Quote: @"prairieghost" said:
Since he's going, I wish he'd go to Arizona. The Cards have a real good D. No, there's no QB in place but there will be good ones on the market (including some of ours, unfortunately). They have one of the best RBs in the league as well. There's a very good group there to work with. What do the Giants have?? A downward going Eli, a horrible O-line, no RB, and an overpriced no good defense. Best of luck Pat, that's a big job to take on...
Edit: Yes, they have OBJ, Shepard and Evan Engram on O. That is pretty strong but isn't enough because of the rest of the mess.
I think the recently opened Titan job would be pretty attractive to Shurmur, young up and coming QB, decent talent around, and about 54 million in cap space with about 45 players signed, the cards job is a bit more of a mess, with less cap space to work with and he would be in the NFC west with the up and coming niners and rams, and the still formidable seahawks.
I cant imagine anybody wanting the NY job, I mean somebody will want it, but its hardly the peach that some would think it would be. Its NY for crying out loud, the media are jackals, the expectations are astounding, and your roster is pretty much set and you dont have shit for cap space to work with.
McDaniel is the odds on favorite for Indy...Matty Party to the lions...
Hate that this goes down in playoffs!!
Quote: @"JimmyinSD" said:
@"prairieghost" said:
Since he's going, I wish he'd go to Arizona. The Cards have a real good D. No, there's no QB in place but there will be good ones on the market (including some of ours, unfortunately). They have one of the best RBs in the league as well. There's a very good group there to work with. What do the Giants have?? A downward going Eli, a horrible O-line, no RB, and an overpriced no good defense. Best of luck Pat, that's a big job to take on...
Edit: Yes, they have OBJ, Shepard and Evan Engram on O. That is pretty strong but isn't enough because of the rest of the mess.
I think the recently opened Titan job would be pretty attractive to Shurmur, young up and coming QB, decent talent around, and about 54 million in cap space with about 45 players signed, the cards job is a bit more of a mess, with less cap space to work with and he would be in the NFC west with the up and coming niners and rams, and the still formidable seahawks.
I cant imagine anybody wanting the NY job, I mean somebody will want it, but its hardly the peach that some would think it would be. Its NY for crying out loud, the media are jackals, the expectations are astounding, and your roster is pretty much set and you dont have shit for cap space to work with.
Oh, yeah you are right about that Jimmy. I still can't believe that the Titans let go of Mularkey. Like Happy said in the Titans thread, maybe our former TE could return here as our new offensive coordinator since for all intents and purposes it looks like Shurmur is moving on. I would give that a thumb's up.
Quote: @"JimmyinSD" said:
@"prairieghost" said:
Since he's going, I wish he'd go to Arizona. The Cards have a real good D. No, there's no QB in place but there will be good ones on the market (including some of ours, unfortunately). They have one of the best RBs in the league as well. There's a very good group there to work with. What do the Giants have?? A downward going Eli, a horrible O-line, no RB, and an overpriced no good defense. Best of luck Pat, that's a big job to take on...
Edit: Yes, they have OBJ, Shepard and Evan Engram on O. That is pretty strong but isn't enough because of the rest of the mess.
I think the recently opened Titan job would be pretty attractive to Shurmur, young up and coming QB, decent talent around, and about 54 million in cap space with about 45 players signed, the cards job is a bit more of a mess, with less cap space to work with and he would be in the NFC west with the up and coming niners and rams, and the still formidable seahawks.
I cant imagine anybody wanting the NY job, I mean somebody will want it, but its hardly the peach that some would think it would be. Its NY for crying out loud, the media are jackals, the expectations are astounding, and your roster is pretty much set and you dont have shit for cap space to work with.
I heard from a source I'll keep to myself that the Giants was the most likely destination. And many of the reasons given were the same as the reasons you're giving for NOT wanting the job. It's NYC. It's high profile. And the media there is no worse there than the media anywhere. Think of the beat writers in Mpls. And I can tell you that they're just as ruthless in Denver. Another reason given is the Mara family. From what I've heard, they're one of the more respected ownership families in the NFL. Another reason is that he'd have the #2 overall pick. He can start fresh with his own QB.
Quote: @"MaroonBells" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"prairieghost" said:
Since he's going, I wish he'd go to Arizona. The Cards have a real good D. No, there's no QB in place but there will be good ones on the market (including some of ours, unfortunately). They have one of the best RBs in the league as well. There's a very good group there to work with. What do the Giants have?? A downward going Eli, a horrible O-line, no RB, and an overpriced no good defense. Best of luck Pat, that's a big job to take on...
Edit: Yes, they have OBJ, Shepard and Evan Engram on O. That is pretty strong but isn't enough because of the rest of the mess.
I think the recently opened Titan job would be pretty attractive to Shurmur, young up and coming QB, decent talent around, and about 54 million in cap space with about 45 players signed, the cards job is a bit more of a mess, with less cap space to work with and he would be in the NFC west with the up and coming niners and rams, and the still formidable seahawks.
I cant imagine anybody wanting the NY job, I mean somebody will want it, but its hardly the peach that some would think it would be. Its NY for crying out loud, the media are jackals, the expectations are astounding, and your roster is pretty much set and you dont have shit for cap space to work with.
I heard from a source I'll keep to myself that the Giants was the most likely destination. And many of the reasons given were the same as the reasons you're giving for NOT wanting the job. It's NYC. It's high profile. And the media there is no worse there than the media anywhere. Think of the beat writers in Mpls. And I can tell you that they're just as ruthless in Denver. Another reason given is the Mara family. From what I've heard, they're one of the more respected ownership families in the NFL. Another reason is that he'd have the #2 overall pick. He can start fresh with his own QB.
but he has no cap space to work with to rebuild that mess of an OLine and with nearly 60 players under contract he doesnt have a lot of room to add. I dont know how much cap could be freed up by getting rid of some of those contracts, but it just seems like a bit of a hand cuffed situation compared to TN. I guess time will tell.
Quote: @"MaroonBells" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"prairieghost" said:
Since he's going, I wish he'd go to Arizona. The Cards have a real good D. No, there's no QB in place but there will be good ones on the market (including some of ours, unfortunately). They have one of the best RBs in the league as well. There's a very good group there to work with. What do the Giants have?? A downward going Eli, a horrible O-line, no RB, and an overpriced no good defense. Best of luck Pat, that's a big job to take on...
Edit: Yes, they have OBJ, Shepard and Evan Engram on O. That is pretty strong but isn't enough because of the rest of the mess.
I think the recently opened Titan job would be pretty attractive to Shurmur, young up and coming QB, decent talent around, and about 54 million in cap space with about 45 players signed, the cards job is a bit more of a mess, with less cap space to work with and he would be in the NFC west with the up and coming niners and rams, and the still formidable seahawks.
I cant imagine anybody wanting the NY job, I mean somebody will want it, but its hardly the peach that some would think it would be. Its NY for crying out loud, the media are jackals, the expectations are astounding, and your roster is pretty much set and you dont have shit for cap space to work with.
I heard from a source I'll keep to myself that the Giants was the most likely destination. And many of the reasons given were the same as the reasons you're giving for NOT wanting the job. It's NYC. It's high profile. And the media there is no worse there than the media anywhere. Think of the beat writers in Mpls. And I can tell you that they're just as ruthless in Denver. Another reason given is the Mara family. From what I've heard, they're one of the more respected ownership families in the NFL. Another reason is that he'd have the #2 overall pick. He can start fresh with his own QB.
It also had Bill Parcells. His coaching tree has been special.
If you can make it there ...
We all knew this was coming. Is Stefanski the guy or will Zimmer look elsewhere? I know Shurmur gets the majority of credit for the QB's, but Stefanski's role in their success can't be minimized. He was a big part of Case's turnaround from what I have heard and could determine whether Case agrees to resign or not.
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
McDaniel is the odds on favorite for Indy...Matty Party to the lions...
A healthy Andrew Luck has to be an Attractive option, I figured it be there or the Giants. I thought for sure it be a Bill Belichek disciple taking the NYG job.
Quote: @"JimmyinSD" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"prairieghost" said:
Since he's going, I wish he'd go to Arizona. The Cards have a real good D. No, there's no QB in place but there will be good ones on the market (including some of ours, unfortunately). They have one of the best RBs in the league as well. There's a very good group there to work with. What do the Giants have?? A downward going Eli, a horrible O-line, no RB, and an overpriced no good defense. Best of luck Pat, that's a big job to take on...
Edit: Yes, they have OBJ, Shepard and Evan Engram on O. That is pretty strong but isn't enough because of the rest of the mess.
I think the recently opened Titan job would be pretty attractive to Shurmur, young up and coming QB, decent talent around, and about 54 million in cap space with about 45 players signed, the cards job is a bit more of a mess, with less cap space to work with and he would be in the NFC west with the up and coming niners and rams, and the still formidable seahawks.
I cant imagine anybody wanting the NY job, I mean somebody will want it, but its hardly the peach that some would think it would be. Its NY for crying out loud, the media are jackals, the expectations are astounding, and your roster is pretty much set and you dont have shit for cap space to work with.
I heard from a source I'll keep to myself that the Giants was the most likely destination. And many of the reasons given were the same as the reasons you're giving for NOT wanting the job. It's NYC. It's high profile. And the media there is no worse there than the media anywhere. Think of the beat writers in Mpls. And I can tell you that they're just as ruthless in Denver. Another reason given is the Mara family. From what I've heard, they're one of the more respected ownership families in the NFL. Another reason is that he'd have the #2 overall pick. He can start fresh with his own QB.
but he has no cap space to work with to rebuild that mess of an OLine and with nearly 60 players under contract he doesnt have a lot of room to add. I dont know how much cap could be freed up by getting rid of some of those contracts, but it just seems like a bit of a hand cuffed situation compared to TN. I guess time will tell.
The NYG job is a train wreck waiting to happen with all the reasons you listed. The only thing they got going for them is the Market, if your into that.
I don't know how many years Zimmer has left, but if i was Shurmur I would have stayed here to take over in a few years, but I guess he probably needs to strike while the irons hot.
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