Quote: @mblack said:
@ pattersaur said:
@ mblack said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ Knucklehead said:
Agree. If it's time (and I think it is) and if he's the guy, then do what it takes. Chiefs moved from 27 to 10 to draft Mahomes by giving up a 3rd and the following year's 1st.
Yup....And they'd do it again all day to Sunday too.
IF they think someone is that future? Go and get him, dont look back.
This is the most important off-season since 2017.
Trade JJ to Chiefs. Now you can do whatever you want in the deaft this year and the next plus you’d have the cap space.
Running for cover after saying the above
Insert “How about… no! gif”!!!
JJ almost single handedly beat Detroit for us the other day. Pay that man
How did you find me? Thought I ran for cover. I am just frustrated with the whole situation
Haha I mean. I get it. If the team is convinced Caleb Williams or whoever is Burrow 2.0 then yeah having him in house with Hockenson and Addison might be enough firepower to get by without JJ moving forward. But a bird in the hand and whatnot... Not sure I could make that move.
Quote: @pattersaur said:
@ mblack said:
@ pattersaur said:
@ mblack said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ Knucklehead said:
Agree. If it's time (and I think it is) and if he's the guy, then do what it takes. Chiefs moved from 27 to 10 to draft Mahomes by giving up a 3rd and the following year's 1st.
Yup....And they'd do it again all day to Sunday too.
IF they think someone is that future? Go and get him, dont look back.
This is the most important off-season since 2017.
Trade JJ to Chiefs. Now you can do whatever you want in the deaft this year and the next plus you’d have the cap space.
Running for cover after saying the above
Insert “How about… no! gif”!!!
JJ almost single handedly beat Detroit for us the other day. Pay that man
How did you find me? Thought I ran for cover. I am just frustrated with the whole situation
Haha I mean. I get it. If the team is convinced Caleb Williams or whoever is Burrow 2.0 then yeah having him in house with Hockenson and Addison might be enough firepower to get by without JJ moving forward. But a bird in the hand and whatnot... Not sure I could make that move.
I am still trying to recover from the Wonnum and TJ injuries. Is Addison really week to week? Or there is still bad news in the horizon
The range at which the Vikings will make their 1st pick is huge. I don't think I've ever seen it this wide this late in the ear. Right now the Vikings sit at 15. Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard someone say they could pick as high as 5 if everything, and I mean everything, falls right. And of course 32 if they somehow make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.
In order to pick in the top 7, some pretty unlikely things have to happen. But picking between 8-10 doesn't require nearly as much help.
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Even if the Bears and Cardinals both trade out, it seems safe to assume both of those picks will be QBs. Then you have QB-needy Washington, New England, and probably NYG. The Vikings are going to have to get really comfy with the 5th-ish QB taken in the draft, or make a colossal move into the top 3 if they want their choice after Williams/Maye.
Best case for us is Bears and Cards both move back, but do so within the top 5. So WAS and NE get their QBs, CHI+ARI pick, and QB3 "falls" to NYG at 5. Pick 6 is LAC, 7 is TEN, 8 is CHI again, and 9 is NYJ. So in this scenario, QB4 could be had in that 8-10 range hopefully. Maybe CHI and NYG surprise and don't take QBs. That would really have us sitting pretty but it seems far-fetched.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
The range at which the Vikings will make their 1st pick is huge. I don't think I've ever seen it this wide this late in the ear. Right now the Vikings sit at 15. Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard someone say they could pick as high as 5 if everything, and I mean everything, falls right. And of course 32 if they somehow make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.
In order to pick in the top 7, some pretty unlikely things have to happen. But picking between 8-10 doesn't require nearly as much help.
If JJ McCarthy lays an egg against Alabama on Monday, his draft stock is going to take a hit. I think there's already questions about him as far as not knowing exactly what you might be getting. I think he's going to be there at #15 for Minnesota either way IF they want him.....the thing is we don't know if the Vikings even like him.
Latest rankings: https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-...arterbacks
If I had to choose now what I THINK will happen, it'll be Bo Nix.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
The range at which the Vikings will make their 1st pick is huge. I don't think I've ever seen it this wide this late in the ear. Right now the Vikings sit at 15. Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard someone say they could pick as high as 5 if everything, and I mean everything, falls right. And of course 32 if they somehow make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.
In order to pick in the top 7, some pretty unlikely things have to happen. But picking between 8-10 doesn't require nearly as much help.
If JJ McCarthy lays an egg against Alabama on Monday, his draft stock is going to take a hit. I think there's already questions about him as far as not knowing exactly what you might be getting. I think he's going to be there at #15 for Minnesota either way IF they want him.....the thing is we don't know if the Vikings even like him.
Latest rankings: https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-...arterbacks
If I had to choose now what I THINK will happen, it'll be Bo Nix.
Went back and watched more McCarthy and he's gone down a notch in my estimation. He's got a good arm, but his deep accuracy isn't very good and he will do stupid things like throw across his body.
Watched more Daniels too. I think he's going to go top 10, but it's unbelievable how many hits that kid takes. I think that's something you can coach out of him though.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
The range at which the Vikings will make their 1st pick is huge. I don't think I've ever seen it this wide this late in the ear. Right now the Vikings sit at 15. Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard someone say they could pick as high as 5 if everything, and I mean everything, falls right. And of course 32 if they somehow make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.
In order to pick in the top 7, some pretty unlikely things have to happen. But picking between 8-10 doesn't require nearly as much help.
If JJ McCarthy lays an egg against Alabama on Monday, his draft stock is going to take a hit. I think there's already questions about him as far as not knowing exactly what you might be getting. I think he's going to be there at #15 for Minnesota either way IF they want him.....the thing is we don't know if the Vikings even like him.
Latest rankings: https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-...arterbacks
If I had to choose now what I THINK will happen, it'll be Bo Nix.
I'm not yet convinced that JJM will declare. A lot will depend on the results of the CFP & if Harbaugh jumps to the pros. With the NIL $ available to JJM, remaining in Michigan may be a palatable option. I guess that I'll believe it when I see it.
Parcells had a checklist for evaluating college QBs & the likelihood that they could successfully transition to the pro game. He said that college QBs should have a minimum of 30 starts & a 70% win rate. I have to think that both Nix & Penix meet this metric FWIW.
Quote: @Knucklehead said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
The range at which the Vikings will make their 1st pick is huge. I don't think I've ever seen it this wide this late in the ear. Right now the Vikings sit at 15. Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard someone say they could pick as high as 5 if everything, and I mean everything, falls right. And of course 32 if they somehow make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.
In order to pick in the top 7, some pretty unlikely things have to happen. But picking between 8-10 doesn't require nearly as much help.
If JJ McCarthy lays an egg against Alabama on Monday, his draft stock is going to take a hit. I think there's already questions about him as far as not knowing exactly what you might be getting. I think he's going to be there at #15 for Minnesota either way IF they want him.....the thing is we don't know if the Vikings even like him.
Latest rankings: https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-...arterbacks
If I had to choose now what I THINK will happen, it'll be Bo Nix.
I'm not yet convinced that JJM will declare. A lot will depend on the results of the CFP & if Harbaugh jumps to the pros. With the NIL $ available to JJM, remaining in Michigan may be a palatable option. I guess that I'll believe it when I see it.
IIRC Parcells had a checklist for evaluating college QBs & the likelihood that they could successfully transition to the pro game. He said that college QBs should have a minimum of 30 starts & a 70% win rate. I have to think that both Nix & Penix meet this metric FWIW.
One that wasn't on Parcell's checklist was season-ending injuries, which has to be a concern about Penix. Love his poise in the pocket though.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ Knucklehead said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ MaroonBells said:
The range at which the Vikings will make their 1st pick is huge. I don't think I've ever seen it this wide this late in the ear. Right now the Vikings sit at 15. Not sure if this is true or not, but I heard someone say they could pick as high as 5 if everything, and I mean everything, falls right. And of course 32 if they somehow make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.
In order to pick in the top 7, some pretty unlikely things have to happen. But picking between 8-10 doesn't require nearly as much help.
If JJ McCarthy lays an egg against Alabama on Monday, his draft stock is going to take a hit. I think there's already questions about him as far as not knowing exactly what you might be getting. I think he's going to be there at #15 for Minnesota either way IF they want him.....the thing is we don't know if the Vikings even like him.
Latest rankings: https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-...arterbacks
If I had to choose now what I THINK will happen, it'll be Bo Nix.
I'm not yet convinced that JJM will declare. A lot will depend on the results of the CFP & if Harbaugh jumps to the pros. With the NIL $ available to JJM, remaining in Michigan may be a palatable option. I guess that I'll believe it when I see it.
IIRC Parcells had a checklist for evaluating college QBs & the likelihood that they could successfully transition to the pro game. He said that college QBs should have a minimum of 30 starts & a 70% win rate. I have to think that both Nix & Penix meet this metric FWIW.
One that wasn't on Parcell's checklist was season-ending injuries, which has to be a concern about Penix. Love his poise in the pocket though.
I dont know that there is QB in the group that can help/hurt his stock more with his bowl game performance. I have seen enough to know that I love his game, but the durability question looms large and the Vikings havent been lucky in rolling the dice lately on "injury bugged" draft picks. However, I would love to see the kid play for the Vikings, he has the arm to make about any throw and the accuracy to really make use of our receiving talents. If they pass I will understand, but if they take him I will be elated to see how his journey unfolds. Really seems like a great young man.
Quote: @pattersaur said:
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Even if the Bears and Cardinals both trade out, it seems safe to assume both of those picks will be QBs. Then you have QB-needy Washington, New England, and probably NYG. The Vikings are going to have to get really comfy with the 5th-ish QB taken in the draft, or make a colossal move into the top 3 if they want their choice after Williams/Maye.
Best case for us is Bears and Cards both move back, but do so within the top 5. So WAS and NE get their QBs, CHI+ARI pick, and QB3 "falls" to NYG at 5. Pick 6 is LAC, 7 is TEN, 8 is CHI again, and 9 is NYJ. So in this scenario, QB4 could be had in that 8-10 range hopefully. Maybe CHI and NYG surprise and don't take QBs. That would really have us sitting pretty but it seems far-fetched.
One of the either the Bears or Cards could be a home for Fields. And don't forget that QBs like Russell Wilson will be out there too, along with Tannehill and Mayfield. I think Cousins re-ups in Minnesota, but even he could be an option for one of those teams.
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