So no collusion.

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@suncoastvike said:
It is a valid point. It took Barr less then 48 hours to determine there's nothing in a document that will take him a month to scrubb clean before releasing. Yes lefties are such a suspicious lot. 

Wouldn't the more logical answer be that Barr has an entire team working on this?  It wasn't one dude in a smoke filled office over a long weekend. 

It sounds like there was an executive summary by Mueller.  I'd assume classified info was kept out of said summary.  I wish Barr would have released the summary in Muellers own words.  However, and a big however.  If Barr wanted CYA which I'm sure he did.  By writing his own summary based off the Mueller summary he can guarantee that he doesn't release sensitive (national security risk not damning Trump info) information before whomever has to clear all this does their job and thus passes on the liability to someone else. 

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@AGRforever said:

@KingBash said:
OH LOOK WHAT A SURPRISE I NEVER SAW THIS COMING:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/po...eport.html

You dont say?  The NY times is still pushing a narative just like NBC, MSNBC, CNN etc?  Could it be that some reporters have serious egg on tgeir face?  All they need is something...anything to hang their hat on and it gives them clearance to run tge story so all the lefties give them some clicks. 

Just go ahead and scream "fake news" because you don't like it... which is exactly what King Baby does.

... or maybe wait and see if there's something there.

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@suncoastvike said:
It is a valid point. It took Barr less then 48 hours to determine there's nothing in a document that will take him a month to scrubb clean before releasing. Yes lefties are such a suspicious lot. 

You do know that Mueller worked for Sessions & then AG Barr, right?
It is very likely (a virtual certainty) Barr & DAG Rosenstein  knew the vast majority/bulk of the Mueller report, before it was finally formally turned over to them.  

That Barr and Rosenstein were totally in the dark about the findings/progress of Mueller's report until the end is laughable.  

The "scrubb clean" is to protect (by redaction) innocent witnesses' LAWFULLY PROTECTED grand jury testimony.   Got a problem with that?  Change federal statutes governing gj testimony.  

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@KingBash said:

@greediron said:

nope, just calling out your bull.  read something other than MSNBC or CNN.  I am not excusing anything.  If you have trouble following along, I have called out Trump's behavior.  his tweets.  His lying. 

But I like some of the actions he has done. 

You're excusing literally 95% of his mental illness because you're an uninformed voter. That's what Fox News does to people. I RARELY have CNN on (or any TV show). I get my news from reputable journalists and political pundits on Twitter whom I trust. 

You can like some of the actions he's done. I can't possibly imagine what they'd be, but they pale in comparison to the tons of awful lies he's told to further his mental illness.

(Just now today: says he's still under audit so we can't see his taxes. That's not how it works, you orange embarrassment. You can show them at any time, you're just hiding your entire, shady lie of a life.)

Dude get a clue. I don't watch Fox News.  Your uniformed views just keep piling up.  And sorry, telling stupid lies on twitter is worse than actual actions?  Dookay! 

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@KingBash said:

@AGRforever said:

@KingBash said:
OH LOOK WHAT A SURPRISE I NEVER SAW THIS COMING:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/us/po...eport.html

You dont say?  The NY times is still pushing a narative just like NBC, MSNBC, CNN etc?  Could it be that some reporters have serious egg on tgeir face?  All they need is something...anything to hang their hat on and it gives them clearance to run tge story so all the lefties give them some clicks. 

Just go ahead and scream "fake news" because you don't like it... which is exactly what King Baby does.

... or maybe wait and see if there's something there.

Isn't that what you've been doing the ENTIRE TIME in this thread??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
The AG reports the preliminary findings and you freak the F*uck out??? 

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@savannahskol said:

@suncoastvike said:
It is a valid point. It took Barr less then 48 hours to determine there's nothing in a document that will take him a month to scrubb clean before releasing. Yes lefties are such a suspicious lot. 

You do know that Mueller worked for Sessions & then AG Barr, right?
It is very likely (a virtual certainty) Barr & DAG Rosenstein  knew the vast majority/bulk of the Mueller report, before it was finally formally turned over to them.  

That Barr and Rosenstein were totally in the dark about the findings/progress of Mueller's report until the end is laughable.  

The "scrubb clean" is to protect (by redaction) innocent witnesses' LAWFULLY PROTECTED grand jury testimony.   Got a problem with that?  Change federal statutes governing gj testimony.  

My mistake. Scrub...protect...lie...cheat. Lines get blurred. I only talk of perception. He (Barr) was perceived to be only to eager to make statements proving nothing. Now he needs time and a team to comb through it. Perception IS fact. I've waded through miles of right wing conspiracy shit and you know it. So why must cold hard facts only matter now. I choose to believe Barr is just the next enabler. Just like Nunes and all the rest who fought hard to keep everything behind velvet curtains. I really would just for once like to really know the facts or at least the suspicions that lead up to the fact. I feel I can make my own mind up. I'm just curious about another scandle I will never get an answer too. That's right it to dangerous.

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@AGRforever said:

@suncoastvike said:
It is a valid point. It took Barr less then 48 hours to determine there's nothing in a document that will take him a month to scrubb clean before releasing. Yes lefties are such a suspicious lot. 

Wouldn't the more logical answer be that Barr has an entire team working on this?  It wasn't one dude in a smoke filled office over a long weekend. 

It sounds like there was an executive summary by Mueller.  I'd assume classified info was kept out of said summary.  I wish Barr would have released the summary in Muellers own words.  However, and a big however.  If Barr wanted CYA which I'm sure he did.  By writing his own summary based off the Mueller summary he can guarantee that he doesn't release sensitive (national security risk not damning Trump info) information before whomever has to clear all this does their job and thus passes on the liability to someone else. 

Logic...lol. that's a good one. I make a simple tongue in cheek statement about how it looks. At least how I believe it looks and  people get all serious on me.
Why is it you think we like conspiracy theories so much? Because it's the only time we get to control the outcome. The only time we get to narrate instead of being told this is how it is trust me.  

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@suncoastvike said:
It is a valid point. It took Barr less then 48 hours to determine there's nothing in a document that will take him a month to scrubb clean before releasing. Yes lefties are such a suspicious lot. 

Less than that.  Barr had already written about Trump not being able to be charged with obstruction as a sitting President over a year ago.  Why do you think Trump fired his own pick Sessions and rushed Barr into replace him?  Trump already knew where Barr stood before hiring him.  

Barr had made up his mind before Mueller report was ever released. 

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I think a lot of the left is firmly in
conspiracy theory realm right now, where they aren’t accepting the narrative as
it is presented, and filling in the gaps with things that make sense to them,
but are unverified.  I’m cool with that,
as I live there a lot, but it should be acknowledged that’s what’s
happening. 


I think it’s perfectly fine to think that Barr and Mueller
would be sweeping corruption under the rug. 
There’s been much more of that happening than actually corrupt people
being brought to justice going back through many presidencies.  I am just not convinced that there’s much
value in having secretive investigations where all the evidence, or some key
evidence is hidden.  I think if we’re
going to ever eliminate corruption, we’re going to need to be comfortable with
making the process as transparent as possible, maybe not during the
investigation, but at least after all the evidence has been collected. 

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@medaille said:
I think a lot of the left is firmly in
conspiracy theory realm right now, where they aren’t accepting the narrative as
it is presented, and filling in the gaps with things that make sense to them,
but are unverified.  I’m cool with that,
as I live there a lot, but it should be acknowledged that’s what’s
happening. 


I think it’s perfectly fine to think that Barr and Mueller
would be sweeping corruption under the rug. 
There’s been much more of that happening than actually corrupt people
being brought to justice going back through many presidencies.  I am just not convinced that there’s much
value in having secretive investigations where all the evidence, or some key
evidence is hidden.  I think if we’re
going to ever eliminate corruption, we’re going to need to be comfortable with
making the process as transparent as possible, maybe not during the
investigation, but at least after all the evidence has been collected. 

I pretty much assume that politicians are corrupt... and that they cover for each other.  That's why- despite all of Trumps foibles- I can't get too worked up about them.  It's not that they don't matter... it's that everyone (mostly) does it.  At least I'm not going to be hypocritical about it and act like "my" side is innocent... while the other side is totally corrupt.  That seems to be the gist of this thread though.  IF corruption, lies, etc... are BAD: then they should be bad no matter who does them.  But that's been shown to clearly not be the case (both in this thread and nationally).  So I just accept corruption as part of life now.  Sad... but that's where we are.  

If Americans really wanted honest politicians, they would not have given us the 2 options that we had last (presidential) election.