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RUMOR: Harris to be traded for offensive lineman?
#11
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@MarkSP18 said:

Maybe they will stupidly give Cook a massive extension with that money?
You should probably just get used to it. Cook is a part of this. 
I never post what I think they will do.  I usually post what I would do.  Paying Cook big bucks does not seem like a good idea.

What would you offer him if you were GM and what are the chances you think he would accept your offer?
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#12
Quote: @MarkSP18 said:
It is interesting that the Vikings restructured Hunter's deal.  You would think there is a corresponding move. 

Maybe they will stupidly give Cook a massive extension with that money?

Maybe they will go after Clowney?  That would make the most sense to me but paying him more than Hunter wont sit well past this season.  I doubt they do this though.

So who?

If they get Williams from the Skins then they need to release Reiff.  Moving him to guard is one of the dumbest ideas that keeps getting repeated all over the place with no basis in fact.  When was the last time Reiff played guard?  2009.  Why pay him his salary to SEE if he could play guard?  Why not get someone who has played guard recently?

Harris and Reiff for Williams and Dunbar.
Interesting trade idea.   I was also thinking of Harris and Reiff for Williams and Mclaurin, tho not sure about salaries and if the Skins would let Mclaurin go.
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#13
Quote: @MarkSP18 said:
@MaroonBells said:
@MarkSP18 said:

Maybe they will stupidly give Cook a massive extension with that money?
You should probably just get used to it. Cook is a part of this. 
I never post what I think they will do.  I usually post what I would do.  Paying Cook big bucks does not seem like a good idea.

What would you offer him if you were GM and what are the chances you think he would accept your offer?
I would extend him. Probably 4 year deal. The amount is meaningless, but when it happens, he will likely be the highest paid back in the NFL, or very close to it. Not because he's the best back in the NFL (he may; he may not be), but because of the timing. By the end of the contract, he will not be anywhere close to the highest paid back... 

...lather, rinse, repeat....
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#14
Quote: @MarkSP18 said:
@MaroonBells said:
@MarkSP18 said:

Maybe they will stupidly give Cook a massive extension with that money?
You should probably just get used to it. Cook is a part of this. 
I never post what I think they will do.  I usually post what I would do.  Paying Cook big bucks does not seem like a good idea.

What would you offer him if you were GM and what are the chances you think he would accept your offer?

I like that you specify whether you're predicting the Vikings' actual actions or what you would recommend- too often we don't distinguish the two.
If it were me, I would ask him to play in 2020 on the contract he signed, and show us a full season of health and productivity. There are too many examples of teams losing piles of money by overpaying RBs (Todd Gurley, David Johnson, Jerrick McKinnon), NFL teams are not fighting to sign RBs, and a hallmark of the Gary Kubiak offense is running success without a premier RB. Cook wouldn't like that, but what are his options? Holding out and demanding a trade achieved nothing for Melvin Gordon last year. Besides, holding out is a weakened threat if the NFL season might be delayed or even canceled.

Whether or not they extend Cook, Vikings should pick another RB in the draft - maybe Darrynton Evans in the 3rd.
But I think the Vikings will give Cook a large extension soon.
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#15
Quote: @Jor-El said:
@MarkSP18 said:
@MaroonBells said:
@MarkSP18 said:

Maybe they will stupidly give Cook a massive extension with that money?
You should probably just get used to it. Cook is a part of this. 
I never post what I think they will do.  I usually post what I would do.  Paying Cook big bucks does not seem like a good idea.

What would you offer him if you were GM and what are the chances you think he would accept your offer?

I like that you specify whether you're predicting the Vikings' actual actions or what you would recommend- too often we don't distinguish the two.
If it were me, I would ask him to play in 2020 on the contract he signed, and show us a full season of health and productivity. There are too many examples of teams losing piles of money by overpaying RBs (Todd Gurley, David Johnson, Jerrick McKinnon), NFL teams are not fighting to sign RBs, and a hallmark of the Gary Kubiak offense is running success without a premier RB. Cook wouldn't like that, but what are his options? Holding out and demanding a trade achieved nothing for Melvin Gordon last year. Besides, holding out is a weakened threat if the NFL season might be delayed or even canceled.

Whether or not they extend Cook, Vikings should pick another RB in the draft - maybe Darrynton Evans in the 3rd.
But I think the Vikings will give Cook a large extension soon.
I agree with you. The only thing I would say is that the market already knows about the "RB problem." You can argue about overpaying Gurley, McKinnon, etc., But the "problem" is already baked into their contracts. Last time I checked, among the top 50 highest paid players in the NFL, only 1 was a running back. 
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#16
Quote: @Jor-El said:
@MarkSP18 said:
@MaroonBells said:
@MarkSP18 said:

Maybe they will stupidly give Cook a massive extension with that money?
You should probably just get used to it. Cook is a part of this. 
I never post what I think they will do.  I usually post what I would do.  Paying Cook big bucks does not seem like a good idea.

What would you offer him if you were GM and what are the chances you think he would accept your offer?

I like that you specify whether you're predicting the Vikings' actual actions or what you would recommend- too often we don't distinguish the two.
If it were me, I would ask him to play in 2020 on the contract he signed, and show us a full season of health and productivity. There are too many examples of teams losing piles of money by overpaying RBs (Todd Gurley, David Johnson, Jerrick McKinnon), NFL teams are not fighting to sign RBs, and a hallmark of the Gary Kubiak offense is running success without a premier RB. Cook wouldn't like that, but what are his options? Holding out and demanding a trade achieved nothing for Melvin Gordon last year. Besides, holding out is a weakened threat if the NFL season might be delayed or even canceled.

Whether or not they extend Cook, Vikings should pick another RB in the draft - maybe Darrynton Evans in the 3rd.
But I think the Vikings will give Cook a large extension soon.
If he shows a full season of health and productivity then we are bidding against other teams for him.   Letting him play out the contract is really just a different way of saying we will be parting ways at some point.   

Personally I would offer an extension with health incentives.   The more he's on the field the more he makes.   
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#17
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@Jor-El said:
@MarkSP18 said:
@MaroonBells said:
@MarkSP18 said:

Maybe they will stupidly give Cook a massive extension with that money?
You should probably just get used to it. Cook is a part of this. 
I never post what I think they will do.  I usually post what I would do.  Paying Cook big bucks does not seem like a good idea.

What would you offer him if you were GM and what are the chances you think he would accept your offer?

I like that you specify whether you're predicting the Vikings' actual actions or what you would recommend- too often we don't distinguish the two.
If it were me, I would ask him to play in 2020 on the contract he signed, and show us a full season of health and productivity. There are too many examples of teams losing piles of money by overpaying RBs (Todd Gurley, David Johnson, Jerrick McKinnon), NFL teams are not fighting to sign RBs, and a hallmark of the Gary Kubiak offense is running success without a premier RB. Cook wouldn't like that, but what are his options? Holding out and demanding a trade achieved nothing for Melvin Gordon last year. Besides, holding out is a weakened threat if the NFL season might be delayed or even canceled.

Whether or not they extend Cook, Vikings should pick another RB in the draft - maybe Darrynton Evans in the 3rd.
But I think the Vikings will give Cook a large extension soon.
I agree with you. The only thing I would say is that the market already knows about the "RB problem." You can argue about overpaying Gurley, McKinnon, etc., But the "problem" is already baked into their contracts. Last time I checked, among the top 50 highest paid players in the NFL, only 1 was a running back. 
This also spells out how RBs were the biggest losers with the new CBA. But analytics as a whole have really poked quite a few holes in the value of running backs, even those on rookie contracts. At the end of the day the value is in the O-line, and scheme. Regardless of how talented you are as a player what happens before you touch the ball has the most bearing on the outcome of the play. 
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#18
Cooks quickness is the difference. He is worth keeping.
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#19
Just read another unsubstantiated rumor that the Patriots are very interested in him. Could it be Harris for Thuney? Both are tag and trade candidates valued at around 3rd round value.
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#20
That would be some long vision if Mattison just steps in.
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