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OT: Coronavirus
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
anyone really believe this country is doing a good job???
The US has reported more than 1,000 coronavirus deaths nearly every day in August  
The United States has reported more than 1,000 new deaths from coronavirus 16 out of the past 20 days, according to Johns Hopkins University and the Covid Tracking Project.

On Saturday, Johns Hopkins University reported 1,029 new deaths.
As of 8 a.m. ET, there are 5,361,613 cases of coronavirus and 169,489 deaths in the US.

We have had 7 COVID deaths this year in the county I live in in Illinois. Families of 6 of those 7 have contacted their state rep saying their family member DID NOT die of COVID and they want the records changed. There's gold in them there COVID deaths. Where there is money, there is enough greed to falsify the truth.
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Quote: @Hidalgo said:
@purplefaithful said:
anyone really believe this country is doing a good job???
The US has reported more than 1,000 coronavirus deaths nearly every day in August  
The United States has reported more than 1,000 new deaths from coronavirus 16 out of the past 20 days, according to Johns Hopkins University and the Covid Tracking Project.

On Saturday, Johns Hopkins University reported 1,029 new deaths.
As of 8 a.m. ET, there are 5,361,613 cases of coronavirus and 169,489 deaths in the US.

We have had 7 COVID deaths this year in the county I live in in Illinois. Families of 6 of those 7 have contacted their state rep saying their family member DID NOT die of COVID and they want the records changed. There's gold in them there COVID deaths. Where there is money, there is enough greed to falsify the truth.
No doubt there is discrepancy in the data and the wrong people will profit. Now is the order of magnitude of over-reporting mean there is really 900? 800? 750? 612 people dying per day instead? 

What about the potential for under-reporting?

Either way we cut it, it's still s hit show and it's probably not just 10 or 12 or 200 or 300. 


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Quote: @Hidalgo said:
@purplefaithful said:
anyone really believe this country is doing a good job???
The US has reported more than 1,000 coronavirus deaths nearly every day in August  
The United States has reported more than 1,000 new deaths from coronavirus 16 out of the past 20 days, according to Johns Hopkins University and the Covid Tracking Project.

On Saturday, Johns Hopkins University reported 1,029 new deaths.
As of 8 a.m. ET, there are 5,361,613 cases of coronavirus and 169,489 deaths in the US.
We have had 7 COVID deaths this year in the county I live in in Illinois. Families of 6 of those 7 have contacted their state rep saying their family member DID NOT die of COVID and they want the records changed. There's gold in them there COVID deaths. Where there is money, there is enough greed to falsify the truth.

Interesting, any link's to the story or data?
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hydroxychloroquine-works-in-high-risk-patients-and-saying-otherwise-is-dangerous

so will it get accepted as a possible treatment now that an esteemed Yale professor is backing its use and the WaPo  is allowing it to be published?

EDIT:  My bad,  not the WaPo,  the examiner.
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hydroxychloroquine-works-in-high-risk-patients-and-saying-otherwise-is-dangerous

so will it get accepted as a possible treatment now that an esteemed Yale professor is backing its use and the WaPo is allowing it to be published?
Its not hard to get one person, scientist or doctor, to agree with almost anything. And that isn't the Washington Post, its the Washington Examiner...BIG difference:

The Washington Examiner is an American conservative news website and weekly magazine based in Washington, D.C. It is owned by MediaDC, a subsidiary of Clarity Media Group, which is owned by Philip Anschutz.
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Quote: @StickyBun said:
@JimmyinSD said:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hydroxychloroquine-works-in-high-risk-patients-and-saying-otherwise-is-dangerous

so will it get accepted as a possible treatment now that an esteemed Yale professor is backing its use and the WaPo is allowing it to be published?
Its not hard to get one person, scientist or doctor, to agree with almost anything. And that isn't the Washington Post, its the Washington Examiner...BIG difference:

The Washington Examiner is an American conservative news website and weekly magazine based in Washington, D.C. It is owned by MediaDC, a subsidiary of Clarity Media Group, which is owned by Philip Anschutz.
my bad on the DC copy,   but the fact is its not just one doctor,  its more and more,   I am not saying it works,  just that it was so quickly dismissed and fervently attacked it just rang wrong for me.   I can understand when a crack pot witch doctor advocates for it,  but when more esteemed sources say its viable ( including stories of some that normally stand against it politically)  I am still wondering why it was shuttered so quickly.  the history of the drugs use and how cheap it is just baffle me as to how quickly people were screaming about how it was bad.
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@StickyBun said:
@JimmyinSD said:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hydroxychloroquine-works-in-high-risk-patients-and-saying-otherwise-is-dangerous

so will it get accepted as a possible treatment now that an esteemed Yale professor is backing its use and the WaPo is allowing it to be published?
Its not hard to get one person, scientist or doctor, to agree with almost anything. And that isn't the Washington Post, its the Washington Examiner...BIG difference:

The Washington Examiner is an American conservative news website and weekly magazine based in Washington, D.C. It is owned by MediaDC, a subsidiary of Clarity Media Group, which is owned by Philip Anschutz.
my bad on the DC copy,   but the fact is its not just one doctor,  its more and more,   I am not saying it works,  just that it was so quickly dismissed and fervently attacked it just rang wrong for me.   I can understand when a crack pot witch doctor advocates for it,  but when more esteemed sources say its viable ( including stories of some that normally stand against it politically)  I am still wondering why it was shuttered so quickly.  the history of the drugs use and how cheap it is just baffle me as to how quickly people were screaming about how it was bad.
I agree, its certainly possible it helps alleviate symptoms in certain patients. I think the issue was that there MIGHT be some pluses to it but then Trump talked about it as a cure and over exaggerated like he loves to do and then it became something the Left wanted to discredit fully. I had a friend of ours tell us that it was indeed a CURE and that if people would just take it, we'd all be fine. This was one day AFTER Trump lauded it on TV. That's where the danger lies: there are a lot of idiots in this country. You exaggerate or outright lie about a drug's potential as the POTUS and people die because of it. Dumbshits stop believing in science and medicine and start believing their Facebook feeds. 
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Quote: @StickyBun said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@StickyBun said:
@JimmyinSD said:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hydroxychloroquine-works-in-high-risk-patients-and-saying-otherwise-is-dangerous

so will it get accepted as a possible treatment now that an esteemed Yale professor is backing its use and the WaPo is allowing it to be published?
Its not hard to get one person, scientist or doctor, to agree with almost anything. And that isn't the Washington Post, its the Washington Examiner...BIG difference:

The Washington Examiner is an American conservative news website and weekly magazine based in Washington, D.C. It is owned by MediaDC, a subsidiary of Clarity Media Group, which is owned by Philip Anschutz.
my bad on the DC copy,   but the fact is its not just one doctor,  its more and more,   I am not saying it works,  just that it was so quickly dismissed and fervently attacked it just rang wrong for me.   I can understand when a crack pot witch doctor advocates for it,  but when more esteemed sources say its viable ( including stories of some that normally stand against it politically)  I am still wondering why it was shuttered so quickly.  the history of the drugs use and how cheap it is just baffle me as to how quickly people were screaming about how it was bad.
I agree, its certainly possible it helps alleviate symptoms in certain patients. I think the issue was that there MIGHT be some pluses to it but then Trump talked about it as a cure and over exaggerated like he loves to do and then it became something the Left wanted to discredit fully. I had a friend of ours tell us that it was indeed a CURE and that if people would just take it, we'd all be fine. This was one day AFTER Trump lauded it on TV. That's where the danger lies: there are a lot of idiots in this country. You exaggerate or outright lie about a drug's potential as the POTUS and people die because of it. Dumbshits stop believing in science and medicine and start believing their Facebook feeds. 
there is certainly those people,  but regardless if the president said it or their local pot dealer tells them they only need weed to cure all their ills theres always those people will try shit regardless of who says it  (Barr and I happen to share a theory on those folks) ... I just think that the media and the politicians needs to quit using this as a weapon and realize that while they are playing their usual game that people are dying as a result.  some want to scream at those that do/dont wear masks as the ones killing people out in public,  but then they drink up this slanted politicized shit.  Its gone to far from both extremes and its this election that is unnecessarily killing people IMO.
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If there was some peer reviewed, results it would make it of interest.  The initial study from France that was retracted kinda left a stain on it.  Why are conservitives so willing to jump on the science of this drug, but consider the science behind global warming to be such a hoax.
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Quote: @BigAl99 said:
@Hidalgo said:
@purplefaithful said:
anyone really believe this country is doing a good job???
The US has reported more than 1,000 coronavirus deaths nearly every day in August  
The United States has reported more than 1,000 new deaths from coronavirus 16 out of the past 20 days, according to Johns Hopkins University and the Covid Tracking Project.

On Saturday, Johns Hopkins University reported 1,029 new deaths.
As of 8 a.m. ET, there are 5,361,613 cases of coronavirus and 169,489 deaths in the US.
We have had 7 COVID deaths this year in the county I live in in Illinois. Families of 6 of those 7 have contacted their state rep saying their family member DID NOT die of COVID and they want the records changed. There's gold in them there COVID deaths. Where there is money, there is enough greed to falsify the truth.

Interesting, any link's to the story or data?
No links, first hand knowledge
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