Quote: @A1Janitor said:
After taking a sack.
Yes, and a hard one at that.
Quote: @Ralphie said:
@ PSBLAKE said:
If Brady or Brees or Rodgers had thrown that pass there would have been a lot more said about how good of a pass it was. Instead most are talking about the catch or how it was a miracle. This was a well executed play with an almost perfect throw. Honestly the miracle part was Williams falling down and knocking out Crowley.
Yup. Case was just lucky. If it was Brady, Erin or Rapelesberger, it would have been described as "brilliant" and a "well placed dagger or laser". 
This kid set the NCAA record for passing yards, completions and TD's and is routinely dismissed as some kind of Danny Wuerffel wanna-be.
Im not dissing Case here, just your choice of stats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NC...ds_leaders
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/lea...areer.html ( not #1 in this as stated, but interestingly enough we have 3 of the top 20 on our roster!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NC...ns_leaders
you may not want him compared to Danny Wuerffel, but those stats that you are trying to use to support Case show that he is in fact in the company of a lot players whose pro career very much resembles wuerffels. not saying Case's career will have the same results, just nothing supported by your stats.
nobody is dissing this particular throw, not sure where that is coming from... and the reason that those others get more respect... they've earned it through years of making throws like that. the throw was a good throw, good trajectory and velocity, pretty well placed. the luck of the play came in after that point.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Ralphie said:
@ PSBLAKE said:
If Brady or Brees or Rodgers had thrown that pass there would have been a lot more said about how good of a pass it was. Instead most are talking about the catch or how it was a miracle. This was a well executed play with an almost perfect throw. Honestly the miracle part was Williams falling down and knocking out Crowley.
Yup. Case was just lucky. If it was Brady, Erin or Rapelesberger, it would have been described as "brilliant" and a "well placed dagger or laser".
This kid set the NCAA record for passing yards, completions and TD's and is routinely dismissed as some kind of Danny Wuerffel wanna-be.
Im not dissing Case here, just your choice of stats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NC...ds_leaders
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/lea...areer.html ( not #1 in this as stated, but interestingly enough we have 3 of the top 20 on our roster!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NC...ns_leaders
you may not want him compared to Danny Wuerffel, but those stats that you are trying to use to support Case show that he is in fact in the company of a lot players whose pro career very much resembles wuerffels. not saying Case's career will have the same results, just nothing supported by your stats.
nobody is dissing this particular throw, not sure where that is coming from... and the reason that those others get more respect... they've earned it through years of making throws like that. the throw was a good throw, good trajectory and velocity, pretty well placed. the luck of the play came in after that point.
OK...I'm confused. He is the #1 college QB for the three stats I mentioned. Yes, it's the U of Houston and not Alabama and I know that doesn't guarantee a HOF career, but he's not some Division 2 schlub beating up North Eastern Arkansas A&M.
Who knows where he'll be in 2, 3 or 5 years, but for now the kids playing his heart out with ice-water for blood. He deserves some of the credit for this fantastic run, not the "well, but" excuses some are making.
Quote: @SFVikingFan said:
@ A1Janitor said:
After taking a sack.
Yes, and a hard one at that.
Huh? A sack would have ended the game. Maybe you are watching a different game. :devil
Quote: @greediron said:
@ SFVikingFan said:
@ A1Janitor said:
After taking a sack.
Yes, and a hard one at that.
Huh? A sack would have ended the game. Maybe you are watching a different game. :devil
Whoops, not a sack, but a hard hit. He got blasted on the incomplete pass to McKinnon the play before.
The throw was nice. As Jimmy says, maybe the best velocity we've seen from Keenum this year. And it was absolutely necessary. A floater and this game doesn't end well. The time afforded Keenum to step into his throw was also key.
But the real thing of beauty, as Greed says, was Diggs high pointing the ball. If Diggs had just drifted to where the ball was going, his momentum probably carries him out of bounds. The high-velocity deep rope combined with Diggs' ability to stop his outward momentum and leap about 11 feet in the air to stop the ball was pretty extraordinary. Clearly, the whiffing Marcus Williams expected him to be a couple yards closer to the sideline.
Diggs and Thielen both have a pretty good catch radius. Diggs played that pass perfectly, tracking it the whole way, being at the right depth and making a great leap. Think of the Falcons last play. They go to their best WR, but he slipped and fell down and then the play was busted.
Read somewhere that they practice 7 Heaven every week and it showed. The throw was on the money, the routes, the catch. It was winning football in all its splendor.
Quote: @Ralphie said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Ralphie said:
@ PSBLAKE said:
If Brady or Brees or Rodgers had thrown that pass there would have been a lot more said about how good of a pass it was. Instead most are talking about the catch or how it was a miracle. This was a well executed play with an almost perfect throw. Honestly the miracle part was Williams falling down and knocking out Crowley.
Yup. Case was just lucky. If it was Brady, Erin or Rapelesberger, it would have been described as "brilliant" and a "well placed dagger or laser".
This kid set the NCAA record for passing yards, completions and TD's and is routinely dismissed as some kind of Danny Wuerffel wanna-be.
Im not dissing Case here, just your choice of stats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NC...ds_leaders
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/lea...areer.html ( not #1 in this as stated, but interestingly enough we have 3 of the top 20 on our roster!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NC...ns_leaders
you may not want him compared to Danny Wuerffel, but those stats that you are trying to use to support Case show that he is in fact in the company of a lot players whose pro career very much resembles wuerffels. not saying Case's career will have the same results, just nothing supported by your stats.
nobody is dissing this particular throw, not sure where that is coming from... and the reason that those others get more respect... they've earned it through years of making throws like that. the throw was a good throw, good trajectory and velocity, pretty well placed. the luck of the play came in after that point.
OK...I'm confused. He is the #1 college QB for the three stats I mentioned. Yes, it's the U of Houston and not Alabama and I know that doesn't guarantee a HOF career, but he's not some Division 2 schlub beating up North Eastern Arkansas A&M.
Who knows where he'll be in 2, 3 or 5 years, but for now the kids playing his heart out with ice-water for blood. He deserves some of the credit for this fantastic run, not the "well, but" excuses some are making.
whats so confusing? you are saying that he isnt a danny wuerffel, and give those stats to support your claim, but those ranks are littered with danny wuerffel type pro QBs.( yes danny is on at least one of them) The stats dont support your claim. not saying your claim is wrong, or the stats arent impressive, they just dont support each other.
also they have nothing to do with what he has or is doing in the pros. the conversations arent about what he is doing now, its what is he worth going forward based on what we have seen this year and in the past.
What makes his accuracy is his ability to read coverage. He doesnt force the ball, his rainbow throws are always one on one type coverages with the ball placed away from defenders.
Even the INT, it was a bad throw with too much air, but that read was golden. The WR flashed open up the sideline between the CB/Safety zone.
It starts with understanding matchups and coverages and ends with the ball going to a target who ends up running to open space.
Jimmy, I'm not trying to pick a fight but evidently you didn't read my entire post because I said:
"Yes, it's the U of Houston and not Alabama and I know that doesn't guarantee a HOF career..."
[*]Yes, it's the Cougars. And I know stats don't necessarily translate to the pros, but 19,217 yards passing, 155 TD's and 1546 completions is pretty darn impressive by anyone's standards. And my "claim" is that while a college player stats don't prove anything by themselves, in this instance with the prolific records he set, it tells me he's been called on to deliver for his team...as these awards do attest to:
2× Sammy Baugh Trophy (2009, 2011)
2× Conference USA Most Valuable Player (2009, 2011)
Conference USA Offensive Player of the Year (2008)
Conference USA Freshman of the Year (2007)
[*]Forgive me for being a bit testy about this, but IMO, far too many are awaiting Case to come crashing back to earth. Personally, I find him to be a winner. Someone said he reminds them a bit of Favre. Maybe, but I don't see the reckless abandon Favre demonstrated. But like Favre, he never quits.
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