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@ A1Janitor said:
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https://www.politico.com/states/new-york...ts-1273409
Javits Center and USNS Comfort have a combined 110 patients NEW YORK — The military-run hospitals at the Javits Center and onboard the USNS Comfort remain mostly empty — so far treating only 110 patients between them, Pentagon officials said Tuesday.
Both facilities were established in New York after Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio begged for federal support last month to manage the spiraling outbreak of the coronavirus, but they have been hampered by logistical and communication constraints, officials said. Javits, the sprawling convention center on the West Side of Manhattan, has a capacity for 2,500 people but so far has 66 patients. The Comfort, the Navy hospital ship docked in the Hudson River, has 44 patients out of a capacity for 500.
So the Stay at home orders have really made an impact in curbing the virus. I would prefer my governor over prepare and then not need the resources. I am sure if the virus hits another State hard then NY will be sending their resources. States like Washington, Oregon sent some extra supplies/vents to NY in a show of unity and now those resources can be sourced where needed most. It is wonderful to see the "United States" of American work together as one.
I heard today that many NYC deaths could have been avoided if the mayor and governor acted sooner.
Is that a revelation? I mean, isn't it obvious that deaths could have been avoided if every mayor in every city and every governor in every state acted sooner?
The difference is they knew better. In NYC - the mayor came out in March and encouraged people to go about their lives - said the isolation and travel bans weren’t necessary. So NY followed the lead of our Federal government Until March 22nd stay at home order from Governor Coumo. NY was one of the first States to do so after California, Illinois and New Jersey. I think there are still 9 States that have not done stay at home yet. I also heard that if the Federal Government issued Stay-at-home orders in February/early March many US citizens lives would have been saved.
Here are some of the first States to implement stay at home orders:
California
After declaring a state of emergency, California became the first state to issue beginning March 19.
Illinois
After declaring a state of emergency, Illinois issued a stay-at-home order beginning 5 p.m. on March 21.
Louisiana
After declaring a public health emergency, Louisiana issued beginning 5 p.m. March 23 until April 13.
Massachusetts
After declaring a state of emergency, Massachusetts issued a stay-at-home advisory from March 24 until April 7.
Michigan
After declaring a state of emergency, Michigan issued a suspension of nonessential activities starting 12:01 a.m. on March 24 until 11:59 p.m. on April 13.
New Jersey
After declaring , New Jersey issued starting 9 p.m. March 21.
New Mexico
After declaring a state of emergency on March 19, New Mexico issued a stay-at-home order as an amendment.
New York
After declaring a state of emergency, New York issued a stay-at-home order starting 8 p.m. on March 22.
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@ JimmyinSD said:
@ A1Janitor said:
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@ A1Janitor said:
https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2020/04/07/javits-center-and-usns-comfort-have-a-combined-110-patients-1273409
Javits Center and USNS Comfort have a combined 110 patientsBy ERIN DURKIN
04/07/2020 04:46 PM EDT
NEW YORK — The military-run hospitals at the Javits Center and onboard the USNS Comfort remain mostly empty — so far treating only 110 patients between them, Pentagon officials said Tuesday.
Both facilities were established in New York after Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio begged for federal support last month to manage the spiraling outbreak of the coronavirus, but they have been hampered by logistical and communication constraints, officials said. Javits, the sprawling convention center on the West Side of Manhattan, has a capacity for 2,500 people but so far has 66 patients. The Comfort, the Navy hospital ship docked in the Hudson River, has 44 patients out of a capacity for 500.
So the Stay at home orders have really made an impact in curbing the virus. I would prefer my governor over prepare and then not need the resources. I am sure if the virus hits another State hard then NY will be sending their resources. States like Washington, Oregon sent some extra supplies/vents to NY in a show of unity and now those resources can be sourced where needed most. It is wonderful to see the "United States" of American work together as one.
I heard today that many NYC deaths could have been avoided if the mayor and governor acted sooner.
Is that a revelation? I mean, isn't it obvious that deaths could have been avoided if every mayor in every city and every governor in every state acted sooner?
It's looking like CA and maybe Washington State are the best in class examples so far...I say that with trepidation with my kid in LA.
Yep, some did better than others. But there isn't a single leader in the country (or the world) that doesn't wish they had acted sooner. Whether they admit it or not is another story.
Yes, I agree with this.
I also think WHO and China hold blame for at a minimum not being honest earlier - sending mixed signals - which the federal, state, and local leaders relied on.
What we don’t need is the blame game, especially for political advantage.
All leaders should study the mistakes and safeguard us in the future.
The WHO is what pisses me off the most in this deal. they are supposed to be a non political entity that puts the health of all people ahead of everything else...politics be damned, consequences be damned, and for them to withhold the truth from the rest of the world... that is inexcusable IMO. I am all for killing their funding unless that organization can show some serious changes internally in both people and practice.
I never for a second thought that China should be trusted in their reportings... I mean hello, we grew up in the heart of the cold war and read all the bull shit that the communist party run news agencies spewed.
I thought that also, but as we step out of leadership roles the vacuum be will filled. The current WHO president, an elected official was not the candidate we supported, we supported a British candidate. It's not a nationalist organization.
I was not aware of this.... i cant tell you how many times I have read stuff on this virus and my resulting reaction is a heavy sigh and a head shake.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ A1Janitor said:
After @CBSNews was called out for airing footage of a hospital in Italy and saying it was New York, they apologized and said it was an error.
Less than a week later, they aired the same footage, this time when talking about Pennsylvania.
I work in media and this sort of thing happens all the time. Like every single day. 99.9% of the time no one notices or cares because they're not trying to force a political agenda onto everything they see.
It's truly disturbing that you actually believe this.
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@ BigAl99 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ A1Janitor said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ A1Janitor said:
@ minny65 said:
@ A1Janitor said:
https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2020/04/07/javits-center-and-usns-comfort-have-a-combined-110-patients-1273409
Javits Center and USNS Comfort have a combined 110 patientsBy ERIN DURKIN
04/07/2020 04:46 PM EDT
NEW YORK — The military-run hospitals at the Javits Center and onboard the USNS Comfort remain mostly empty — so far treating only 110 patients between them, Pentagon officials said Tuesday.
Both facilities were established in New York after Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio begged for federal support last month to manage the spiraling outbreak of the coronavirus, but they have been hampered by logistical and communication constraints, officials said. Javits, the sprawling convention center on the West Side of Manhattan, has a capacity for 2,500 people but so far has 66 patients. The Comfort, the Navy hospital ship docked in the Hudson River, has 44 patients out of a capacity for 500.
So the Stay at home orders have really made an impact in curbing the virus. I would prefer my governor over prepare and then not need the resources. I am sure if the virus hits another State hard then NY will be sending their resources. States like Washington, Oregon sent some extra supplies/vents to NY in a show of unity and now those resources can be sourced where needed most. It is wonderful to see the "United States" of American work together as one.
I heard today that many NYC deaths could have been avoided if the mayor and governor acted sooner.
Is that a revelation? I mean, isn't it obvious that deaths could have been avoided if every mayor in every city and every governor in every state acted sooner?
It's looking like CA and maybe Washington State are the best in class examples so far...I say that with trepidation with my kid in LA.
Yep, some did better than others. But there isn't a single leader in the country (or the world) that doesn't wish they had acted sooner. Whether they admit it or not is another story.
Yes, I agree with this.
I also think WHO and China hold blame for at a minimum not being honest earlier - sending mixed signals - which the federal, state, and local leaders relied on.
What we don’t need is the blame game, especially for political advantage.
All leaders should study the mistakes and safeguard us in the future.
The WHO is what pisses me off the most in this deal. they are supposed to be a non political entity that puts the health of all people ahead of everything else...politics be damned, consequences be damned, and for them to withhold the truth from the rest of the world... that is inexcusable IMO. I am all for killing their funding unless that organization can show some serious changes internally in both people and practice.
I never for a second thought that China should be trusted in their reportings... I mean hello, we grew up in the heart of the cold war and read all the bull shit that the communist party run news agencies spewed.
I thought that also, but as we step out of leadership roles the vacuum be will filled. The current WHO president, an elected official was not the candidate we supported, we supported a British candidate. It's not a nationalist organization.
I was not aware of this.... i cant tell you how many times I have read stuff on this virus and my resulting reaction is a heavy sigh and a head shake.
I just listened to an explanation of what went down with the WHO parroting the early Chinese position that it was not transmitted person to person in December. That was statement put out by the Leadership not vetted, more a statement that we are not gonna look into it till we are asked.
Something tells me when all of the true story comes out of China, we're going to be shaking our heads in amazement, despair, disbelief and anger.
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Something tells me when all of the true story comes out of China, we're going to be shaking our heads in amazement, despair, disbelief and anger.
And Trump holds them responsible for their actions, because he is a real president!! Wipes out our debt with them and goes down as the greatest president in American History and completely wiping out Obuma's legacy!!! I Love It !!!!
Quote: @Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ purplefaithful said:
Something tells me when all of the true story comes out of China, we're going to be shaking our heads in amazement, despair, disbelief and anger.
And Trump holds them responsible for their actions, because he is a real president!! Wipes out our debt with them and goes down as the greatest president in American History and completely wiping out Obuma's legacy!!! I Love It !!!!
JFC Bob...
Wish I could say I was surprised by that...Keep it at the Beer Hall Putsch Pub huh?
:/
Quote: @BigAl99 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ BigAl99 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ A1Janitor said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ A1Janitor said:
@ minny65 said:
@ A1Janitor said:
https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2020/04/07/javits-center-and-usns-comfort-have-a-combined-110-patients-1273409
Javits Center and USNS Comfort have a combined 110 patientsBy ERIN DURKIN
04/07/2020 04:46 PM EDT
NEW YORK — The military-run hospitals at the Javits Center and onboard the USNS Comfort remain mostly empty — so far treating only 110 patients between them, Pentagon officials said Tuesday.
Both facilities were established in New York after Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio begged for federal support last month to manage the spiraling outbreak of the coronavirus, but they have been hampered by logistical and communication constraints, officials said. Javits, the sprawling convention center on the West Side of Manhattan, has a capacity for 2,500 people but so far has 66 patients. The Comfort, the Navy hospital ship docked in the Hudson River, has 44 patients out of a capacity for 500.
So the Stay at home orders have really made an impact in curbing the virus. I would prefer my governor over prepare and then not need the resources. I am sure if the virus hits another State hard then NY will be sending their resources. States like Washington, Oregon sent some extra supplies/vents to NY in a show of unity and now those resources can be sourced where needed most. It is wonderful to see the "United States" of American work together as one.
I heard today that many NYC deaths could have been avoided if the mayor and governor acted sooner.
Is that a revelation? I mean, isn't it obvious that deaths could have been avoided if every mayor in every city and every governor in every state acted sooner?
It's looking like CA and maybe Washington State are the best in class examples so far...I say that with trepidation with my kid in LA.
Yep, some did better than others. But there isn't a single leader in the country (or the world) that doesn't wish they had acted sooner. Whether they admit it or not is another story.
Yes, I agree with this.
I also think WHO and China hold blame for at a minimum not being honest earlier - sending mixed signals - which the federal, state, and local leaders relied on.
What we don’t need is the blame game, especially for political advantage.
All leaders should study the mistakes and safeguard us in the future.
The WHO is what pisses me off the most in this deal. they are supposed to be a non political entity that puts the health of all people ahead of everything else...politics be damned, consequences be damned, and for them to withhold the truth from the rest of the world... that is inexcusable IMO. I am all for killing their funding unless that organization can show some serious changes internally in both people and practice.
I never for a second thought that China should be trusted in their reportings... I mean hello, we grew up in the heart of the cold war and read all the bull shit that the communist party run news agencies spewed.
I thought that also, but as we step out of leadership roles the vacuum be will filled. The current WHO president, an elected official was not the candidate we supported, we supported a British candidate. It's not a nationalist organization.
I was not aware of this.... i cant tell you how many times I have read stuff on this virus and my resulting reaction is a heavy sigh and a head shake.
I just listened to an explanation of what went down with the WHO parroting the early Chinese position that it was not transmitted person to person in December. That was statement put out by the Leadership not vetted, more a statement that we are not gonna look into it till we are asked.
This whole blame the Chinese or WHO is just passing the buck. Yes they lied or told half truths. How come other countries were able to adjust and react to it better than the US even though the US had a late start?
https://apple.news/AV5CXpL_BRfKbxxmvY_ek7w
German health expert claims drinking alcohol can protect against coronavirus
A top German virologist has claimed drinking whisky can protect against COVID-19 infection.
Quote: @mblack said:
@ BigAl99 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ BigAl99 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ A1Janitor said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ A1Janitor said:
@ minny65 said:
@ A1Janitor said:
https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2020/04/07/javits-center-and-usns-comfort-have-a-combined-110-patients-1273409
Javits Center and USNS Comfort have a combined 110 patientsBy ERIN DURKIN
04/07/2020 04:46 PM EDT
NEW YORK — The military-run hospitals at the Javits Center and onboard the USNS Comfort remain mostly empty — so far treating only 110 patients between them, Pentagon officials said Tuesday.
Both facilities were established in New York after Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio begged for federal support last month to manage the spiraling outbreak of the coronavirus, but they have been hampered by logistical and communication constraints, officials said. Javits, the sprawling convention center on the West Side of Manhattan, has a capacity for 2,500 people but so far has 66 patients. The Comfort, the Navy hospital ship docked in the Hudson River, has 44 patients out of a capacity for 500.
So the Stay at home orders have really made an impact in curbing the virus. I would prefer my governor over prepare and then not need the resources. I am sure if the virus hits another State hard then NY will be sending their resources. States like Washington, Oregon sent some extra supplies/vents to NY in a show of unity and now those resources can be sourced where needed most. It is wonderful to see the "United States" of American work together as one.
I heard today that many NYC deaths could have been avoided if the mayor and governor acted sooner.
Is that a revelation? I mean, isn't it obvious that deaths could have been avoided if every mayor in every city and every governor in every state acted sooner?
It's looking like CA and maybe Washington State are the best in class examples so far...I say that with trepidation with my kid in LA.
Yep, some did better than others. But there isn't a single leader in the country (or the world) that doesn't wish they had acted sooner. Whether they admit it or not is another story.
Yes, I agree with this.
I also think WHO and China hold blame for at a minimum not being honest earlier - sending mixed signals - which the federal, state, and local leaders relied on.
What we don’t need is the blame game, especially for political advantage.
All leaders should study the mistakes and safeguard us in the future.
The WHO is what pisses me off the most in this deal. they are supposed to be a non political entity that puts the health of all people ahead of everything else...politics be damned, consequences be damned, and for them to withhold the truth from the rest of the world... that is inexcusable IMO. I am all for killing their funding unless that organization can show some serious changes internally in both people and practice.
I never for a second thought that China should be trusted in their reportings... I mean hello, we grew up in the heart of the cold war and read all the bull shit that the communist party run news agencies spewed.
I thought that also, but as we step out of leadership roles the vacuum be will filled. The current WHO president, an elected official was not the candidate we supported, we supported a British candidate. It's not a nationalist organization.
I was not aware of this.... i cant tell you how many times I have read stuff on this virus and my resulting reaction is a heavy sigh and a head shake.
I just listened to an explanation of what went down with the WHO parroting the early Chinese position that it was not transmitted person to person in December. That was statement put out by the Leadership not vetted, more a statement that we are not gonna look into it till we are asked.
This whole blame the Chinese or WHO is just passing the buck. Yes they lied or told half truths. How come other countries were able to adjust and react to it better than the US even though the US had a late start?
Damage control, deflection game on by the Potus...
That said, the WHO and Chinese need to be investigated. There needs to be understanding of events similar to what we did after 911. Both of ourselves and external world partners too.
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