Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ supafreak84 said:
One of the drafts bigger questions was answered:
OSU WR Smith-Njigba runs okay; not elite … On of the big questions at today’s Ohio State pro day was whether WR Jaxon Smith-Njigba would run, and if he did run how fast. Nothing has been announced officially but the consensus that he timed somewhere in the mid-4.5s. The NFL Network is reporting that his time was 4.53 which isn’t bad, but it isn’t elite either. By way of comparison, JSN’s former OSU teammates Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson both ran under 4.40 last year. And this year USC’s Jordan Addison ran a 4.49 at the combine which was considered to be somewhat disappointing. At the same time, though, NFL teams probably don’t necessarily see Smith-Njigba as a speed burner as he is generally thought of as more quick than fast with great route-running skills.
4.53 is better than I thought he'd run. I think this time actually improves his stock a little. Speed isn't his game. The more I see of this receiver class the less I like.
Yeah I think the 40 time is about what most expected. He is not a guy that is going to kill you deep and that shows up on film. He will however kill you as a shifty route runner who will keep the chains moving ala Adam Thielen. I like him. His Rose Bowl performance against Utah is the greatest performance I've ever seen by a receiver in college football. Ohio State just keeps churning them out and next year Marvin Harrison Jr is going to be the best of the bunch.
Quote: @RS Express said:
@ minny65 said:
Do we need to worry about a Hooker being available when we call at 23?
Yes, because Tampa's current QB is Baker Mayfield and they're sitting at 19. If Levis doesn't drop, they might jump on the Hooker. However, if Levis does slide, the Bucs could move up for less and have more to give, then leaving Hooker for us.
So, the question is do we need to move ahead of Tampa just to have a shot at Hooker never mind a falling Levi? The Bills move up 5 spots from 12 to 7 for Josh Allen and the Chiefs moved up from 27 to 10 for Mahomes. If you have conviction in a QB I think you have to make a move. Maybe we don't think Hooker or even Levi are worth moving up for I have no idea but if they were to make a move, I would support it.
Quote: @minny65 said:
@ RS Express said:
@ minny65 said:
Do we need to worry about a Hooker being available when we call at 23?
Yes, because Tampa's current QB is Baker Mayfield and they're sitting at 19. If Levis doesn't drop, they might jump on the Hooker. However, if Levis does slide, the Bucs could move up for less and have more to give, then leaving Hooker for us.
So, the question is do we need to move ahead of Tampa just to have a shot at Hooker never mind a falling Levi? The Bills move up 5 spots from 12 to 7 for Josh Allen and the Chiefs moved up from 27 to 10 for Mahomes. If you have conviction in a QB I think you have to make a move. Maybe we don't think Hooker or even Levi are worth moving up for I have no idea but if they were to make a move, I would support it.
Definitely. Choosing the right QB will always be a value, no matter the price.
Anyone who "overpaid" by 10% for a house in 2018/2019 is not regretting it today.
Might have been persuaded to give up a bit of draft capital for Levis based on his 2021 performance. Saw enough of him in 2022 - believe I'd pass. I do like Hooker quite a bit but I don't know that I would throw a #1 at him.
Per Darren Wolfsen, the Vikings will have representatives at Kentuckys Pro Day today and KOC is "highly intrigued" with QB Wil Levis
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
Per Darren Wolfsen, the Vikings will have representatives at Kentuckys Pro Day today and KOC is "highly intrigued" with QB Wil Levis
I don't doubt it. I think many teams are. I just can't comprehend how and what Minnesota would have to do secure Levis.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Per Darren Wolfsen, the Vikings will have representatives at Kentuckys Pro Day today and KOC is "highly intrigued" with QB Wil Levis
I don't doubt it. I think many teams are. I just can't comprehend how and what Minnesota would have to do secure Levis.
Probably more than most here would be comfortable with :p
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ supafreak84 said:
Per Darren Wolfsen, the Vikings will have representatives at Kentuckys Pro Day today and KOC is "highly intrigued" with QB Wil Levis
I don't doubt it. I think many teams are. I just can't comprehend how and what Minnesota would have to do secure Levis.
Probably more than most here would be comfortable with :p
Of course. But if you hit on it, you have a Superbowl QB. I have no idea if Levis has that ability or not. Actually, nobody does right now, lol. But there's so much disinformation and liar's poker going on right now pre-Draft, its hard to glean what's real.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
I couldn't care less about the knee or the age. He's either an NFL QB or he's not. Three, four years from now nobody's going to give a shit about his college knee injury, or the fact that he's 30 with ONLY 6, 7 more years left to play. They will only care if he's a good NFL QB or not.
I'd take Hooker over Richardson.
But I think a bigger story to watch is Levis dropping. If he drops into the middle teens, that is a gift the Vikings should not pass up. Moving from 23 to, say, 15 is not an expensive move and it could pay off huge.
I like all of the above.
I just found this move-up scenario for Levi - fwiw
A reputable mock draft has the Vikings trading up for Will Levis (msn.com)
"And now The Athletic's second of three beat writer mock drafts has the Vikings trading into the top 10 to take Kentucky quarterback Will Levis. Is the mock draft just cheap entertainment? Or is there some inside knowledge about the Vikings and interest in Levis?
Alec Lewis, who covers the Vikings for The Athletic, made a trade in the mock draft to acquire the No. 7 overall pick from the Raiders for the 23rd and 87th picks in this year's draft and their first-round pick in 2024.
In Lewis's explanation of the move, there were some juicy tidbits regarding the links between Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell and Levis's coach at Kentucky, Liam Coen.
Quote:"Levis, a strong-armed passer, played for Liam Coen in 2021 at Kentucky. Coen spent three years on the Rams staff with O’Connell from 2018 to 2020, then replaced him as L.A.’s offensive coordinator in 2022. Leaping to No. 7 would take some heavy lifting, but the time comes for every team to shoot its shot."
Two firsts and a third-rounder to get their future franchise quarterback and a sixth-round pick? It's a no-brainer if it works out, but if Levis busts it would be a huge whiff that sets the Vikings back years. "
I wouldn't go that high and I'm the president of the Will Levis fan club. But if he falls, a move from 23 to, say, 15 should only cost a '23 3rd and a '24 2nd. That I would do. But that's interesting about Coen.
Honestly, if the team has strong convictions about him and believe he can be their guy then I have no issues making the trade. Even if it costs next year's first rounder. I'll go with the braintrust for now.
I'm still waiting to see if the team ends up trading both Z & Cook. Hopefully if that comes to fruition it might take a bit of the sting away.
Just a hunch, but if I were a betting man, I'd put money that QB's are the first four picks of this draft. Arizona will trade out of #3 to either Seattle or Oakland.
1. Carolina- Stroud
2. Houston- Young
3. Vegas (from AZ)- Anthony Richardson
4. Indy- Levis
Them you have Washington at 16, Tampa at 19, and Seattle at 20 who I'd imagine would all seriously consider Hendon Hooker
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