Quote: @"Godhead" said:
But, there is no proof the vaccine would have saved him, zero.
its a virus. It dies if it can’t find a host.
If a virus can live in you, you get sick. Viruses mutant themselves trying to stay alive in its current enviorment.
If you have a virus likeable bloodtype, chemistry (things you eat) and DNA you are probably gonna get it, vaccinated or not.
I am not sure what you consider to be proof but let me try:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/covid-variant-vaccine:
- Early research from the U.K. suggests that, after full vaccination, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is 88% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant. The vaccine is 96% effective at preventing severe disease with the COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant.
- Early research from Canada suggests that, after one dose, the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine is 72% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant. One dose of the vaccine is also 96% effective at preventing severe disease with the COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-how-well-covid-19-vaccines-work-against-the-delta-variant#Vaccines-vs.-Delta-variant
- Researchers also reported that people who had received two doses of a vaccine had significantly more protection against infection with the Delta variant, with researchers estimating a level of 95 percent effectiveness.
- A study in Canada, meanwhile, found that two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine worked just as well against the Delta variant as it did with alpha. It has not yet been peer reviewed.
- A study in ScotlandTrusted Source found similar results. The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, researchers concluded, offered “very good” protection against the Delta variant and demonstrated 79 percent effectiveness 14 days after receiving the second dose.
- A study that analyzed vaccine effectiveness in India, where the Delta variant first emerged, found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 88 percent effective against the Delta variant after two doses.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-delta-variant-and-covid-19-vaccines-what-to-know-11627079604
- While the vaccines seem to be slightly less effective at preventing symptomatic Covid-19 from the Delta variant, research has shown that they remain highly effective at preventing serious illness and hospitalization.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/a-new-strain-of-coronavirus-what-you-should-know
- Although vaccines afford very high protection, infection with the delta and other variants remain possible. Fortunately, vaccination, even among those who acquire infections, appears to prevent serious illness, hospitalization and death from COVID-19.
https://www.opb.org/article/2021/08/07/covid-19-oregon-cases-delta-variant-vaccine-health-authority/
- One out of every five COVID-19 infections reported in Oregon in July were breakthrough cases; those which were were diagnosed in people who are fully vaccinated, according to the Oregon Health Authority. It’s a discouraging number, but there’s a silver lining: vaccinated people made up just one out of ten COVID-19 deaths. The breakthrough cases that ended in death were almost exclusively in the elderly.
Quote: @"Godhead" said:
So you can take 2 shots at death.
1. By getting infected by covid.
2 . By getting injected with the sometimes it works vacine (which has killed people) and was man made.
So do you take 1 or 2 chances?
Your avatar seems fitting.
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
@"Godhead" said:
So you can take 2 shots at death.
1. By getting infected by covid.
2 . By getting injected with the sometimes it works vacine (which has killed people) and was man made.
So do you take 1 or 2 chances?
Your avatar seems fitting.
Enough of this petty shit already.
Quote: @"VikingOracle" said:
@"Godhead" said:
But, there is no proof the vaccine would have saved him, zero.
its a virus. It dies if it can’t find a host.
If a virus can live in you, you get sick. Viruses mutant themselves trying to stay alive in its current enviorment.
If you have a virus likeable bloodtype, chemistry (things you eat) and DNA you are probably gonna get it, vaccinated or not.
I am not sure what you consider to be proof but let me try:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/covid-variant-vaccine:
- Early research from the U.K. suggests that, after full vaccination, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is 88% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant. The vaccine is 96% effective at preventing severe disease with the COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant.
- Early research from Canada suggests that, after one dose, the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine is 72% effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant. One dose of the vaccine is also 96% effective at preventing severe disease with the COVID-19 virus caused by the delta variant.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/heres-how-well-covid-19-vaccines-work-against-the-delta-variant#Vaccines-vs.-Delta-variant
- Researchers also reported that people who had received two doses of a vaccine had significantly more protection against infection with the Delta variant, with researchers estimating a level of 95 percent effectiveness.
- A study in Canada, meanwhile, found that two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine worked just as well against the Delta variant as it did with alpha. It has not yet been peer reviewed.
- A study in ScotlandTrusted Source found similar results. The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, researchers concluded, offered “very good” protection against the Delta variant and demonstrated 79 percent effectiveness 14 days after receiving the second dose.
- A study that analyzed vaccine effectiveness in India, where the Delta variant first emerged, found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 88 percent effective against the Delta variant after two doses.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-delta-variant-and-covid-19-vaccines-what-to-know-11627079604
- While the vaccines seem to be slightly less effective at preventing symptomatic Covid-19 from the Delta variant, research has shown that they remain highly effective at preventing serious illness and hospitalization.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/a-new-strain-of-coronavirus-what-you-should-know
- Although vaccines afford very high protection, infection with the delta and other variants remain possible. Fortunately, vaccination, even among those who acquire infections, appears to prevent serious illness, hospitalization and death from COVID-19.
https://www.opb.org/article/2021/08/07/covid-19-oregon-cases-delta-variant-vaccine-health-authority/
- One out of every five COVID-19 infections reported in Oregon in July were breakthrough cases; those which were were diagnosed in people who are fully vaccinated, according to the Oregon Health Authority. It’s a discouraging number, but there’s a silver lining: vaccinated people made up just one out of ten COVID-19 deaths. The breakthrough cases that ended in death were almost exclusively in the elderly.
Thanks for posting all this.
If everything is part of God's plan, then I have to believe that Covid is here to teach us something. To me, if God is trying to teach us anything, it is that we are all interdependent upon each other. With Covid, we all have to be rowing in the same direction because otherwise Covid will mutate and kill more people. I think with Covid and global warming, we have reached a tipping point where people living on the other side of the world will affect us here. That is why I think we need to think globally in terms of vaccinations. Lambda is the next variant and it originated in Peru. We have the realize that everyone's existence touches upon our own and be responsible with that knowledge. I am not trying to "own" Godhead or others, I want to impart facts and make him think about his role and responsibility in the world.
I recently became FB friends with an old high school acquaintance. At the same time I was getting vaccinated, his daughter was visiting him. She was asymptomatic and he became infected. He fought it hard and died. I feel for his daughter. Personally, I don't want to have the regret that I did not do everything possible to prevent my loved ones from being infected. I read about too many people who would have acted differently if only they had a better understanding of the risks.
Interdependence on the planet has been around a long, long time. I agree Covid is just one (nasty way) that illustrates how interrelated our species is across the one planet god gave us - for this life anyway.
There is some good news happing at home though:
Covid-19 vaccinations are picking up pace, with an average of more than 464,700 people initiating their vaccinations every day as of Thursday, CDC data shows. That's the highest average daily pace in nearly seven weeks -- and a 19% increase over last week's pace.
And seeing some of the sharpest vaccination increases are several Southern states, which have for months seen poor vaccine progress and heavy vaccine hesitancy.
At the end of July, Alabama's average of new doses administered was more than double what it was three weeks before.
Louisiana saw daily vaccination rates jump 111% in the same time frame, while in Missouri daily average vaccinations climbed by 87%.
Roughly 58.5% of the US population has received at least one Covid-19 vaccine dose and roughly 50.1% is fully vaccinated, CDC data shows.
Quote: @"Mattyman" said:
@"Godhead" said:
So you can take 2 shots at death.
1. By getting infected by covid.
2 . By getting injected with the sometimes it works vacine (which has killed people) and was man made.
So do you take 1 or 2 chances?
I googled the founder of mRNA vaccines, a year ago and found Robert Malone..
IMO he's credible.
FWIW according to him, these vaccines aren't working.
It appears they're having a paradoxical effect.
...but, he was a contributor, not the inventor (as some believe)... https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/3aa2eefd
Quote: @"Zanary" said:
@"Mattyman" said:
I googled the founder of mRNA vaccines, a year ago and found Robert Malone..
IMO he's credible.
FWIW according to him, these vaccines aren't working.
It appears they're having a paradoxical effect.
...but, he was a contributor, not the inventor (as some believe)... https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/3aa2eefd
And he hasn't worked in the area for the past 30 years. It appears Malone (and his wife) are a little miffed that he is not getting any credit for these mRNA vaccines. From the second logically.ai article I linked to above:
Quote:"Malone shared with me a series of emails between his wife, Karikó, and himself. In March of this year, Malone’s wife Dr. Jill Glasspool sent Karikó an article in the New England Journal of Medicine, accusing her of erasing Malone from history. (The article was written by Dr. Angela Desmond and Dr. Paul Offit.)
Karikó replied that she acknowledges Malone and especially Felgner for their research, and cites them in her papers, even thanking Malone alongside a few others in the acknowledgments section of one. She also said that the first to use mRNA vaccines were a group of French researchers working on influenza in the early 90s, which is when she herself had been working on them. The exchange escalates through to June, with Karikó eventually asking them both to stop sending “threatening letters.” "
|
![[Image: 3nakjp4reog4.png]](https://vikefans.com/vfforums/uploads/editor/sv/3nakjp4reog4.png)