Man, still 11 games to go...

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@Mattyman said:


SF, Dallas and Philly are better than the Vikings.

Really hard to imagine that changing in 11 weeks.

  

Are they really that MUCH better though?   Had the Vikings not had the stupid fumbles at Philly they played right with them.   I don't know.

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This Bears offense put a 40 burger on a decent Commanders defense on the road last week.   To hold them to 13 is pretty good performance

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@Chuckf said:
This Bears offense put a 40 burger on a decent Commanders defense on the road last week.   To hold them to 13 is pretty good performance

and the Bears D was the worst for keeping teams off the score board,  but our offense yesterday made them look legit,  this team is not close to being a competitor in their own division let alone mentioned with the best of the conference.

people like to say,  well if we hadnt fumbled here or we hadnt thrown this INT there,  but thats a foolish notion,  we have no idea how things early in the game would have affected the rest of the game,  Phillys play calling likely is situational, they take higher risks when needed which likely result in bigger gains,  but also the chance for turnovers of their own,  but considering how inept our D was to start the season,  its probably more likely they still win at home.

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I think we are at the point where KOC needs to seriously consider brining in either a play calling OC, or a game manager to take the game day HC duties,  he just seems to not be able to handle both duties very well.  Kind of like KAM needs to bring in a draft/scouting specialist.

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@Viking1987 said:
I'm not sure philly is 

I mean I absolutely hate Philly but you must be joking right? I mean come on now?

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@StickyBun said:
https://www.si.com/nfl/vikings/news/3-ta...et-offense

KOC says he can fix it.  I hope he is right, cause it has been broken.  Its almost like the O totally lost focus since they were really good last year. 

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@Vikergirl said:

@Viking1987 said:
I'm not sure philly is 

I mean I absolutely hate Philly but you must be joking right? I mean come on now?

I hate Philly as well.

I hate them even more after yesterday.  I had a 5 play parlay that everything hit on for $350 except the Eagles choked

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@JimmyinSD said:
I think we are at the point where KOC needs to seriously consider brining in either a play calling OC, or a game manager to take the game day HC duties,  he just seems to not be able to handle both duties very well.  Kind of like KAM needs to bring in a draft/scouting specialist.

Ever since they tried to evolve from 22 to 2023 with more heavy sets the offense is just "off."

 the Vikings were also a -9 in turnover ratio going into the Bears game. So that is a huge problem - probably correlates the most with their having a losing record. 

 I agree with @Tyr, the defensive coaching seems just fine, the offense not so much. I'm not sure how much of it is scheme vs situational football vs players just playing mediocre. 

 I will be sad if Flores leaves in 24. 

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@purplefaithful said:

@JimmyinSD said:
I think we are at the point where KOC needs to seriously consider brining in either a play calling OC, or a game manager to take the game day HC duties,  he just seems to not be able to handle both duties very well.  Kind of like KAM needs to bring in a draft/scouting specialist.

Ever since they tried to evolve from 22 to 2023 with more heavy sets the offense is just "off."

 the Vikings were also a -9 in turnover ratio going into the Bears game. So that is a huge problem - probably correlates the most with their having a losing record. 

 I agree with @Tyr, the defensive coaching seems just fine, the offense not so much. I'm not sure how much of it is scheme vs situational football vs players just playing mediocre. 

 I will be sad if Flores leaves in 24. 

I am mostly ok with the defense,  we need better players, but I dont like seeing off coverage when you know you are going to blitz,  i have never understood a free release from the LOS when you are going to send more rushers ( leaving more holes for routes) if you are going to speed up the QBs process,  dont give his targets a free release to those vacated zones,  but the D is coming around.  definitely need to add a couple DTs that can create pressure in the QBs face without the need to send 5 and 6 guys.