OT: Coronavirus

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Over 2 millions tests have been done according to the press conference.  That is why they are adjusting the models way down. They are improving the denominator. 

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Fewer deaths are win/win/win for us all, regardless of politics. 

It would have been an even shittier shit/show if we didnt social distance. The economic damage is catastrophic unfortunately.

When we re-open, we have to be very smart about it. Make sure there is more testing capability than to-date. 

I have to verify this as real or not, but I heard about .8% of the us population has actually been tested to-date. 

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@purplefaithful said:
Fewer deaths are win/win/win for us all, regardless of politics. 

It would have been an even shittier shit/show if we didnt social distance. The economic damage is catastrophic unfortunately.

When we re-open, we have to be very smart about it. Make sure there is more testing capability than to-date. 

I have to verify this as real or not, but I heard about .8% of the us population has actually been tested to-date. 

Lines up with the over 2 million tests per the conference tonight based on total population.  

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Comparing US and Germany: 
GermanyPopulation: 83.02 millionFirst case: January 27Cases: 118,235Recovered: 52,407Tests: 1,317,887Tests/Million: 15,730
USAPopulation: 327.2 millionFirst case: January 20Cases: 468,566Recovered: 25,316Tests: 2,353,096Tests/Million: 7,109

Germany, a country with 1/4 the population of US sandwiched with countries all around is able to test half the people the US has done yet some think we should be proud with 2 million tests till date. Look at the tests per million people Isn't that just pathetic?

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@mblack said:
Comparing US and Germany: 

GermanyPopulation: 83.02 millionFirst case: January 27Cases: 118,235Recovered: 52,407Tests: 1,317,887Tests / Million: 15,730
USAPopulation: 327.2 millionFirst case: January 20Cases: 468,566Recovered: 25,316Tests: 2,353,096Tests/Million: 7,109

Germany, a country with 1/4 the population of US sandwiched with countries all around is able to test double the people than US yet some think we should be proud about 2 million tests till date. Isn't that just pathetic?

I dont think anyone is proud of it...Well, maybe Pence is. 

Its poor as an absolute % and poor when looked at in tests/million pop too. 

Germany got ahead of it big time with testing and its paying off. I believe they were some of the best in Europe and not far behind SK, Singapore and a few others. 

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@purplefaithful said:

@mblack said:
Comparing US and Germany: 

GermanyPopulation: 83.02 millionFirst case: January 27Cases: 118,235Recovered: 52,407Tests: 1,317,887Tests / Million: 15,730
USAPopulation: 327.2 millionFirst case: January 20Cases: 468,566Recovered: 25,316Tests: 2,353,096Tests/Million: 7,109

Germany, a country with 1/4 the population of US sandwiched with countries all around is able to test double the people than US yet some think we should be proud about 2 million tests till date. Isn't that just pathetic?

I dont think anyone is proud of it...Well, maybe Pence is. 

Its poor as an absolute % and poor when looked at in tests/million pop too. 

Germany got ahead of it big time with testing and its paying off. I believe they were some of the best in Europe and not far behind SK, Singapore and a few others. 

Not just Pence.
At the bold.. but you will never hear that listening to our officials. We chose to blame everyone else. Also, their recovery rate is double what ours is. Rational people would know, that is a direct correlation with testing. Early detection would lead to early treatment (assuming we have that available - which is a different matter altogether)

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I guess it only politics if it is pro Trump.

• Claim: Germany is testing at one of the highest per capita rates in the world, and is also testing individuals with light or no symptoms

Reality: The German Health Ministry has said that it is testing 300,000 people per week in a country of 82 million people; it has already carried out far more tests than Italy, the European epicenter of the pandemic. While that is a massive effort, assuming that each German resident would be tested once, it would take 3 years to test the entire population.
Comparing test rates per capita around the world is extremely difficult, as some countries, like the US, do not have a central registrar recording all the tests across the nation. Further complicating the matter are the conflicting numbers even within each country; the usage of different time measurements; and delays in reporting. These factors make it even harder to keep track and say with certainty which nation has the highest number of tests per capita.
Moreover, Germany's center for disease control, the Robert Koch Institute, has criticized Germany's methods of testing, complaining for example that too many asymptomatic individuals were being tested. The RKI called for an end to this practice on the grounds that Germany could risk running out of tests. Therefore, asymptomatic people are currently not being recommended for testing.

• Claim: Germany's death rate is so low due to advanced planning and an excellent healthcare system

Reality: Germany does have a robust public healthcare system that for now appears to be weathering the storm. As in many countries, however, medical professionals in respiratory and intensive care report being massively overworked, and there is a risk of running out of protective equipment. While Germany has enough hospitals, they are chronically understaffed, and medical students are now helping out in the most overwhelmed units.
Statistics about the number of intensive care beds in the country are often cited as proof of Germany's superior preparedness to handle this crisis. However, German officials report disparate figures. The German Association of Hospitals says there are 40,000 beds, which is about 49 for every 100,000 of Germany's 82 million inhabitants. The Registrar for Intensive Care Beds says there are 24,000, which is only about 29 for every 100,000 people.
As for advanced planning, Germany's lockdown and social distancing regulations were put in place more than a week after fellow EU members France, Austria, and Spain had imposed similar policies. Despite what was happening in Italy in early March, Germany was actually much slower to react than its neighbors.
However, behind Germany's as-yet low mortality rate is a confluence of many other factors. These include the country's federal system of government, which means there are hundreds of health officials overseeing the pandemic response across the 16 states, rather than one centralized response from the country's national Health Ministry.
(HAHA - so the STATES should be doing their jobs, not the federal government!)

• Claim: One reason Germany's mortality rate is low is because Germans immediately stuck to the rules about social distancing

Reality: This is a misplaced belief circulated on social media, likely based on old stereotypes of the German national character rather than actual evidence. There are no hard statistics, but widespread anecdotal evidence would suggest otherwise.
When German Chancellor Angela Merkel first suggested on March 18 that Germans stay at home as much as possible and refrain from meeting in groups, thousands of social media users complained that as it was beautiful weather, and the local ice cream dealers and cafes remained open. Nothing appeared to have changed about public life other than a lack of toilet paper.
Oh and BTW - Germany is using malaria and arthritis drugs. And they don’t have a political machine with fake news attacking like we do!

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Every single freaking politician, both state and federal, both democratic and republican are more interested in persuading people to distrust the other party than they are in serving the best interests of the American people. EVERY SINGLE FREAKING ONE!
THAT is why this country is lagging behind other countries in this battle.

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@"BarrNone55" said:
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House 3 looked pretty cool until I saw Dick Vitale.  Just. No. Way. In. Hell.  House 6 it is B)