Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Elway ahead of Spielman is a joke. There's a rumor going around Denver that Elway liked QBs who were just like him and that's why he picked the big, strong armed Osweiler and Lynch. He's letting Kubiak make those decisions now, and apparently Kubiak likes QBs who are just like him, thus Case Keenum.
Elway won a Super Bowl not too long ago and that is weighing too heavy in his favor. But what bold moves did he make to achieve that? He signed Peyton Manning and drafted Von Miller. Yeah, real strokes of genius there. Manning was one of the all-time greats who only wanted to go to Denver. And Von Miller was a can't miss #2 overall pick. But by and large, his drafts have been littered with an incredible amount of busts, especially on the offensive side: Brock Osweiler, Montee Ball, Cody Latimer, Ty Sambrailo, Paxton Lynch...too early to call Garett Bolles a bust, but he will be soon.
Bold prediction: Spielman will be at the top of this list next year.
Matt Kalil was can't miss also.
Quote: @Poiple said:
A lot of credit goes to the cap management and thr ownership group. Ive been surprised at ability and desire to go after free agents.
When the Wilfs bought the team they said they were dedicated to building a Superbowl team but every owner says that. They put their money were their mouth is.
The Vikings finally have first class ownership the stay out a player decisions and pony up money for a new stadium and league he team workout headquarters what have u they spend money bringing in the best players the coaches and gm want .the only time we see them is an occasional locker room celebration after a win and they don't cause trouble the let the front office do there job the coaches coach and players play they just enjoy and sign checks
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Elway ahead of Spielman is a joke. There's a rumor going around Denver that Elway liked QBs who were just like him and that's why he picked the big, strong armed Osweiler and Lynch. He's letting (Vance Joseph, HC in 2017) make those decisions now, and apparently (Vance Joseph, HC IN 2018) likes QBs who are just like him, thus Case Keenum.
Bold prediction: Spielman will be at the top of this list next year. (LOL!!!)
Fixed your false narrative.....Vance Joseph was the HC of the Broncos last season and, for the forseeable future, this season, NOT GARY KUBIAK. Oh, also, Vance Joseph was NEVER A QB.
P.S. Elway's ACTUAL records as The Broncos Personnel Executive since 2011 (even including those WITHOUT the exalted title of GM) :
Regular season : 72-40
Playoffs - 6-4 (including 1 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP)
I'll let YOU research and post Saint Dicky's overall record (but I'm betting you WON'T)
2011, btw, was the same year that Vikings fans were ASSURED that Christian Ponder, selected #12 OVERALL , was the SOLUTION to the Viking's QB, um, issue? And after that, TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS AND FOUR DRAFT PICKS TOTAL were used on 2 Quarterbacks between April, 2014 and September, 2016 and NEITHER if those 1st rounders are on the team.....Hmmm.
2 playoff wins in 12 seasons...YAY!
Quote: @Kentis said:
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wait for it, he’s coming...  B)
So is Saint Dicky's first back-to-back playoff WINS.... after 25 + years as an NFL personnel executive.
But for THAT, you might want to use some geological time measurement device.
2 playoff wins (1 of which was miraculous) in 12 seasons is NOT a pace that warrants a stopwatch, or even a CALENDAR.
Let's SEE what Dicky's dream team CAN actually ACCOMPLISH IN 2018, shall we? No more woulda, coulda, shoulda.
I'd be willing to admit I'm wrong if the 2018 Viking's FINALLY (for the 1st time since 1987) manage to win at LEAST 2 playoff games. Are YOU willing to acknowledge Schpielman's pathetic playoff record if the team posts another patented playoff 1 and done or 1 and 1?
Or will you reply with some juvenile GIF or picture?
Man up, D-bag. Minimum TWO playoff wins. Yay or Nay?
Wow, and here I thought you were just stupid. Turns out you're just woefully uninformed.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Wow, and here I thought you were just stupid. Turns out you're just woefully uninformed.
Whoa, you are apparently both ignorant AND stupid.
Please enlighten us as to WHO the Head Coach of the Denver Broncos was in 2017, and who will be the HC of that team in 2018?
Kubiak obvoiusly had NOTHING to do with their QB decisions in 2017, nor for THIS season.
From wikipedia:
Due to his relative young age, many expected Kubiak to remain involved in football in a non-coaching capacity after stepping down as head coach. [57] He remained in contact with Elway after his retirement, fueling speculation that he would remain involved with the organization. [58] Six months after his retirement, Kubiak officially rejoined the Denver Broncos as a Senior Personnel Adviser. [59] Basing himself out of his home in Houston, Kubiak now analyzes offensive college prospects ahead of the draft and assists in free agency. [60]
Just saying....Maroon never said he was the head coach.
Quote: @Vikesrock said:
From wikipedia:
Due to his relative young age, many expected Kubiak to remain involved in football in a non-coaching capacity after stepping down as head coach.[57] He remained in contact with Elway after his retirement, fueling speculation that he would remain involved with the organization.[58] Six months after his retirement, Kubiak officially rejoined the Denver Broncos as a Senior Personnel Adviser.[59] Basing himself out of his home in Houston, Kubiak now analyzes offensive college prospects ahead of the draft and assists in free agency.[60]
Just saying....Maroon never said he was the head coach.
But he DID say that he is NOW responsible for QB decisions, OVER the GM and current HC.
That is absolutely RIDICULOUS.
Both a HC AND a GM would risk their jobs on a retired Coach regarding the SINGLE most important decision they can possibly make? Seriously?!! LMAO.
Although, some here might buy that line of crap....they are the same ones also convinced that a VP of Player Personnel and in charge of ALL SCOUTING departments was somehow not responsible for ANY personnel decisions until he was coronated with the title of GM.
2 playoff wins, Dicky. EVERYONE is now watching.
Where have you gone Fran Foley....?
Quote: @njvike said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Wow, and here I thought you were just stupid. Turns out you're just woefully uninformed.
Whoa, you are apparently both ignorant AND stupid.
Please enlighten us as to WHO the Head Coach of the Denver Broncos was in 2017, and who will be the HC of that team in 2018?
Kubiak obvoiusly had NOTHING to do with their QB decisions in 2017, nor for THIS season.
LOL, Google it Dipshit.
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