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Quote: @purplefaithful said:
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Yup. Saw this a few days ago. Just gotta open up Charlotte
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Quote: @Skodin said:
The only reason I brought up the church thing was an attack at the dumb stimulus package, the overwhelmed SBA and an example of obvious bad ideas that we all can agree on, being that egregious.   

The only people who should have got a bailout were Americans and American small business period.  Fuck the Cheescake Factory, give that money to people who need it.

All this ridicule of middle Americans not having a savings, while shitty corps are begging at the trough after a bad couple of weeks is a disgrace.

Americans need that money, small business owners need that money, the banks and large corps can wait.  That was all about empowering corps to pick up the bones when this is done and reassert a stronger position.
I totally agree and the tacked on bull shit non profits like the arts centers and other bull shit that added about half a trillion to the total is just sickening.  And before anybody has even seen a cent of the first 2 trillion they are already drooling about the possibility of giving more money away,  of course there will be a pittance for the small guy to sell it to those that only read the headline and first paragraph. ,( or dont even bother looking past the mailbox money),  but it will certainly carry it's own special interest tag alongs as well.  
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@Skodin said:
The only reason I brought up the church thing was an attack at the dumb stimulus package, the overwhelmed SBA and an example of obvious bad ideas that we all can agree on, being that egregious.   

The only people who should have got a bailout were Americans and American small business period.  Fuck the Cheescake Factory, give that money to people who need it.

All this ridicule of middle Americans not having a savings, while shitty corps are begging at the trough after a bad couple of weeks is a disgrace.

Americans need that money, small business owners need that money, the banks and large corps can wait.  That was all about empowering corps to pick up the bones when this is done and reassert a stronger position.
I totally agree and the tacked on bull shit non profits like the arts centers and other bull shit that added about half a trillion to the total is just sickening.  And before anybody has even seen a cent of the first 2 trillion they are already drooling about the possibility of giving more money away,  of course there will be a pittance for the small guy to sell it to those that only read the headline and first paragraph. ,( or dont even bother looking past the mailbox money),  but it will certainly carry it's own special interest tag alongs as well.  
jimmy, you know me and this ain't personal.

But I really don't agree with bull-shit non-profits like the arts centers...For many, many Americans these are part of the fabric of our lives...And they need to eat too (shrug).

These are hard-working individuals suffering economic hardships just like the restaurant workers, folks who rely on retail sales for a living etc. 


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Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Skodin said:
The only reason I brought up the church thing was an attack at the dumb stimulus package, the overwhelmed SBA and an example of obvious bad ideas that we all can agree on, being that egregious.   

The only people who should have got a bailout were Americans and American small business period.  Fuck the Cheescake Factory, give that money to people who need it.

All this ridicule of middle Americans not having a savings, while shitty corps are begging at the trough after a bad couple of weeks is a disgrace.

Americans need that money, small business owners need that money, the banks and large corps can wait.  That was all about empowering corps to pick up the bones when this is done and reassert a stronger position.
I totally agree and the tacked on bull shit non profits like the arts centers and other bull shit that added about half a trillion to the total is just sickening.  And before anybody has even seen a cent of the first 2 trillion they are already drooling about the possibility of giving more money away,  of course there will be a pittance for the small guy to sell it to those that only read the headline and first paragraph. ,( or dont even bother looking past the mailbox money),  but it will certainly carry it's own special interest tag alongs as well.  
jimmy, you know me and this ain't personal.

But I really don't agree with bull-shit non-profits like the arts centers...For many, many Americans these are part of the fabric of our lives...And they need to eat too (shrug).

These are hard-working individuals suffering economic hardships just like the restaurant workers, folks who rely on retail sales for a living etc. 


They let the workers go.  I would agree with you if the kept the artists employed and not the administrators. 
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1247967241271783424

Watch the graphic above that shows how the virus spread across the world including the US. Note how fast or rapid it spread in the US. Then ask yourself why other countries were able to take measures to halt the spread better than the US that even had some "advance warning" so to speak.  We can blame China or the WHO or better still "previous" administrations but the failure of the US to prepare for this or even address it is just mind boggling. The numbers are not only staggering but also display an epic failure of our leaders. On another note, we still have public figures that are fighting hard against stay at home directives.
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Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
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Nope, wifey and I, were both symptomatic, mid March after a trip to DC a couple weeks earlier.  They were only testing those they were going to put on ventilators, is what we were told.  State, Iowa, had less than 600 test available and less capacity to process them.
My girlfriend is symptomatic and the only way she can get tested is to be hospitalized.

She works for a cancer center that's part of the biggest hospital in North Carolina.
That’s FUBAR man. They won’t test her even though she works in the medical field? All a person can do is shake their head anymore. There’s no reasoning behind this. Medical workers, cops, and fireman should get tests anytime they feel they need them. They’re exposed to vulnerable patients all the time. Messed up. I hope she doesn’t have it and gets feeling better.
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She's been fever free for 72 hours now. So,  I'm cautiously optimistic. The one patient that they thought had the virus tested negative. But, per the hospital, there's a 30% false negative with the test.
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Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Skodin said:
The only reason I brought up the church thing was an attack at the dumb stimulus package, the overwhelmed SBA and an example of obvious bad ideas that we all can agree on, being that egregious.   

The only people who should have got a bailout were Americans and American small business period.  Fuck the Cheescake Factory, give that money to people who need it.

All this ridicule of middle Americans not having a savings, while shitty corps are begging at the trough after a bad couple of weeks is a disgrace.

Americans need that money, small business owners need that money, the banks and large corps can wait.  That was all about empowering corps to pick up the bones when this is done and reassert a stronger position.
I totally agree and the tacked on bull shit non profits like the arts centers and other bull shit that added about half a trillion to the total is just sickening.  And before anybody has even seen a cent of the first 2 trillion they are already drooling about the possibility of giving more money away,  of course there will be a pittance for the small guy to sell it to those that only read the headline and first paragraph. ,( or dont even bother looking past the mailbox money),  but it will certainly carry it's own special interest tag alongs as well.  
jimmy, you know me and this ain't personal.

But I really don't agree with bull-shit non-profits like the arts centers...For many, many Americans these are part of the fabric of our lives...And they need to eat too (shrug).

These are hard-working individuals suffering economic hardships just like the restaurant workers, folks who rely on retail sales for a living etc. 


It's the amounts that went to those places and the fact that they were singled out for those amounts,  if there were drinking from the same cup as Joe's print shop in downtown shakopee  I wouldn't likely care,  but they are given their own funds which I am sure are disproportionately larger.  They should have been treated like every other business based on size IMO, and this isnt just about the arts,  I am sure there are things dear to me that got special attention as well, but that's not what this bill should have been about.  It should have been about keeping main street alive during the crisis and ensuring the low and middle class stayed fed and sheltered.

This crisis will end up feeding every pet pork project in DC before they let it go.
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