Alright draft guys. If we're going to get the next WR, how do we get the next Jefferson and not the next Treadwell?
I would rank potential draft picks at #12 in this order;
1. Sauce
2. Hamilton
3. Stingley
4. Wilson
5. Davis
6. Olave
7. *trade down*
Quote: @AGRforever said:
Alright draft guys. If we're going to get the next WR, how do we get the next Jefferson and not the next Treadwell?
Easy...don't draft the guy that runs a 4.64/40 and can't separate.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
It's interesting. Patrick Peterson and Adam Thielen are the same age. Within a month of each other. And both need a succession plan. But, to me, one is much more urgent.
With Thielen, JJ, KJO and ISJ the rookie receiver may not contribute much in 2022. If it's an edge, he'd be rotational behind Smith and Hunter. Good picks for the future, but I think this team wants to win now.
Vikings should be careful not to overthink this. Take the corner. Last year, Kwesi was Andrew Berry's right hand man in Cleveland. 1st pick, CB. Last year, Ed Donatell was the DC in Denver. 1st pick, CB.
CB, S, WR is what I'd do in the 1st three rounds.
I agree, but do you burn the 12th pick with potentially the 3rd best CB of the draft? an undersized one at that?
Depends on what you think of McDuffie. I personally love the guy and think he could end up the best corner from this draft. Just because a bunch of media scouts think Sauce and Stingley are slam dunks doesn't mean they are. Two years ago the same was said of Okudah and Henderson, who went at 3 and 9 respectively, about where Sauce and DSJ are projected to go. Best corner from that draft, though, was AJ Terrell. And it's not even close. A guy most had pegged as a 2nd rounder this time two years ago. He ended up going 16th, but that was considered a big reach by the media.
IMO, the traits that McDuffie possesses (film junkie, student of the game, great tackler) tend to transfer well to the NFL. I know this: If it weren't for his short arms, I'd already have him #1.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
It's interesting. Patrick Peterson and Adam Thielen are the same age. Within a month of each other. And both need a succession plan. But, to me, one is much more urgent.
With Thielen, JJ, KJO and ISJ the rookie receiver may not contribute much in 2022. If it's an edge, he'd be rotational behind Smith and Hunter. Good picks for the future, but I think this team wants to win now.
Vikings should be careful not to overthink this. Take the corner. Last year, Kwesi was Andrew Berry's right hand man in Cleveland. 1st pick, CB. Last year, Ed Donatell was the DC in Denver. 1st pick, CB.
CB, S, WR is what I'd do in the 1st three rounds.
I agree, but do you burn the 12th pick with potentially the 3rd best CB of the draft? an undersized one at that?
Depends on what you think of McDuffie. I personally love the guy and think he could end up the best corner from this draft. Just because a bunch of media scouts think Sauce and Stingley are slam dunks doesn't mean they are. Two years ago the same was said of Okudah and Henderson, who went at 3 and 9 respectively, about where Sauce and DSJ are projected to go. Best corner from that draft, though, was AJ Terrell. And it's not even close. A guy most had pegged as a 2nd rounder this time two years ago. He ended up going 16th, but that was considered a big reach by the media.
IMO, the traits that McDuffie possesses (film junkie, student of the game, great tackler) tend to transfer well to the NFL. I know this: If it weren't for his short arms, I'd already have him #1.
I am probably biased as a tall guy, I know Winfield was a stud and was undersized, but I see the receivers getting taller all the time, more athletic so I have a hard time seeing him covering guys that are 4 to 5 inches taller, with longer arms and the ridiculous catch radius that we are seeing from the modern WRs. I have visions of guys catching jump balls over the top of him, much like we saw at times a few years ago ( was it mike hughes that they abusing due to his lack of height?) I am also kind of a biased against PAC teams players since I dont think they get challenged like teams from the midwest or SE.
all those things you point out are great traits, and certainly keys to becoming a good/great pro, but they wont help him win the high point battles.
I just cant do WR at #12, especially when we have much bigger needs. I would 100% rather trade down into the 20s and take a corner that way we arent reaching for the best available one at 12.
I would support a WR in the second round though. Especially if it's Alec Pierce or Skyy Moore
Quote: @Hawkvike25 said:
I just cant do WR at #12, especially when we have much bigger needs. I would 100% rather trade down into the 20s and take a corner that way we arent reaching for the best available one at 12.
I would support a WR in the second round though. Especially if it's Alec Pierce or Skyy Moore
Hell yes I want a receiver named Skyy!!!
I agree WR is a premium position and I also see the value the Vikings would get out of it. Ultimately I think the Vikings have 3 large and 1 medium need in this draft class:
1. Starting Corner (round 1/ 2)
2. Rotational Edge Rusher (round 1 - 3)
3. 5-Tech (rounds 1 - 4)
4. Interior O-line depth (round 2 - 4)
Its possible but I think you'll need to bump the trenches down as need to satisfy an early receiver. If you go receiver 1st, you likely go corner 2nd, followed by EDGE. If you mock that you can come up with some nice combinations. It ultimately depends on how early the run on pass rushers and corners come off. But if you play the order of operations game if all the players the Vikings prefer over a receiver come off the board they're going to get a crazy trade package to move back since a high-end O-lineman fell.
I think I heard somebody earlier today say that 8 of the top 12 teams have a big need at CB, kinda helps narrow the options right there.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
I think I heard somebody earlier today say that 8 of the top 12 teams have a big need at CB, kinda helps narrow the options right there.
I've accepted that neither Sauce or Stingley will be available when we pick.
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