living in a Stillwater, MN nursing home at her last opportunity to vote. Democrat workers were visiting residents and handing out ballots. Mom was life long Democrat and enjoyed visiting with the young Dem that came to her room. They discussed the ballot and then Mom voted and handed the worker the completed ballot. The Dem asked her how she voted and then strongly berated her because mom didn't vote "correctly". Mom was very angry and I don't blame her. IMO, it was not right to ask how one voted, not right to berate a voter for how they voted nor right for a party worker to deliver the ballot.
With all due respect, Idaho, I find that story incredibly hard to believe. Sounds like something you'd hear on Fox News. These workers are typically trained well enough to not commit felonies. My mother worked elections for about 20 years. She could not so much as wear a particular candidate's pin, let alone tell someone how to vote.
i bet if it had been a republican worker that berated her choice you wouldnt have had a problem believing his story, because you would have heard it on CNN.
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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Several states had problems with primary balloting and took a long time to declare the winner. Are all the problems known leading to this result and can they be fixed before the election?
I personally prefer verified in person voting as the gold standard. Idaho requires showing your photo ID at the polling place. Absentee ballot is available with cross reference that you are registered in the precinct. Application can be done on-line so not a major hassle. Mail-in has no verification and not available in Idaho.
My mother was living in a Stillwater, MN nursing home at her last opportunity to vote. Democrat workers were visiting residents and handing out ballots. Mom was life long Democrat and enjoyed visiting with the young Dem that came to her room. They discussed the ballot and then Mom voted and handed the worker the completed ballot. The Dem asked her how she voted and then strongly berated her because mom didn't vote "correctly". Mom was very angry and I don't blame her. IMO, it was not right to ask how one voted, not right to berate a voter for how they voted nor right for a party worker to deliver the ballot.
With all due respect, Idaho, I find that story incredibly hard to believe. Sounds like something you'd hear on Fox News. These workers are typically trained well enough to not commit felonies. My mother worked elections for about 20 years. She could not so much as wear a particular candidate's pin, let alone tell someone how to vote.
Just wrote what my Mother told me, I was 1100 miles away in Idaho and not a direct witness. Sorry if her truth sounds like Fox News to you. She was a life long Democrat, rare to hear her say anything negative about the D's.
That was the election when Wellstone died in a plane crash. She was criticized for how she voted in that particular section of the ballot, details are sketchy since I never saw the ballot and obviously did not vote in MN.
Quote: @IDVikingfan said:
@ Skodin said:
Personal attempt to manipulate the election. End of story. He had 4 years to make a change, now he wants to make it (despite spending the last 2 decades voting by mail in voting)
Voter Suppression pure and simple. Disgusting and offensive to every American and their right to vote in this country. Again, a real threat to our democracy unlike “mask requirements”
Can you imagine if the previous President did this running up to the 2012 election? Holding up the second stimulus in month 6 of a pandemic.
I'm not defending the president. Just curious how one can claim voter suppression if any registered voter can request an absentee ballot? Everyone knows we have an election coming up in a few months, execute their privilege by registering, that's not too hard or difficult for most people.
I do agree, there will be challenges for some. Take the homeless can only vote in person and each state has their verification for voting. Nursing home residents are a bit more of challenge, needing a case by case resolution. Who else, I'm sure I'm missing some...
Because all states are not the same. We saw voter suppression try to take place in Wisconsin during the spring election.
We have seen RNC fight RI to require that mail in ballots must be signed in front of two witnesses or a notary.
Pennsylvania has a lawsuit against it for having the use of secure drop boxes for ballots.
CA was sued over a plan to mail absentee ballots to all eligible voters
The RNC and the White House have numerous lawsuits filed fighting the expansion of mail in voting, already laying the foundation of an illegitimate election result despite having significantly minimal evidence of mail in fraud historically. These law suits look to block the expansion of mail in voting for those who need it, others are attacking state level policies by claiming fraud before it happens.
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Quote: @Skodin said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
@ Skodin said:
Personal attempt to manipulate the election. End of story. He had 4 years to make a change, now he wants to make it (despite spending the last 2 decades voting by mail in voting)
Voter Suppression pure and simple. Disgusting and offensive to every American and their right to vote in this country. Again, a real threat to our democracy unlike “mask requirements”
Can you imagine if the previous President did this running up to the 2012 election? Holding up the second stimulus in month 6 of a pandemic.
I'm not defending the president. Just curious how one can claim voter suppression if any registered voter can request an absentee ballot? Everyone knows we have an election coming up in a few months, execute their privilege by registering, that's not too hard or difficult for most people.
I do agree, there will be challenges for some. Take the homeless can only vote in person and each state has their verification for voting. Nursing home residents are a bit more of challenge, needing a case by case resolution. Who else, I'm sure I'm missing some...
Because all states are not the same. We saw voter suppression try to take place in Wisconsin during the spring election.
We have seen RNC fight RI to require that mail in ballots must be signed in front of two witnesses or a notary.
Pennsylvania has a lawsuit against it for having the use of secure drop boxes for ballots.
CA was sued over a plan to mail absentee ballots to all eligible voters
The RNC and the White House have numerous lawsuits filed fighting the expansion of mail in voting, already laying the foundation of an illegitimate election result despite having significantly minimal evidence of mail in fraud historically. These law suits look to block the expansion of mail in voting for those who need it, others are attacking state level policies by claiming fraud before it happens.
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So how about my question, why no go with absentee balloting if don't want to go to the polls? Takes a little effort on part of some voters but everyone knows an election is coming, no excuse for most not making an effort to register.
It would take me 20 seconds to request an absentee ballot in Idaho. Been living at the same address for 30 years, no problem verifying I'm in the precinct.
Quote: @IDVikingfan said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Several states had problems with primary balloting and took a long time to declare the winner. Are all the problems known leading to this result and can they be fixed before the election?
I personally prefer verified in person voting as the gold standard. Idaho requires showing your photo ID at the polling place. Absentee ballot is available with cross reference that you are registered in the precinct. Application can be done on-line so not a major hassle. Mail-in has no verification and not available in Idaho.
My mother was living in a Stillwater, MN nursing home at her last opportunity to vote. Democrat workers were visiting residents and handing out ballots. Mom was life long Democrat and enjoyed visiting with the young Dem that came to her room. They discussed the ballot and then Mom voted and handed the worker the completed ballot. The Dem asked her how she voted and then strongly berated her because mom didn't vote "correctly". Mom was very angry and I don't blame her. IMO, it was not right to ask how one voted, not right to berate a voter for how they voted nor right for a party worker to deliver the ballot.
With all due respect, Idaho, I find that story incredibly hard to believe. Sounds like something you'd hear on Fox News. These workers are typically trained well enough to not commit felonies. My mother worked elections for about 20 years. She could not so much as wear a particular candidate's pin, let alone tell someone how to vote.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Several states had problems with primary balloting and took a long time to declare the winner. Are all the problems known leading to this result and can they be fixed before the election?
I personally prefer verified in person voting as the gold standard. Idaho requires showing your photo ID at the polling place. Absentee ballot is available with cross reference that you are registered in the precinct. Application can be done on-line so not a major hassle. Mail-in has no verification and not available in Idaho.
My mother was living in a Stillwater, MN nursing home at her last opportunity to vote. Democrat workers were visiting residents and handing out ballots. Mom was life long Democrat and enjoyed visiting with the young Dem that came to her room. They discussed the ballot and then Mom voted and handed the worker the completed ballot. The Dem asked her how she voted and then strongly berated her because mom didn't vote "correctly". Mom was very angry and I don't blame her. IMO, it was not right to ask how one voted, not right to berate a voter for how they voted nor right for a party worker to deliver the ballot.
With all due respect, Idaho, I find that story incredibly hard to believe. Sounds like something you'd hear on Fox News. These workers are typically trained well enough to not commit felonies. My mother worked elections for about 20 years. She could not so much as wear a particular candidate's pin, let alone tell someone how to vote.
Just wrote what my Mother told me, I was 1100 miles away in Idaho and not a direct witness. Sorry if her truth sounds like Fox News to you. She was a life long Democrat, rare to hear her say anything negative about the D's.
That was the election when Wellstone died in a plane crash. She was criticized for how show voted in that particular section of the ballot, details are sketchy since I never saw the ballot and obviously did not vote in MN.
...and my mom was (and still is) a lifelong republican. Voter intimidation on either side is strictly verboten. I'm guessing by saying that she did not fill out the ballot "correctly" he did not mean "who" she voted for but rather how the ballot was filled out. Filling it out improperly can lead to an invalid ballot. Just guessing.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Several states had problems with primary balloting and took a long time to declare the winner. Are all the problems known leading to this result and can they be fixed before the election?
I personally prefer verified in person voting as the gold standard. Idaho requires showing your photo ID at the polling place. Absentee ballot is available with cross reference that you are registered in the precinct. Application can be done on-line so not a major hassle. Mail-in has no verification and not available in Idaho.
My mother was living in a Stillwater, MN nursing home at her last opportunity to vote. Democrat workers were visiting residents and handing out ballots. Mom was life long Democrat and enjoyed visiting with the young Dem that came to her room. They discussed the ballot and then Mom voted and handed the worker the completed ballot. The Dem asked her how she voted and then strongly berated her because mom didn't vote "correctly". Mom was very angry and I don't blame her. IMO, it was not right to ask how one voted, not right to berate a voter for how they voted nor right for a party worker to deliver the ballot.
With all due respect, Idaho, I find that story incredibly hard to believe. Sounds like something you'd hear on Fox News. These workers are typically trained well enough to not commit felonies. My mother worked elections for about 20 years. She could not so much as wear a particular candidate's pin, let alone tell someone how to vote.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Several states had problems with primary balloting and took a long time to declare the winner. Are all the problems known leading to this result and can they be fixed before the election?
I personally prefer verified in person voting as the gold standard. Idaho requires showing your photo ID at the polling place. Absentee ballot is available with cross reference that you are registered in the precinct. Application can be done on-line so not a major hassle. Mail-in has no verification and not available in Idaho.
My mother was living in a Stillwater, MN nursing home at her last opportunity to vote. Democrat workers were visiting residents and handing out ballots. Mom was life long Democrat and enjoyed visiting with the young Dem that came to her room. They discussed the ballot and then Mom voted and handed the worker the completed ballot. The Dem asked her how she voted and then strongly berated her because mom didn't vote "correctly". Mom was very angry and I don't blame her. IMO, it was not right to ask how one voted, not right to berate a voter for how they voted nor right for a party worker to deliver the ballot.
With all due respect, Idaho, I find that story incredibly hard to believe. Sounds like something you'd hear on Fox News. These workers are typically trained well enough to not commit felonies. My mother worked elections for about 20 years. She could not so much as wear a particular candidate's pin, let alone tell someone how to vote.
Just wrote what my Mother told me, I was 1100 miles away in Idaho and not a direct witness. Sorry if her truth sounds like Fox News to you. She was a life long Democrat, rare to hear her say anything negative about the D's.
That was the election when Wellstone died in a plane crash. She was criticized for how show voted in that particular section of the ballot, details are sketchy since I never saw the ballot and obviously did not vote in MN.
...and my mom was (and still is) a lifelong republican. Voter intimidation on either side is strictly verboten. I'm guessing by saying that she did not fill out the ballot "correctly" he did not mean "who" she voted for but rather how the ballot was filled out. Filling it out improperly can lead to an invalid ballot. Just guessing.
As I recall, after thinking about it a bit more, seems that Wellstone died after the ballots were printed or something like that and to vote for the Dem candidate required a write in vote. That's where she messed up and was harassed about. Sorry, a young Dem campaign worker can screw up, wasn't there to know full details but do trust my mother...
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