Quote: @AGRforever said:
The crazy things are:
1. Feds, not enough evidence
2. NY state, not enough evidence
3. Local level, 34 counts worth of evidence!!!!!
4. Even if you accept that he was 100% guilty of every bit of it they claim. The penial code they’re charging gim with has a 5 year statute of limitations and we’re past that point.
all this is about is keeping his name smeared in the news for the next year and a half to derail his campaign efforts. It just proves that they are scared of him, which IMO gives credence to his campaign, if they really thought he had no chance or was an unelectable buffoon they wouldnt have to play this desperate of a card. If I was a NY tax payer though, I would be pissed as hell that they are wasting my tax dollars like this, but Im not so... oh well. but this will certainly set a shitty precedent and you know damn well that we will see a conservative response at some point, but it will only escalate.
Good lord. If he broke the law, he broke the law, being President doesn't make you immune. Does anyone here falsify business records?
If NYC wants to prosecute businesses for illegal actions, they should. The taxpayers should be happy that the city is prosecuting cheats, liars, and crooks. That's where taxpayer money should go. His CFO was found guilty, is there a witch hunt for Allan Weisselberg? His attorney was found guilty of the crime of falsification. Do we want accountability in the judicial system or not?
This is a weak case but still a case. The bigger ones are coming, not just to derail his campaign, because he is a potential crook and fraud. But if you feel that he needs money, donate to him for his campaign err legal fund. Just make sure the campaign money isn't paid to pay off porn stars like it was in 2016
Let me guess, conservatives now want to defund the police and DOJ
Quote: @Skodin said:
Let me guess, conservatives now want to defund the police and DOJ
And you would guess wrong. Defund the police is a solid BLUE team goal. Conservatives are more interested in depoliticizing the DOJ and urging them to enforce the law more uniformly.
Quote: @Skodin said:
Good lord. If he broke the law, he broke the law, being President doesn't make you immune. Does anyone here falsify business records?
If NYC wants to prosecute businesses for illegal actions, they should. The taxpayers should be happy that the city is prosecuting cheats, liars, and crooks. That's where taxpayer money should go. His CFO was found guilty, is there a witch hunt for Allan Weisselberg? His attorney was found guilty of the crime of falsification. Do we want accountability in the judicial system or not?
This is a weak case but still a case. The bigger ones are coming, not just to derail his campaign, because he is a potential crook and fraud. But if you feel that he needs money, donate to him for his campaign err legal fund. Just make sure the campaign money isn't paid to pay off porn stars like it was in 2016
Let me guess, conservatives now want to defund the police and DOJ
let me ask, why start here? is he the biggest fish to fry? is he the biggest crook in NY? hell the statute of limitations on the case has past so its really a non-winable case for NY, this is 100% about derailing his campaign and zero about justice in NY, but like I said, not my candidate, not my tax money, but I am afraid that we will see more of this stupid bull shit in the future and the real losers will be the American voter/ tax payer.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Skodin said:
Good lord. If he broke the law, he broke the law, being President doesn't make you immune. Does anyone here falsify business records?
If NYC wants to prosecute businesses for illegal actions, they should. The taxpayers should be happy that the city is prosecuting cheats, liars, and crooks. That's where taxpayer money should go. His CFO was found guilty, is there a witch hunt for Allan Weisselberg? His attorney was found guilty of the crime of falsification. Do we want accountability in the judicial system or not?
This is a weak case but still a case. The bigger ones are coming, not just to derail his campaign, because he is a potential crook and fraud. But if you feel that he needs money, donate to him for his campaign err legal fund. Just make sure the campaign money isn't paid to pay off porn stars like it was in 2016
Let me guess, conservatives now want to defund the police and DOJ
let me ask, why start here? is he the biggest fish to fry? is he the biggest crook in NY? hell the statute of limitations on the case has past so its really a non-winable case for NY, this is 100% about derailing his campaign and zero about justice in NY, but like I said, not my candidate, not my tax money, but I am afraid that we will see more of this stupid bull shit in the future and the real losers will be the American voter/ tax payer.
It's election campaign finance fraud for the highest ranking position in the land, it needs to be tried considering how fucking bad campaign finance is broken. It's also been ongoing for years now starting with Cohen. If Trump wasn't running for POTUS again in 2024, then would this be acceptable? Are the next cases on his plate only about stopping his campaign or they are about the justice?
Quote: @IDVikingfan said:
@ Skodin said:
Let me guess, conservatives now want to defund the police and DOJ
And you would guess wrong. Defund the police is a solid BLUE team goal. Conservatives are more interested in depoliticizing the DOJ and urging them to enforce the law more uniformly
"should defund the DOJ and FBI until they come to their senses."
-Donald J Trump, April 5th
Quote: @IDVikingfan said:
@ Skodin said:
Let me guess, conservatives now want to defund the police and DOJ
And you would guess wrong. Defund the police is a solid BLUE team goal. Conservatives are more interested in depoliticizing the DOJ and urging them to enforce the law more uniformly.
“We control the power of the purse, and that’s, we’re gonna have to look at the appropriations process and limit funds going to some of these agencies, particularly the ones who are engaging in the most egregious behavior,”
-Gym Jordan, April 6th
Quote: @Skodin said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Skodin said:
Good lord. If he broke the law, he broke the law, being President doesn't make you immune. Does anyone here falsify business records?
If NYC wants to prosecute businesses for illegal actions, they should. The taxpayers should be happy that the city is prosecuting cheats, liars, and crooks. That's where taxpayer money should go. His CFO was found guilty, is there a witch hunt for Allan Weisselberg? His attorney was found guilty of the crime of falsification. Do we want accountability in the judicial system or not?
This is a weak case but still a case. The bigger ones are coming, not just to derail his campaign, because he is a potential crook and fraud. But if you feel that he needs money, donate to him for his campaign err legal fund. Just make sure the campaign money isn't paid to pay off porn stars like it was in 2016
Let me guess, conservatives now want to defund the police and DOJ
let me ask, why start here? is he the biggest fish to fry? is he the biggest crook in NY? hell the statute of limitations on the case has past so its really a non-winable case for NY, this is 100% about derailing his campaign and zero about justice in NY, but like I said, not my candidate, not my tax money, but I am afraid that we will see more of this stupid bull shit in the future and the real losers will be the American voter/ tax payer.
It's election campaign finance fraud for the highest ranking position in the land, it needs to be tried considering how fucking bad campaign finance is broken. It's also been ongoing for years now starting with Cohen. If Trump wasn't running for POTUS again in 2024, then would this be acceptable? Are the next cases on his plate only about stopping his campaign or they are about the justice?
Didnt hillarys campaign finance the bull shit russian story against trump? seems that would be fraud as well, where are those charges? like I said, if this is the direction we want to go, so be it, but if there is no over-sight and no rules, this will become the way our dictators gain power. once one party gains power they will use the federal government and lower branches to do what ever they can to maintain control.
as far as acceptable, no, it shouldnt be, my understanding is that the statute of limitations has expired on these charges, and this whole thing wont stand up through the appeals process (assuming a corrupt NY judge over looks the laws and Trump is found guilty) like I said, this is a political ploy, nothing more.
Quote: @Skodin said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
@ Skodin said:
Let me guess, conservatives now want to defund the police and DOJ
And you would guess wrong. Defund the police is a solid BLUE team goal. Conservatives are more interested in depoliticizing the DOJ and urging them to enforce the law more uniformly.
“We control the power of the purse, and that’s, we’re gonna have to look at the appropriations process and limit funds going to some of these agencies, particularly the ones who are engaging in the most egregious behavior,”
-Gym Jordan, April 6th
You originally stated "police" not FBI. Many BLUE state mayors, governors, state legislators, and House members have run on a defund the police platform, meaning defund local police. It would be rare to find a conservative that wants to defund the local police force.
AG Garland and the DOJ have certainly politicized the FBI. For example, the Mar-a-Lago raid for documents versus the non-raid on Biden's Delaware homes and non-presidential offices. Another example is the 2 year plus investigation of the Hunter Biden computer. As Wray says, can't talk about an on-going investigation. Maybe they will release the results after the 2024 election.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ Skodin said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Skodin said:
Good lord. If he broke the law, he broke the law, being President doesn't make you immune. Does anyone here falsify business records?
If NYC wants to prosecute businesses for illegal actions, they should. The taxpayers should be happy that the city is prosecuting cheats, liars, and crooks. That's where taxpayer money should go. His CFO was found guilty, is there a witch hunt for Allan Weisselberg? His attorney was found guilty of the crime of falsification. Do we want accountability in the judicial system or not?
This is a weak case but still a case. The bigger ones are coming, not just to derail his campaign, because he is a potential crook and fraud. But if you feel that he needs money, donate to him for his campaign err legal fund. Just make sure the campaign money isn't paid to pay off porn stars like it was in 2016
Let me guess, conservatives now want to defund the police and DOJ
let me ask, why start here? is he the biggest fish to fry? is he the biggest crook in NY? hell the statute of limitations on the case has past so its really a non-winable case for NY, this is 100% about derailing his campaign and zero about justice in NY, but like I said, not my candidate, not my tax money, but I am afraid that we will see more of this stupid bull shit in the future and the real losers will be the American voter/ tax payer.
It's election campaign finance fraud for the highest ranking position in the land, it needs to be tried considering how fucking bad campaign finance is broken. It's also been ongoing for years now starting with Cohen. If Trump wasn't running for POTUS again in 2024, then would this be acceptable? Are the next cases on his plate only about stopping his campaign or they are about the justice?
Didnt hillarys campaign finance the bull shit russian story against trump? seems that would be fraud as well, where are those charges? like I said, if this is the direction we want to go, so be it, but if there is no over-sight and no rules, this will become the way our dictators gain power. once one party gains power they will use the federal government and lower branches to do what ever they can to maintain control.
as far as acceptable, no, it shouldnt be, my understanding is that the statute of limitations has expired on these charges, and this whole thing wont stand up through the appeals process (assuming a corrupt NY judge over looks the laws and Trump is found guilty) like I said, this is a political ploy, nothing more.
Here we go buttery males. TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT FOR 4 YEARS, WHY DIDN'T HE PRESS HIS DOJ TO CHARGE HER? That's right, he had Jeff Sessions look into it and they found nothing of significance
The SoL, yeah, I am sure that the DA knows what is permissible by NY law aka "tolling" and if Trump would still be eligible. We will see what the court of appeals will have to say. If you don't want to be charged with campaign fraud, don't commit campaign finance fraud. If you do, fuck you, I don't care which party you belong to. Anyone who does is perpetuating a broken system that only benefits the elites and not the people who have voted them in.
If people are this rattled about this case, just wait until the Georgia case gets started. I would love to see how the back bending of the Trump base explain what "find me 11,000 votes" means.
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