Quote: @Vikergirl said:
@ Skodin said:
@ Vikergirl said:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/african-ameri...00749.html
Here comes a hot take, I know, but I will say with my own ancedotal evidence driving around or viewing social media, African Americans are hanging out with each other. Just look at Hilton Hill’s instagram stories, he and 5 other athletes working out with each other. Side by side.
I drove by a funeral two days ago, 30 people just hanging out next to each other. Drive down town, groups sticking together, no masks, no distance.
On the flip side my GF’s lesbian Vermont aunts, they are socially distancing within their own house.
Some people get it and some people don’t, but that won’t be addressed in this upcoming conversation how black/poor/urban people are decimated by this virus. Just waiting for the . . This virus is racist . . . Or this virus is a tool of class warfare . . .
No this virus is a war on stupidity and preparation
There is plenty of stupid in all colors. There is also research that shows bias in regard to health care for minorities.
It seems to me the title is wrong.
Do more blacks that get the disease die from it? That would indicate the bias in health care that you indicate (and I assume is true).
Or do more blacks die because more blacks get the disease. That could indicate poor social distancing practices OR poor outreach to the black communities.
Certainly it should be studied and fixed.
Most churches are being responsible.
Also, the Easter bunny hiding eggs isn’t in the bible. As far as I know, he didn’t hide them back when Jesus was walking the earth.
Quote: @Vikergirl said:
@ Skodin said:
@ Vikergirl said:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/african-ameri...00749.html
Here comes a hot take, I know, but I will say with my own ancedotal evidence driving around or viewing social media, African Americans are hanging out with each other. Just look at Hilton Hill’s instagram stories, he and 5 other athletes working out with each other. Side by side.
I drove by a funeral two days ago, 30 people just hanging out next to each other. Drive down town, groups sticking together, no masks, no distance.
On the flip side my GF’s lesbian Vermont aunts, they are socially distancing within their own house.
Some people get it and some people don’t, but that won’t be addressed in this upcoming conversation how black/poor/urban people are decimated by this virus. Just waiting for the . . This virus is racist . . . Or this virus is a tool of class warfare . . .
No this virus is a war on stupidity and preparation
There is plenty of stupid in all colors. There is also research that shows bias in regard to health care for minorities.
I completely agree with you, especially when it comes to health care for minorities. But the winds of identity politics will come out to play with pieces like this, usually lacking a conversation regarding personal responsibility.
Acting secretary of the Navy resigns after calling ousted aircraft carrier captain 'stupid' The Navy and Department of Defense did not respond to a request for comment. Undersecretary of the Army James McPherson has been tapped to succeed Modly, a US official and a defense official tells CNN. McPherson is a retired rear admiral and was the former judge advocate general of the Navy.
On Monday, Modly told the crew of the Roosevelt that their former commander, Capt. Brett Crozier, was either "too naive or too stupid" to be in command or that he intentionally leaked a memo to the media, in which Crozier warned about coronavirus spreading aboard the aircraft carrier and urged action to save his sailors, according to remarks obtained by CNN.
Late Monday night, Modly apologized in a statement for calling Crozier "stupid" in his earlier remarks.
New York City stockpiled ventilators for a pandemic, only to later auction them off: reportIn 2006, then- New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's administration began purchasing ventilators to allow the city to be prepared for a pandemic like the current coronavirus crisis -- only for the city to later auction them off, according to a report.
ProPublica reported Monday that the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene issued a report in 2006 on the city's preparedness for pandemic influenza -- similar to the 1918 Spanish Flu or the 2019 novel coronavirus -- that projected the city would need thousands of extra ventilators in order to properly treat all of its residents who got sick. The plan was then put into action, with the city initially buying 500 ventilators before it ran out of money to buy more and to maintain the ones it had already stockpiled, according to ProPublica.
Those ventilators were then auctioned off some time before 2016 because the city could not afford to maintain them in working order, partially because the model of ventilator the city had purchased was no longer in production after 2009, the report said.
Quote: @A1Janitor said:
New York City stockpiled ventilators for a pandemic, only to later auction them off: reportIn 2006, then- New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's administration began purchasing ventilators to allow the city to be prepared for a pandemic like the current coronavirus crisis -- only for the city to later auction them off, according to a report.
ProPublica reported Monday that the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene issued a report in 2006 on the city's preparedness for pandemic influenza -- similar to the 1918 Spanish Flu or the 2019 novel coronavirus -- that projected the city would need thousands of extra ventilators in order to properly treat all of its residents who got sick. The plan was then put into action, with the city initially buying 500 ventilators before it ran out of money to buy more and to maintain the ones it had already stockpiled, according to ProPublica.
Those ventilators were then auctioned off some time before 2016 because the city could not afford to maintain them in working order, partially because the model of ventilator the city had purchased was no longer in production after 2009, the report said.
When I said our country didn't have it's shit together, stuff like this is what I meant. I'm sure if ProPublica dug deeper they would find rampant stories like this nationwide. Not just for ventilators but pretty much any number of things our hospitals have a shortage of like gowns, scrubs, face shields, surgical masks, N95 masks etc.
Quote: @bigbone62 said:
@ A1Janitor said:
New York City stockpiled ventilators for a pandemic, only to later auction them off: report In 2006, then- New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's administration began purchasing ventilators to allow the city to be prepared for a pandemic like the current coronavirus crisis -- only for the city to later auction them off, according to a report.
ProPublica reported Monday that the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene issued a report in 2006 on the city's preparedness for pandemic influenza -- similar to the 1918 Spanish Flu or the 2019 novel coronavirus -- that projected the city would need thousands of extra ventilators in order to properly treat all of its residents who got sick. The plan was then put into action, with the city initially buying 500 ventilators before it ran out of money to buy more and to maintain the ones it had already stockpiled, according to ProPublica.
Those ventilators were then auctioned off some time before 2016 because the city could not afford to maintain them in working order, partially because the model of ventilator the city had purchased was no longer in production after 2009, the report said.
When I said our country didn't have it's shit together, stuff like this is what I meant. I'm sure if ProPublica dug deeper they would find rampant stories like this nationwide. Not just for ventilators but pretty much any number of things our hospitals have a shortage of like gowns, scrubs, face shields, surgical masks, N95 masks etc. I'm sure there were a whole lot of "long-ball" decisions made the last 10+ years that have contributed to the shortfalls of today.
An easy example is the out-sourcing of key medical capacity to China, or the national stock-piles depleted in 09 and never replenished.
I'm sure the list is a mile long.
The question that will impact who our next president will be is more short-term. It's the perception the American public will have on leadership, decision making, actions & words, perceived intentions.
Was the country prepared? Was the right urgency displayed? Was there clear messaging and vision expressed along the way? Were the right decisions made at the right time by the right people? Were lives saved vs lost by the decisions made or not made?
Its the short-term, immediacy of this (now through fall) that will either get this Potus re-elected or swept out of office.
Quote: @bigbone62 said:
@ A1Janitor said:
New York City stockpiled ventilators for a pandemic, only to later auction them off: report In 2006, then- New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's administration began purchasing ventilators to allow the city to be prepared for a pandemic like the current coronavirus crisis -- only for the city to later auction them off, according to a report.
ProPublica reported Monday that the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene issued a report in 2006 on the city's preparedness for pandemic influenza -- similar to the 1918 Spanish Flu or the 2019 novel coronavirus -- that projected the city would need thousands of extra ventilators in order to properly treat all of its residents who got sick. The plan was then put into action, with the city initially buying 500 ventilators before it ran out of money to buy more and to maintain the ones it had already stockpiled, according to ProPublica.
Those ventilators were then auctioned off some time before 2016 because the city could not afford to maintain them in working order, partially because the model of ventilator the city had purchased was no longer in production after 2009, the report said.
When I said our country didn't have it's shit together, stuff like this is what I meant. I'm sure if ProPublica dug deeper they would find rampant stories like this nationwide. Not just for ventilators but pretty much any number of things our hospitals have a shortage of like gowns, scrubs, face shields, surgical masks, N95 masks etc.
Then I was wrong if this is what you meant and I apologize.
Too many times it appears on this site people blaming Trump.
The bed reference is NYS. At its peak - we have empty beds and ventilators. We have not run out yet. And I suspect we won’t. As NYS heals - we have available supplies to the next state.
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-paid-...ile-2020-3
- Millions of taxpayer dollars were spent on developing portable, easy-to-use ventilators to prepare for a national health crisis like the coronavirus pandemic — but not a single one is in the federal stockpile.
- The US Department of Health and Human Services signed a $13.8 million contract with health technology giant Royal Philips N.V. to produce portable, easy-to-use ventilators to add to the federal stockpile.
- Although HHS ordered 10,000 units of the ventilator in September 2019, the company began selling two higher-priced commercial versions of the same ventilator around the world.
- The bombshell investigation from ProPublica comes as the nation faces a severe shortage of ventilators and other medical supplies that are critical to treating COVID-19 patients.
A Pennsylvania company that received $13.8 million in tax dollars to produce cheap, portable ventilators is now selling them overseas as the U.S. scrambles to find enough of the devices to sustain hospital patients affected by the coronavirus, according to an investigation by ProPublica.
In 2015 the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) contracted the company to produce the ventilators, which were approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in September 2019. Not a single version of the model, Trilogy Evo Universal, in the U.S. stockpile.
HHS ordered 10,000 of the ventilators for the Strategic National Stockpile at a cost of $3,280 each. Instead, the company, which is a subsidiary of Dutch appliance and technology giant Royal Philips N.V., began selling more expensive versions of the ventilators across the world.
HHS told ProPublica that the company agreed to produce them “as soon as possible,” but a Philips spokesman said the company has no plan to even begin production anytime this year.
Instead, the company is reportedly negotiating with a White House team led by Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, to build 43,000 more ventilators for Americans infected with COVID-19.
The lack of ventilators in the U.S. hospital system has emerged as one of the biggest obstacles the administration faces as the pandemic makes its way across the country.
On Monday, Ford announced that it will be able to start producing ventilators by the end of April as governors make clear they desperately need the life-saving machines amid the coronavirus pandemic. The automobile giant said it would be able to produce 1,500 ventilators by the end of next month, 12,000 by the end of May and 50,000 by July 4.
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