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OT 2021 Mass Shooters
The stench of this one is sickening. I don't understand how and why they stood by and did nothing why innocent children were being slaughtered. I will never understand that. They should not be allowed to continue at their jobs. The incompetence and negligence is absolutely ridiculous. No excuses for their inaction whatsoever. For that momma that went in and got her children out, she has more guts that those that stood by and did nothing.
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Quote: @Vikergirl said:
The stench of this one is sickening. I don't understand how and why they stood by and did nothing why innocent children were being slaughtered. I will never understand that. They should not be allowed to continue at their jobs. The incompetence and negligence is absolutely ridiculous. No excuses for their inaction whatsoever. For that momma that went in and got her children out, she has more guts that those that stood by and did nothing.
I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop over what really went down that day.  We aren't getting the whole story I dont think.  This can't just be cowardice or bad communication or training....this whole narrative screams false.  From the shooters truck and ammo situation to the non action of the LEOs and the whole damn thing about keeping outsiders from going in.  I just ain't buying it anymore. 
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@Vikergirl said:
The stench of this one is sickening. I don't understand how and why they stood by and did nothing why innocent children were being slaughtered. I will never understand that. They should not be allowed to continue at their jobs. The incompetence and negligence is absolutely ridiculous. No excuses for their inaction whatsoever. For that momma that went in and got her children out, she has more guts that those that stood by and did nothing.
I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop over what really went down that day.  We aren't getting the whole story I dont think.  This can't just be cowardice or bad communication or training....this whole narrative screams false.  From the shooters truck and ammo situation to the non action of the LEOs and the whole damn thing about keeping outsiders from going in.  I just ain't buying it anymore. 
You have a predisposition for conspiracy. You should resist it. Can't just be cowardice, bad communication and training? Why the hell not? 
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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Vikergirl said:
The stench of this one is sickening. I don't understand how and why they stood by and did nothing why innocent children were being slaughtered. I will never understand that. They should not be allowed to continue at their jobs. The incompetence and negligence is absolutely ridiculous. No excuses for their inaction whatsoever. For that momma that went in and got her children out, she has more guts that those that stood by and did nothing.
I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop over what really went down that day.  We aren't getting the whole story I dont think.  This can't just be cowardice or bad communication or training....this whole narrative screams false.  From the shooters truck and ammo situation to the non action of the LEOs and the whole damn thing about keeping outsiders from going in.  I just ain't buying it anymore. 
You have a predisposition for conspiracy. You should resist it. Can't just be cowardice, bad communication and training? Why the hell not? 
Agreed. Cops are people, people fuck up. People can act cowardly, including the police. Police are notorious for protecting their own at all costs, the thin blue line. Cops can be corrupt. Bad decisions are made all the time in law enforcement. I'm a fan of and respect the police department, but nothing is beyond reproach and this needs to be investigated fully and comprehensively. 

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....its a fucking duck.

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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Vikergirl said:
The stench of this one is sickening. I don't understand how and why they stood by and did nothing why innocent children were being slaughtered. I will never understand that. They should not be allowed to continue at their jobs. The incompetence and negligence is absolutely ridiculous. No excuses for their inaction whatsoever. For that momma that went in and got her children out, she has more guts that those that stood by and did nothing.
I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop over what really went down that day.  We aren't getting the whole story I dont think.  This can't just be cowardice or bad communication or training....this whole narrative screams false.  From the shooters truck and ammo situation to the non action of the LEOs and the whole damn thing about keeping outsiders from going in.  I just ain't buying it anymore. 
You have a predisposition for conspiracy. You should resist it. Can't just be cowardice, bad communication and training? Why the hell not? 
To many people trained to do a job,  flat out didn't do that job and interfered when others tried to do what they refused to do.  I can see 1 or 2 cops scared to do their jobs,  but there were to many trained people on site,  in the damn building for Christ's sake,  that stood down and allowed this to continue.  

Maybe it was just a random act of mental illness,  but I am starting to wonder if it was more,  perhaps cartel retaliation or something?   I dont know,  just imagine a fire department where nobody was willing to go in and try and save children from a fire...don't happen,  somebody dies trying or the children are saved if they arrive in time,  which was the case here.

EDIT: and by the way,  when things end up being true,  its not really a conspiracy.
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@MaroonBells said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Vikergirl said:
The stench of this one is sickening. I don't understand how and why they stood by and did nothing why innocent children were being slaughtered. I will never understand that. They should not be allowed to continue at their jobs. The incompetence and negligence is absolutely ridiculous. No excuses for their inaction whatsoever. For that momma that went in and got her children out, she has more guts that those that stood by and did nothing.
I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop over what really went down that day.  We aren't getting the whole story I dont think.  This can't just be cowardice or bad communication or training....this whole narrative screams false.  From the shooters truck and ammo situation to the non action of the LEOs and the whole damn thing about keeping outsiders from going in.  I just ain't buying it anymore. 
You have a predisposition for conspiracy. You should resist it. Can't just be cowardice, bad communication and training? Why the hell not? 
To many people trained to do a job,  flat out didn't do that job and interfered when others tried to do what they refused to do.  I can see 1 or 2 cops scared to do their jobs,  but there were to many trained people on site,  in the damn building for Christ's sake,  that stood down and allowed this to continue.  

Maybe it was just a random act of mental illness,  but I am starting to wonder if it was more,  perhaps cartel retaliation or something?   I dont know,  just imagine a fire department where nobody was willing to go in and try and save children from a fire...don't happen,  somebody dies trying or the children are saved if they arrive in time,  which was the case here.

EDIT: and by the way,  when things end up being true,  its not really a conspiracy.
Yeah, speaking of walking, quacking, looking like a duck, that is exactly what it looks like.  Initially it looked like blundering cowards.  But physically stopping a LEO and taking away his weapon?  Not just inaction, but action to allow the carnage to continue.  

It may be a theory, but so is the opposite view.  
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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Vikergirl said:
The stench of this one is sickening. I don't understand how and why they stood by and did nothing why innocent children were being slaughtered. I will never understand that. They should not be allowed to continue at their jobs. The incompetence and negligence is absolutely ridiculous. No excuses for their inaction whatsoever. For that momma that went in and got her children out, she has more guts that those that stood by and did nothing.
I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop over what really went down that day.  We aren't getting the whole story I dont think.  This can't just be cowardice or bad communication or training....this whole narrative screams false.  From the shooters truck and ammo situation to the non action of the LEOs and the whole damn thing about keeping outsiders from going in.  I just ain't buying it anymore. 
You have a predisposition for conspiracy. You should resist it. Can't just be cowardice, bad communication and training? Why the hell not? 
I’ll take Jimmys side here. Usually the simplest answer is the easiest and its not to darn hard to think the easiest was that whomever made the “don't go in” call had an axe to grind or was bought off. 
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Quote: @MaroonBells said:
https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/stat...52640?s=20&t=39ahtkcElVoeCey39qjO2w
is that how he felt when a angry racist ran down parade goers with his vehicle last Christmas?  were there clever tweets about that tragedy thinking that they may some way bring about some sort of change that will do nothing to address the real issue at hand?  if he had tweeted some smarmy bull shit response at that time, would you have posted that as well?

you may think that this shit is somehow going to change minds or win points,  but it really does nothing but show the true ignorance on the matter.

quick question.. how has prohibition ever worked in this country?  booze... utter failure unless you were a kennedy or other that simply igoned the laws and found ways to profit from it.  drugs.... that one is the time honored poster child for failure.   what else we got,  sex with children... well those in power dont seem to give a shit there either.   countless gun laws in place already that do little to nothing to stop this shit,  maybe focus on the why, and not the how, and you might get closer to finding a solution,  the how can easily be swapped out,  as it has many times in the past.  
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
is that how he felt when a angry racist ran down parade goers with his vehicle last Christmas?  were there clever tweets about that tragedy thinking that they may some way bring about some sort of change that will do nothing to address the real issue at hand?  if he had tweeted some smarmy bull shit response at that time, would you have posted that as well?

you may think that this shit is somehow going to change minds or win points,  but it really does nothing but show the true ignorance on the matter.

quick question.. how has prohibition ever worked in this country?  booze... utter failure unless you were a kennedy or other that simply igoned the laws and found ways to profit from it.  drugs.... that one is the time honored poster child for failure.   what else we got,  sex with children... well those in power dont seem to give a shit there either.   countless gun laws in place already that do little to nothing to stop this shit,  maybe focus on the why, and not the how, and you might get closer to finding a solution,  the how can easily be swapped out,  as it has many times in the past.  
Who's talking about prohibition? Most gun control advocates simply want better regulation. Y'know, kinda like alcohol. 


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