Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
Joe pigeon-holed himself a long time ago by saying he'd go woman V.P. Not saying that isn't the right choice, what I'm saying is if you're picking the best from a subpar group, its not optimal. The Right is going to crucify any of these top women contenders and rightly so, they've got skeletons....the whole 'Sleepy Joe is near death, do you want Kamala Harris's finger on the button??' angle is going to scare more votes Trump's way.
luckily team blue has a secret weapon...
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
lol, these debates are going to be a must watch shit show of surreality.
i cant do it. for the same reason I dont follow Trump on twitter, and am nauseated by the bias of the evening news.... its so fricking sad that our countries highest position comes down to these 2 people.
I know some think there is nothing wrong with Biden, but I ( and many many others) dont buy the bull shit.
he is as bad of a person as Trump is,
Here goes the comparison. But we were OK with Trump for three plus years.
the only difference is he can be handled and thus far Trump hasnt been able to be.
To me, that is a positive in Trumps column,
Really? Of course a "bad" person who can not be handled is a positive. What a world we live in.
at least Trumps dumb assery and motivation is on him, he doesnt seem to have some other country, or influencer dictating his direction.
Did you say Trump does not have an "infuencer" or country dictating his direction? OK I assume this is a bad attempt of a joke.
Biden will always make me wonder ( at least until he is replaced by his VP in 6 months) who he is actually working for although I am quite certain it wont be for the American voters that put him there.
Are you hinting at something here because everyone (with an iota of a conscience) has been asking who Trump is working for.
At some point one starts wondering if some of these posts are an attempt to get ahead of Trumps blunders. It is just mind boggling how somehow all the "fears" you listed above are being tagged on Biden when all have been asking the EXACT same things about Trump.
Quote: @mblack said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
Joe pigeon-holed himself a long time ago by saying he'd go woman V.P. Not saying that isn't the right choice, what I'm saying is if you're picking the best from a subpar group, its not optimal. The Right is going to crucify any of these top women contenders and rightly so, they've got skeletons....the whole 'Sleepy Joe is near death, do you want Kamala Harris's finger on the button??' angle is going to scare more votes Trump's way.
luckily team blue has a secret weapon...
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
lol, these debates are going to be a must watch shit show of surreality.
i cant do it. for the same reason I dont follow Trump on twitter, and am nauseated by the bias of the evening news.... its so fricking sad that our countries highest position comes down to these 2 people.
I know some think there is nothing wrong with Biden, but I ( and many many others) dont buy the bull shit.
he is as bad of a person as Trump is,
Here goes the comparison. But we were OK with Trump for three plus years.
the only difference is he can be handled and thus far Trump hasnt been able to be.
To me, that is a positive in Trumps column,
Really? Of course a "bad" person who can not be handled is a positive. What a world we live in.
at least Trumps dumb assery and motivation is on him, he doesnt seem to have some other country, or influencer dictating his direction.
Did you say Trump does not have an "infuencer" or country dictating his direction? OK I assume this is a bad attempt of a joke.
Biden will always make me wonder ( at least until he is replaced by his VP in 6 months) who he is actually working for although I am quite certain it wont be for the American voters that put him there.
Are you hinting at something here because everyone (with an iota of a conscience) has been asking who Trump is working for.
At some point one starts wondering if some of these posts are an attempt to get ahead of Trumps blunders. It is just mind boggling how somehow all the "fears" you listed above are being tagged on Biden when all have been asking the EXACT same things about Trump.
exactly my point, we have had 3+ years of the dems crying about Trump this and Trump that and who do they send to the plate when they get their next chance.... a slighlty more polished but mentally dinged version of Trump... how does this even happen? I am convinced Trump doesnt want to get re-elected since he seems to be going out of his way to be unsupportable, but for shits sake, the dems had 3 years to get it right, Trump put it on a platter and thanks to Covid erasing Trumps biggest talking point (the economy) it should have been a walk off home run, but we get to choose between Biden and Trump?
Who do you think runs Trump? maybe Israel would be the one he's been most friendly with, he's pissed off about every other country in the world including Hillary and Obamas old friend Putin, depsite the dems trying to link him to russia.
hinting at something? I am not hinting, I am saying that they powers that control the democratic party top dogs will have biden step aside and the VP will become their tool, of course they dont need biden to step aside to do this, but its pretty widely thought that biden doesnt serve a full term before he has to resign for mental health issues.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ mblack said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
Joe pigeon-holed himself a long time ago by saying he'd go woman V.P. Not saying that isn't the right choice, what I'm saying is if you're picking the best from a subpar group, its not optimal. The Right is going to crucify any of these top women contenders and rightly so, they've got skeletons....the whole 'Sleepy Joe is near death, do you want Kamala Harris's finger on the button??' angle is going to scare more votes Trump's way.
luckily team blue has a secret weapon...
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
lol, these debates are going to be a must watch shit show of surreality.
i cant do it. for the same reason I dont follow Trump on twitter, and am nauseated by the bias of the evening news.... its so fricking sad that our countries highest position comes down to these 2 people.
I know some think there is nothing wrong with Biden, but I ( and many many others) dont buy the bull shit.
he is as bad of a person as Trump is,
Here goes the comparison. But we were OK with Trump for three plus years.
the only difference is he can be handled and thus far Trump hasnt been able to be.
To me, that is a positive in Trumps column,
Really? Of course a "bad" person who can not be handled is a positive. What a world we live in.
at least Trumps dumb assery and motivation is on him, he doesnt seem to have some other country, or influencer dictating his direction.
Did you say Trump does not have an "infuencer" or country dictating his direction? OK I assume this is a bad attempt of a joke.
Biden will always make me wonder ( at least until he is replaced by his VP in 6 months) who he is actually working for although I am quite certain it wont be for the American voters that put him there.
Are you hinting at something here because everyone (with an iota of a conscience) has been asking who Trump is working for.
At some point one starts wondering if some of these posts are an attempt to get ahead of Trumps blunders. It is just mind boggling how somehow all the "fears" you listed above are being tagged on Biden when all have been asking the EXACT same things about Trump.
exactly my point, we have had 3+ years of the dems crying about Trump this and Trump that and who do they send to the plate when they get their next chance.... a slighlty more polished but mentally dinged version of Trump... how does this even happen? I am convinced Trump doesnt want to get re-elected since he seems to be going out of his way to be unsupportable, but for shits sake, the dems had 3 years to get it right, Trump put it on a platter and thanks to Covid erasing Trumps biggest talking point (the economy) it should have been a walk off home run, but we get to choose between Biden and Trump?
Who do you think runs Trump? maybe Israel would be the one he's been most friendly with, he's pissed off about every other country in the world including Hillary and Obamas old friend Putin, depsite the dems trying to link him to russia.
hinting at something? I am not hinting, I am saying that they powers that control the democratic party top dogs will have biden step aside and the VP will become their tool, of course they dont need biden to step aside to do this, but its pretty widely thought that biden doesnt serve a full term before he has to resign for mental health issues.
No its not your point. Using your analogy...
You said... the Dems send a "a slighlty more polished but mentally dinged" (slightly conveniently defined by you) more polished version of Trump but you still think Trump has the advantage and is better. There is no place where you can compare Trump Vs Biden except in the head space of someone who is not living in reality. The whataboutism the Trump supporters resort to knows no boundary.
You asked who I think runs Trump? I am sure you know or chose to ignore or fear the obvious.
In the same 3+ years the dems were "crying" you were saying there was nothing to see here. Now you suddenly see how "bad" Trump is but he is still better than Biden even though in your words Biden is a slightly more polished than Trump.
If Biden is mentally dinged then Trump has no brain. But of course your prefer Trump with no brain because he cant think.
The flip flop here is damn tiring.
Quote: @mblack said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ mblack said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
Joe pigeon-holed himself a long time ago by saying he'd go woman V.P. Not saying that isn't the right choice, what I'm saying is if you're picking the best from a subpar group, its not optimal. The Right is going to crucify any of these top women contenders and rightly so, they've got skeletons....the whole 'Sleepy Joe is near death, do you want Kamala Harris's finger on the button??' angle is going to scare more votes Trump's way.
luckily team blue has a secret weapon...
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
lol, these debates are going to be a must watch shit show of surreality.
i cant do it. for the same reason I dont follow Trump on twitter, and am nauseated by the bias of the evening news.... its so fricking sad that our countries highest position comes down to these 2 people.
I know some think there is nothing wrong with Biden, but I ( and many many others) dont buy the bull shit.
he is as bad of a person as Trump is,
Here goes the comparison. But we were OK with Trump for three plus years.
the only difference is he can be handled and thus far Trump hasnt been able to be.
To me, that is a positive in Trumps column,
Really? Of course a "bad" person who can not be handled is a positive. What a world we live in.
at least Trumps dumb assery and motivation is on him, he doesnt seem to have some other country, or influencer dictating his direction.
Did you say Trump does not have an "infuencer" or country dictating his direction? OK I assume this is a bad attempt of a joke.
Biden will always make me wonder ( at least until he is replaced by his VP in 6 months) who he is actually working for although I am quite certain it wont be for the American voters that put him there.
Are you hinting at something here because everyone (with an iota of a conscience) has been asking who Trump is working for.
At some point one starts wondering if some of these posts are an attempt to get ahead of Trumps blunders. It is just mind boggling how somehow all the "fears" you listed above are being tagged on Biden when all have been asking the EXACT same things about Trump.
exactly my point, we have had 3+ years of the dems crying about Trump this and Trump that and who do they send to the plate when they get their next chance.... a slighlty more polished but mentally dinged version of Trump... how does this even happen? I am convinced Trump doesnt want to get re-elected since he seems to be going out of his way to be unsupportable, but for shits sake, the dems had 3 years to get it right, Trump put it on a platter and thanks to Covid erasing Trumps biggest talking point (the economy) it should have been a walk off home run, but we get to choose between Biden and Trump?
Who do you think runs Trump? maybe Israel would be the one he's been most friendly with, he's pissed off about every other country in the world including Hillary and Obamas old friend Putin, depsite the dems trying to link him to russia.
hinting at something? I am not hinting, I am saying that they powers that control the democratic party top dogs will have biden step aside and the VP will become their tool, of course they dont need biden to step aside to do this, but its pretty widely thought that biden doesnt serve a full term before he has to resign for mental health issues.
No its not your point. Using your analogy...
You said... the Dems send a "a slighlty more polished but mentally dinged" (slightly conveniently defined by you) more polished version of Trump but you still think Trump has the advantage and is better. There is no place where you can compare Trump Vs Biden except in the head space of someone who is not living in reality. The whataboutism the Trump supporters resort to knows no boundary.
You asked who I think runs Trump? I am sure you know or chose to ignore or fear the obvious.
In the same 3+ years the dems were "crying" you were saying there was nothing to see here. Now you suddenly see how "bad" Trump is but he is still better than Biden even though in your words Biden is a slightly more polished than Trump.
If Biden is mentally dinged then Trump has no brain. But of course your prefer Trump with no brain because he cant think.
The flip flop here is damn tiring. slightly more polished, he isnt as brash as Trump and that makes him less of a target from the angry people.
holy shit you are a funny dude. if you got something to say just say it. I dont ignore anything except the unsubstantiated bull shit the MSM has been peddling since before trump was inaugurated, if they got something then they need to make it stick otherwise its just the same old shit that isnt worth rehashing.
I prefer the known over the unknown. you can call trump what ever you want, it really doesnt hurt my feelings, but Biden is a career turd with a track record of shit as bad as most of what the bad man orange crowd cries about all the time.
go back and find me saying nothing to see here... you are one of those angry people I referred to above. I havent been on here or anywhere saying nothing to see here, i point out hypocrisy in how trump has been treated vs other turds before him, but I rarely defend the character attacks on him. as far as his dealings with other nations behind closed doors, bring the proof to A1 or somebody else that wants to wade through that shit, they are all fucking crooked.
Last time I said I picked the lesser of 2 evils, I will do the same this time and it wont necessarily be Trump depending on Bidens running mate, but he wont get my vote with a new green, socialist leaning, blind robin hood democrat, he will need to show that he recognizes a middle ground in the country and pull from the more fiscally conservative part of the blue party if there are any left. this country cant afford to keep spending wildly and kicking the can down the road, especially if they go back to economic trade policies that were in effect prior to Trump.
Hell if the Dems wanted a win, they should have found a candidate that would say Trump did a good job on jobs creations and a few other high points, give him his wins, but then show a better way to use to gains than what Trump was proposing. instead of more tax cuts, pay down the deficit (or fuck how about just balancing a budget at least?) instead of giving away shit to keep people out of the jobs market, use the countries new prosperity to better prepare more people to enter the jobs market through forgivable school loans to those that show they are there to learn a needed trade or skill? Lots of people like me are looking for a reason not to vote Trump, it was the dems job to give us one, so far that effort appears to be a failure.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
slightly more polished, he isnt as brash as Trump and that makes him less of a target from the angry people.
holy shit you are a funny dude. if you got something to say just say it. I dont ignore anything except the unsubstantiated bull shit the MSM has been peddling since before trump was inaugurated, if they got something then they need to make it stick otherwise its just the same old shit that isnt worth rehashing.
I prefer the known over the unknown. you can call trump what ever you want, it really doesnt hurt my feelings, but Biden is a career turd with a track record of shit as bad as most of what the bad man orange crowd cries about all the time.
go back and find me saying nothing to see here... you are one of those angry people I referred to above. I havent been on here or anywhere saying nothing to see here, i point out hypocrisy in how trump has been treated vs other turds before him, but I rarely defend the character attacks on him. as far as his dealings with other nations behind closed doors, bring the proof to A1 or somebody else that wants to wade through that shit, they are all fucking crooked.
Last time I said I picked the lesser of 2 evils, I will do the same this time and it wont necessarily be Trump depending on Bidens running mate, but he wont get my vote with a new green, socialist leaning, blind robin hood democrat, he will need to show that he recognizes a middle ground in the country and pull from the more fiscally conservative part of the blue party if there are any left. this country cant afford to keep spending wildly and kicking the can down the road, especially if they go back to economic trade policies that were in effect prior to Trump.
Hell if the Dems wanted a win, they should have found a candidate that would say Trump did a good job on jobs creations and a few other high points, give him his wins, but then show a better way to use to gains than what Trump was proposing. instead of more tax cuts, pay down the deficit (or fuck how about just balancing a budget at least?) instead of giving away shit to keep people out of the jobs market, use the countries new prosperity to better prepare more people to enter the jobs market through forgivable school loans to those that show they are there to learn a needed trade or skill? Lots of people like me are looking for a reason not to vote Trump, it was the dems job to give us one, so far that effort appears to be a failure.
You are trying too hard. Your posts on here are more often than not littered with excuses for Trump and asking for "more info" but you have already drawn conclusions about Biden. You are confident Trump is the lesser of two evils. Can you tell us what factors you looked into before concluding Trump was a lesser evil.
The last time you picked the lesser of two evils meaning Trump was better than Clinton? With the way the past 3 plus years have unfolded forgive us for not calling on you when an unbiased political judgement is needed. You can say you use the facts and logic but that does not mean you actually do. Like I said, watch what they do not what they say.
Your earlier posts already tells us where your "allegiance" is. Now you you say you will "decide" depending on who Biden's running mate is? Who are you trying to fool?
Example...
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
Damn near everything that the left holds over trump has been matched by biden in terms of character issues. Trump is a bully, Biden is a fool. Neither would even be worth mentioning except that they are our choices and they both stink, but I will take the one that will put Americas prosperity first and has proven such the last 4 years....
- At the italic: No one in their right mind would say Trump has a better character than Biden unless you are a closet Trump supporter.
- At the red: You already told us what you will do so please don't pretend you are waiting to make a decision based on Biden's running mate. That is a LIE
- At the bold: Using a proven false premise hence why your judgement is very questionable
I didn't even do an extensive search. I just clicked on a random thread.
In conclusion, please stop flip flopping. People that pay attention know where you stand.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
California for starters, yup I really mean that.
There is some baggage with Kamala and her prosecutor days. She performed poorly this past fall having to walk-back on issues etc.
Biden polls well with the people of color on his own, he doesn't need her for that. A stronger tix imo is Warren with Biden.
Should we eat Pence for lunch in a debate too.
Yes, she would, but so would Harris. Plus, I think after 4 years with a white supremacist in the White House, an all white ticket in 2020 would be a mistake.
And Warren has far more to attack from the right. That's the vulnerability here: right wing talking points on Facebook have proven effective at peeling some indies away from the Dems. Whereas, Harris' vulnerability comes from the left, and whatever baggage she might have with progressives, they are FAR more focused on removing Trump than whatever handful of issues they might have with Harris.
Here's a pretty good article that argues that Harris critics are ignoring how politics actually works.
It makes me laugh that people can actually think that pairing anyone with Creepy Joe will help his cause. Creepy racist, race baiting, child fondler needs to just stay in his basement.
Quote: @greediron said:
It makes me laugh that people can actually think that pairing anyone with Creepy Joe will help his cause. Creepy racist, race baiting, child fondler needs to just stay in his basement.
a decent candidate that doesnt have a political closet full of skeletons would certainly help him since its very unlikely that he will make it very long and the VP will be running things at that point. they need to hang a political porkchop around his neck to pull the middle ground voters, or by himself it will be to risky unless trump really shits the bed in the meantime.
Biden is 77 and Trump is 74, I mean lol.....why wouldn't Biden 'make it' thru his whole Presidency? Who looks in better physical shape to you? Who's eating McDonald's?
C'mon now. Plus, Biden's pedo tendencies keep him young. (j/k lol I couldn't resist).
Quote: @StickyBun said:
Biden is 77 and Trump is 74, I mean lol.....why wouldn't Biden 'make it' thru his whole Presidency? Who looks in better physical shape to you? Who's eating McDonald's?
C'mon now. Plus, Biden's pedo tendencies keep him young. (j/k lol I couldn't resist).
i think Bidens mental slips are going to have him removed, just a feeling I have had since they have been hiding him for the last few months. in the heat of the weirdest campaigns ever, the leading candidate is about as unseen as one can imagine and when he does surface its 2 days of damage control followed up by a couple weeks of nothing from him. as often as trump serves up center cut hanging curveballs you would think a healthy person would be knocking them out in front of every camera or microphone he can.
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