Quote: @bigbone62 said:
@ Vikergirl said:
Maybe the change of scenery helped.
2018: Season ending torn MCL, played 6 games
2019:Season ending broken vertebra, played 14 games
2020: Season ending neck injury, played 4 games.
Granted it was only 7 career starts, but I dont recall talent being the issue with a healthy Huges when he was here. Dude missed 25 of a possible 49 games in Minnesota. He is a physical corner that plus three straight years of significant injuries I cant fault Rick for moving on. Adding Breeland on the other hand absolute dumpster fire.
I do realize his injury history and the concern about it. Sometimes a fresh start helps.
Quote: @bigbone62 said:
@ Vikergirl said:
Maybe the change of scenery helped.
2018: Season ending torn MCL, played 6 games
2019:Season ending broken vertebra, played 14 games
2020: Season ending neck injury, played 4 games.
Granted it was only 7 career starts, but I dont recall talent being the issue with a healthy Huges when he was here. Dude missed 25 of a possible 49 games in Minnesota. He is a physical corner that plus three straight years of significant injuries I cant fault Rick for moving on. Adding Breeland on the other hand absolute dumpster fire.
...and he can't hold his liquor either.
For all the handwringing about Hughes he isn't really playing all that much better now than he did in 2019. AKA the only stretch of relative health he had as a Viking. The dude missed 25 of a possible 49 career games in MN. Back to back years was shut down due to a serious neck injury, literally broke his neck.
Games/starts: 2019-14/3
2021-13/3
Comp % against: 2019-61.2%
2021-60.0%
Yards: 2019-484
2021-316
Yards a completion: 2019-11.8
2021-11.7
Yards a target: 2019-7.2
2021-7.0
TD's Allowed: 2019-3
2021-4
Int's: 2019- 1
2021- 1
Fumbles: 2019-2
2021-4
Recovered: 2019-2
2021-1
Pass Rating Against: 2019-91.9
2021-101.7
YAC: 2019-120
2021-116
Tackles: 2019-45
2021-34
Missed Tackles: 2019-6
2021-2
Quote: @bigbone62 said:
For all the handwringing about Hughes he isn't really playing all that much better now than he did in 2019. AKA the only stretch of relative health he had as a Viking. The dude missed 25 of a possible 49 career games in MN. Back to back years was shut down due to a serious neck injury, literally broke his neck.
Games/starts: 2019-14/3
2021-13/3
Comp % against: 2019-61.2%
2021-60.0%
Yards: 2019-484
2021-316
Yards a completion: 2019-11.8
2021-11.7
Yards a target: 2019-7.2
2021-7.0
TD's Allowed: 2019-3
2021-4
Int's: 2019- 1
2021- 1
Fumbles: 2019-2
2021-4
Recovered: 2019-2
2021-1
Pass Rating Against: 2019-91.9
2021-101.7
YAC: 2019-120
2021-116
Tackles: 2019-45
2021-34
Missed Tackles: 2019-6
2021-2
Stats are cool but the bottom line is he’d be starting for us and he’d have a case as our best CB. Rick sent him packing for less than peanuts. Like… just peanut shells.
Quote: @pattersaur said:
@ bigbone62 said:
For all the handwringing about Hughes he isn't really playing all that much better now than he did in 2019. AKA the only stretch of relative health he had as a Viking. The dude missed 25 of a possible 49 career games in MN. Back to back years was shut down due to a serious neck injury, literally broke his neck.
Games/starts: 2019-14/3
2021-13/3
Comp % against: 2019-61.2%
2021-60.0%
Yards: 2019-484
2021-316
Yards a completion: 2019-11.8
2021-11.7
Yards a target: 2019-7.2
2021-7.0
TD's Allowed: 2019-3
2021-4
Int's: 2019- 1
2021- 1
Fumbles: 2019-2
2021-4
Recovered: 2019-2
2021-1
Pass Rating Against: 2019-91.9
2021-101.7
YAC: 2019-120
2021-116
Tackles: 2019-45
2021-34
Missed Tackles: 2019-6
2021-2
Stats are cool but the bottom line is he’d be starting for us and he’d have a case as our best CB. Rick sent him packing for less than peanuts. Like… just peanut shells.
Really brave stance there, way to put yourself out there. If only Rick shared your hindsight powers I'm sure he would have got more.
Peanut shells? Bless your heart. Hughes tore his ACL and broke his neck in back to back seasons. Then reinjured the neck the following year.
Throw in for good measure being so drunk he puked all over a teammates car during an OWI stop. And a sexual assault allegation. Yep teams would have lined up to trade him for a 3rd round pick to a better GM.
Meh, I am done with short DBs, the receivers seem to be getting bigger all the time and the range that these diminutive corners give up gets taken advantage of, just like hand size for QBs, or arm length for OL, there needs to be a metric for size and jumping ability to help size up coverage players, if they don't have the size they need to be able to jump out of the stadium ( with pads on ) imo.
another way to Ponder this:
KC has owned the NFC this year:
beat Iggles
beat WFT
beat NYG
beat GB
beat Cowgirls
beat every NFC team theyve played, to our potential playoff benefit
Ricks a genius!
edit re: the thread title,
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Quote: @bigbone62 said:
@ pattersaur said:
@ bigbone62 said:
For all the handwringing about Hughes he isn't really playing all that much better now than he did in 2019. AKA the only stretch of relative health he had as a Viking. The dude missed 25 of a possible 49 career games in MN. Back to back years was shut down due to a serious neck injury, literally broke his neck.
Games/starts: 2019-14/3
2021-13/3
Comp % against: 2019-61.2%
2021-60.0%
Yards: 2019-484
2021-316
Yards a completion: 2019-11.8
2021-11.7
Yards a target: 2019-7.2
2021-7.0
TD's Allowed: 2019-3
2021-4
Int's: 2019- 1
2021- 1
Fumbles: 2019-2
2021-4
Recovered: 2019-2
2021-1
Pass Rating Against: 2019-91.9
2021-101.7
YAC: 2019-120
2021-116
Tackles: 2019-45
2021-34
Missed Tackles: 2019-6
2021-2
Stats are cool but the bottom line is he’d be starting for us and he’d have a case as our best CB. Rick sent him packing for less than peanuts. Like… just peanut shells.
Really brave stance there, way to put yourself out there. If only Rick shared your hindsight powers I'm sure he would have got more.
Peanut shells? Bless your heart. Hughes tore his ACL and broke his neck in back to back seasons. Then reinjured the neck the following year.
Throw in for good measure being so drunk he puked all over a teammates car during an OWI stop. And a sexual assault allegation. Yep teams would have lined up to trade him for a 3rd round pick to a better GM.
It's just too early to make a judgement on that. It's like drafting a player with character concerns who does well his 1st season. People think they got a steal, but the character concerns are always there.
If Hughes cleans up his act and stays healthy, then good for him. And good for the Chiefs. But Hughes was traded for a reason. It might take a year or two to accurately evaluate this trade.
Should of never traded him. Not that he is a great player but when you consider the investment in him in contrast to what we got in trade return, the smart play would have been to keep him and roll the dice on the neck. He is proving in KC that he would have been worth the risk
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
Should of never traded him. Not that he is a great player but when you consider the investment in him in contrast to what we got in trade return, the smart play would have been to keep him and roll the dice on the neck. He is proving in KC that he would have been worth the risk
Yep. It’s not hindsight. Most people thought this the day it was announced, and still think it now. I also think that for the low price KC paid, it’s already been a good move for them. Sure it may look even better in 2 years but as of today they got there money’s worth, IMO.
Hopefully Rick does something solid with the pick we got.
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