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Some more info on the “World Saving” vaccine.
#11
Not Gateway Pundit or Zero Hedge, but interesting read:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/202...two-years/


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#12
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@AGRforever said:
So you want to hear the bad news waterboy?
Sure, but I suspect we may not agree on your take or if we do that it’s really bad news.  Smile
Your study best I can tell didn’t factor in any positives from vaccinations. 

If we take the study entirely at face value, it loses all credibility by not factoring in lives saved, recoevery times shortened and the economic impact on the flip side of the coin. 
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#13
Quote: @VikingOracle said:
Not Gateway Pundit or Zero Hedge, but interesting read:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/03/03/the-changing-political-geography-of-covid-19-over-the-last-two-years/
So, the point of the article is that the contagious virus in its strongest state attacked urban centers first and killed off the most vulnerable?  It took longer to reach the more rural Republican areas?  Man, that’s hard to figure out.  Lol The articles whole premise is that the “vaxx” was the assignable cause to your data.   Who woulda thunk? Amazing..  I immediately must conclude that you accept the spiraling all death rates in each and every highly vaxxed country in the world is due to the vaccine then, correct?   Also, it’s fun to note the timing of the study.  Your data is a year old and despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of people are not getting boosted, we still see a dramatic decrease in Covid deaths.  They’re just dying of heart attacks and leukemia now.  And, the most vulnerable have already been killed off.  And, the numbers weren’t artificially inflated by the “funding” element where hospitals received cash influxes if they had large numbers of Covid deaths. That wasn’t also the case.  SMH…
 The article makes the assumption that people are not acquiring a natural immunity to the virus which is what happens.  Viruses learn to live in their hosts and not kill them, because that would kill off the virus all together.  If you care to study up on viruses, that’s what viruses do.  They become less deadly over time as their hosts develop real immunity.  Still, the righteous among you wanted the govt to make the call to put their needle in people who wanted nothing to do with it.   This study was conducted only shortly and certainly contained data from a time when Joe and Lord Fauci were telling us that you get the jab, you don’t get Covid.  
If you want me to agree that more initial exposure to the virus occurred in urban centers, you’ve got me.  The rest of this is simply spinning numbers to say what they want them to say and ignores any reliable causation.  
How are the crime, poverty, and overall life expectancy numbers doing in these same urban centers?  It’s crazy that a virus attacked them improportionately early on.  So hard to figure out that the most vulnerable were the ones most affected early on….  Can you find an article on the latest trends?  I sincerely haven’t seen any of late, mostly because the virus and its potency seems to have died down significantly.  I’m sure it has nothing to do with a virus running its course, though.

I also must wonder why the same jab that parents were shoving down their five year olds arms are being told by the WHO that children and teens probably don’t need the vaxx.  It was essential for them just one year ago because people like Fauci said so.  
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#14
lol. Unreal. 
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#15
Quote: @Waterboy said:
  Also, it’s fun to note the timing of the study.  Your data is a year old and despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of people are not getting boosted, we still see a dramatic decrease in Covid deaths. 

Did you miss 5th grade science class?
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#16
Here this should help
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#17
You guys always show so much thought and introspection in your replies.  The government loves your type, just let them tell you how your life should be run.  Some, but not all of my information comes from a guy who recently resigned as the lead investigator on the Moderna vaccine trial.  He gave up hundreds of thousands of dollars because ethically he couldn't comply with what they're hiding.  Namely heart conditions and cancers, particularly leukemias.  But, you guys just keep getting jabbed.  It's working out quite well, and you've been right all along. lol
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#18
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@Waterboy said:
  Also, it’s fun to note the timing of the study.  Your data is a year old and despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of people are not getting boosted, we still see a dramatic decrease in Covid deaths. 

Did you miss 5th grade science class?
Is that the one teaching that windmills will save us all except for the Whales and the people that actually want their homes electricity to work more than 50% of the time?
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#19
Quote: @Waterboy said:
You guys always show so much thought and introspection in your replies.  The government loves your type, just let them tell you how your life should be run.  Some, but not all of my information comes from a guy who recently resigned as the lead investigator on the Moderna vaccine trial.  He gave up hundreds of thousands of dollars because ethically he couldn't comply with what they're hiding.  Namely heart conditions and cancers, particularly leukemias.  But, you guys just keep getting jabbed.  It's working out quite well, and you've been right all along. lol

I'm as libertarian as you're going to find. But I also know when to trust people smarter then me.  My BIL is an epidemiologist.  Probably the smartest guy I know, especially when it comes to his field. I've had many long conversations with him regarding covid and vaccinations.  I had not qualms getting vaccinated nor did we have any vaccinating our children. 

Please educate yourself on mrna before you spread misinformation about cancer/leukemia being caused by them. The ironic thing here is that mrna certainly seems to be the next big step in cancer treatment. 
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#20
Quote: @Waterboy said:
@AGRforever said:
@Waterboy said:
  Also, it’s fun to note the timing of the study.  Your data is a year old and despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of people are not getting boosted, we still see a dramatic decrease in Covid deaths. 

Did you miss 5th grade science class?
Is that the one teaching that windmills will save us all except for the Whales and the people that actually want their homes electricity to work more than 50% of the time?

I'm not sure what you're talking about?  Windmills are windmills.  They're not very effective in low wind environments.  Heck, they're not very effective in high wind environments.  Unless you're dramatically younger then I am there wasn't a windmill section in any of science classes?
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