Quote: @"FLVike" said:
@"jargomcfargo" said:
Wilson won't come to the Vikings, which I see as a blessing!
Not that I want him to come but any QB in their right mind would love the chance to throw it to JJ.
I get it, but he's not going to live in Minnesota.
Quote: @"FLVike" said:
@"jargomcfargo" said:
Wilson won't come to the Vikings, which I see as a blessing!
Not that I want him to come but any QB in their right mind would love the chance to throw it to JJ.
Remember, Wilson is the guy that his head coach had to tell him to quit saying, Its Russel Wilson Time, to his team when they were down 17 points, because of Russel Wilson.
That guy is a turd and I don't think i could tune in to watch him every week.
We may be better off if we do what Apollo Creed did. Give an unknown a chance.
Tidbits on Russell Wilson over the past two years.
The Athletic has a juicy report out today, featuring all sorts of details about Russell Wilson's strange and disastrous first season in Denver. The story lays out how Wilson got to Denver in the first place— he asked the Seahawks to fire head coach Pete Carroll and GM John Schneider, and the team responded by trading him.
According to The Athletic, Wilson arrived in Denver with his own personal support staff and quarterback coach, former BYU QB Jake Heaps, and throughout the season took an active role in designing plays, compiling scouting reports, and running film sessions. The result was the Broncos attempting to run an offense that was a mixture of Wilson's concepts, which he had brought with him from Seattle, and first-year head coach Nathaniel Hackett's concepts, which he had brought from Green Bay. This led to a lot of confusion and sloppy execution. As former Broncos running back Melvin Gordon put it to The Athletic, "It was a bit much."
If there's one thing that truly stands out as odd about Wilson's position on the team, it's the fact that the Broncos gave him his own damn office above the locker room:
The Broncos gave Wilson an office at the team facility, a rare perk (Wilson did not have an office in Seattle and Heaps had only limited access to the Seahawks’ facility). Several Broncos veterans said they didn’t mind Wilson having his own office, especially because the quarterback spent so much time at the facility.
But from the outside, the existence of the office worked against Wilson when his on-field play failed to measure up. And the location of the office — on the facility’s second floor, where Broncos coaches and executives also worked — created an unusual team dynamic.
“The players were always on the first floor; they never really came up to the second floor,” one coach said. “If you came up to the second floor as a player, it honestly wasn’t a good thing because you were probably getting released.”
One offensive player said Wilson told teammates he had an “open-door policy” with his office, which to another coach seemed problematic. “So, are you a coach or are you a player?” the coach asked. “Your open door should be you sitting at your locker.”
The Athletic
https://defector.com/report-they-gave-ru...boy-office
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It would be one thing if Mr. Lets Ride were to remain humble and share credit with the rest of his teammates, as most quarterbacks tend to do. But during the Broncos Kickoff Luncheon last week, Russell said that one of the reasons he agreed to join the Broncos is because he "didn't have to carry the team on his shoulders alone."
Based on his comments, Russell Wilson either shows complete lack of understanding of his role on the team; or worse, he downright deliberately attempts to re-write history in hopes people forget he won his title with majority help from an all-time defense. (Worth noting: After publication, a Broncos representative reached out to OutKick to say Wilson's comment was in reference to other teams he was considering, not Seattle.)
https://www.outkick.com/nfl/russell-wils...s-noticing
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When players watched film during the week of the past few games, they saw an endless string of open players that Wilson wasn't finding in time. Sure, the big-time plays in the fourth quarter were there, but finding the open guy in rhythm was an issue. Players saw it, and privately discussed it among themselves, sources say. Some have wondered the last few weeks if Stidham, who Payton signed early in free agency, would be better.
Payton hasn't been happy with how his offense has been running, sources say. He's seen it at a high-level with Drew Brees, and this wasn't it. They kept needing to simplify and pare it down, they struggled to get plays in and it rarely was run to the speed he wanted. Wilson made the plays off-schedule in the fourth quarter. But Payton fumed at the lack of efficiency on a regular basis. Over the past few weeks, he's weighed a decision. This week, it seems Stidham has run the offense well in practice, with optimism rising.
https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/russ...new-report
Quote: @"Still Hurtn" said:
NFL always has a few hidden gems waiting in the wings.
Think of the start and finish of some of these players.
Favre a back up in Atlanta
Drew Brees injuried then traded to NO
Cunningham coming out of retirement.
Rich Gannon late bloomer
Gino Smith in Seattle
Baker Mayfield this past season.
Decent list of QB's who find success on other teams or later in their career.
Any QB's currently out there how have that potential?
Mayfield's best years maybe ahead of him?? The issue with Mayfield is that he will be trying to get a long term contract (like Kirk) now that he has proven to be able to get a team to the playoffs.
Gardner Minshew and Jake Browning (both age 27) might be decent bridge QB's on the cheap as well. Spotrac has them both getting 2 year contracts for about 5 million per.
So, if Kirk wants too many years for too much money, we are drafting a round 1 QB and looking for a veteran bridge probably of higher caliber of Minshew and Browning but it wouldn't be the end of my world if we use all that savings and get JJ, Hunter, and Darrisaw in the fold for the long term. Of course, we can take the risk and pay Kirk his 45 million for 3 years while looking for the QB successor, but I am ready to cut the ties based on age/injury/recovery chances. I'm worried that will tie up 45-50 million and Kirk never gets back to 100% of reinjures 5 games in and we are now stuck throwing in the Mullins/Dobbs again.
Wilson looks like "McNabb II: the Revenge" to me-
Doesn't look or sound "hungry", anymore.
Makes just enough big plays to convince his fan base...
...but not enough to save his job.
Bought into his own hype, just as his stock was about to crash.
Got big money, and even bigger regrets, from his next team.
Quote: @"DeepFreeze05" said:
Tidbits on Russell Wilson over the past two years.
The Athletic has a juicy report out today, featuring all sorts of details about Russell Wilson's strange and disastrous first season in Denver. The story lays out how Wilson got to Denver in the first place— he asked the Seahawks to fire head coach Pete Carroll and GM John Schneider, and the team responded by trading him.
According to The Athletic, Wilson arrived in Denver with his own personal support staff and quarterback coach, former BYU QB Jake Heaps, and throughout the season took an active role in designing plays, compiling scouting reports, and running film sessions. The result was the Broncos attempting to run an offense that was a mixture of Wilson's concepts, which he had brought with him from Seattle, and first-year head coach Nathaniel Hackett's concepts, which he had brought from Green Bay. This led to a lot of confusion and sloppy execution. As former Broncos running back Melvin Gordon put it to The Athletic, "It was a bit much."
If there's one thing that truly stands out as odd about Wilson's position on the team, it's the fact that the Broncos gave him his own damn office above the locker room:
The Broncos gave Wilson an office at the team facility, a rare perk (Wilson did not have an office in Seattle and Heaps had only limited access to the Seahawks’ facility). Several Broncos veterans said they didn’t mind Wilson having his own office, especially because the quarterback spent so much time at the facility.
But from the outside, the existence of the office worked against Wilson when his on-field play failed to measure up. And the location of the office — on the facility’s second floor, where Broncos coaches and executives also worked — created an unusual team dynamic.
“The players were always on the first floor; they never really came up to the second floor,” one coach said. “If you came up to the second floor as a player, it honestly wasn’t a good thing because you were probably getting released.”
One offensive player said Wilson told teammates he had an “open-door policy” with his office, which to another coach seemed problematic. “So, are you a coach or are you a player?” the coach asked. “Your open door should be you sitting at your locker.”
The Athletic
https://defector.com/report-they-gave-ru...boy-office
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It would be one thing if Mr. Lets Ride were to remain humble and share credit with the rest of his teammates, as most quarterbacks tend to do. But during the Broncos Kickoff Luncheon last week, Russell said that one of the reasons he agreed to join the Broncos is because he "didn't have to carry the team on his shoulders alone."
Based on his comments, Russell Wilson either shows complete lack of understanding of his role on the team; or worse, he downright deliberately attempts to re-write history in hopes people forget he won his title with majority help from an all-time defense. (Worth noting: After publication, a Broncos representative reached out to OutKick to say Wilson's comment was in reference to other teams he was considering, not Seattle.)
https://www.outkick.com/nfl/russell-wils...s-noticing
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When players watched film during the week of the past few games, they saw an endless string of open players that Wilson wasn't finding in time. Sure, the big-time plays in the fourth quarter were there, but finding the open guy in rhythm was an issue. Players saw it, and privately discussed it among themselves, sources say. Some have wondered the last few weeks if Stidham, who Payton signed early in free agency, would be better.
Payton hasn't been happy with how his offense has been running, sources say. He's seen it at a high-level with Drew Brees, and this wasn't it. They kept needing to simplify and pare it down, they struggled to get plays in and it rarely was run to the speed he wanted. Wilson made the plays off-schedule in the fourth quarter. But Payton fumed at the lack of efficiency on a regular basis. Over the past few weeks, he's weighed a decision. This week, it seems Stidham has run the offense well in practice, with optimism rising.
https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/russ...new-report
Interesting stuff here. I think while Wilson has a degree of upside--he was a very good QB at one point and he's still only 35--all of the above baggage would seem too much for a team who values culture as much as the Vikings do.
Quote: @"MaroonBells" said:
@"DeepFreeze05" said:
Tidbits on Russell Wilson over the past two years.
The Athletic has a juicy report out today, featuring all sorts of details about Russell Wilson's strange and disastrous first season in Denver. The story lays out how Wilson got to Denver in the first place— he asked the Seahawks to fire head coach Pete Carroll and GM John Schneider, and the team responded by trading him.
According to The Athletic, Wilson arrived in Denver with his own personal support staff and quarterback coach, former BYU QB Jake Heaps, and throughout the season took an active role in designing plays, compiling scouting reports, and running film sessions. The result was the Broncos attempting to run an offense that was a mixture of Wilson's concepts, which he had brought with him from Seattle, and first-year head coach Nathaniel Hackett's concepts, which he had brought from Green Bay. This led to a lot of confusion and sloppy execution. As former Broncos running back Melvin Gordon put it to The Athletic, "It was a bit much."
If there's one thing that truly stands out as odd about Wilson's position on the team, it's the fact that the Broncos gave him his own damn office above the locker room:
The Broncos gave Wilson an office at the team facility, a rare perk (Wilson did not have an office in Seattle and Heaps had only limited access to the Seahawks’ facility). Several Broncos veterans said they didn’t mind Wilson having his own office, especially because the quarterback spent so much time at the facility.
But from the outside, the existence of the office worked against Wilson when his on-field play failed to measure up. And the location of the office — on the facility’s second floor, where Broncos coaches and executives also worked — created an unusual team dynamic.
“The players were always on the first floor; they never really came up to the second floor,” one coach said. “If you came up to the second floor as a player, it honestly wasn’t a good thing because you were probably getting released.”
One offensive player said Wilson told teammates he had an “open-door policy” with his office, which to another coach seemed problematic. “So, are you a coach or are you a player?” the coach asked. “Your open door should be you sitting at your locker.”
The Athletic
https://defector.com/report-they-gave-ru...boy-office
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It would be one thing if Mr. Lets Ride were to remain humble and share credit with the rest of his teammates, as most quarterbacks tend to do. But during the Broncos Kickoff Luncheon last week, Russell said that one of the reasons he agreed to join the Broncos is because he "didn't have to carry the team on his shoulders alone."
Based on his comments, Russell Wilson either shows complete lack of understanding of his role on the team; or worse, he downright deliberately attempts to re-write history in hopes people forget he won his title with majority help from an all-time defense. (Worth noting: After publication, a Broncos representative reached out to OutKick to say Wilson's comment was in reference to other teams he was considering, not Seattle.)
https://www.outkick.com/nfl/russell-wils...s-noticing
--------------------------------------------------------------
When players watched film during the week of the past few games, they saw an endless string of open players that Wilson wasn't finding in time. Sure, the big-time plays in the fourth quarter were there, but finding the open guy in rhythm was an issue. Players saw it, and privately discussed it among themselves, sources say. Some have wondered the last few weeks if Stidham, who Payton signed early in free agency, would be better.
Payton hasn't been happy with how his offense has been running, sources say. He's seen it at a high-level with Drew Brees, and this wasn't it. They kept needing to simplify and pare it down, they struggled to get plays in and it rarely was run to the speed he wanted. Wilson made the plays off-schedule in the fourth quarter. But Payton fumed at the lack of efficiency on a regular basis. Over the past few weeks, he's weighed a decision. This week, it seems Stidham has run the offense well in practice, with optimism rising.
https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/russ...new-report
Interesting stuff here. I think while Wilson has a degree of upside--he was a very good QB at one point and he's still only 35--all of the above baggage would seem too much for a team who values culture as much as the Vikings do.
Agreed! Wilson as a bridge QB for the Vikings would be a terrible idea. He's more likely to divide the locker room than unite the team and mentor a rookie. He's all about Russ!
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