Quote: @Poiple said:
You guys think because i stick up for Keenum that he is the one that I prefer. Sure I am a Keenum fan. Im more than a little surprised more of you all arent. He played his guts out and had more success than anyone else since Favre. I enjoyed this season a ton. Im nearly 60 and it was in my top 5 sasons. (My favorite was Moss’s first, wrecking Greenbay.)
I like Teddy the best but those knees freak me out. HUGE FAN.
Sam coming in last year and doing what he did... I thought we were set for the next five years.
But I really dont get how everyone isnt a huge Keenum fan. 22-7, took us to the NFCC. What a great story.
There are ways to say that you prefer another QB for next year without demeaning Keenum’s job he did last year. For those that cant... screw them all. I wouldnt want to have a beer with any of ya.
Cousins might be better, and if so I hope the team lands him and can afford to bring back Diggs and co. Diggs is going to be a huge contract.
The better question is: why isn't the Viking's organization Keenum fans? The fans aren't making the calls on who will be the QB, they aren't the ones supposedly pursuing Cousins.
I think they are fans. Zimmer seemed slow to come around but he has nothing but praise for the job he did, how hard he prepares and what a good leader and team mate he is.
Only guys here complain that he is a tier 3 QB, a one shot wonder, lost the NFCC game single handly and should have had more picks. I dont give much creedence to their opinions.
But if there is. faster horse in the race Zimmer is going to ride it.
Pretty sure Rick has the final say on that.
Quote: @Poiple said:
I think they are fans. Zimmer seemed slow to come around but he has nothing but praise for the job he did, how hard he prepares and what a good leader and team mate he is.
Only guys here complain that he is a tier 3 QB, a one shot wonder, lost the NFCC game single handly and should have had more picks. I dont give much creedence to their opinions.
But if there is. faster horse in the race Zimmer is going to ride it.
Pretty sure Rick has the final say on that.
Of course they had praise for Keenum....but no commitment. Its says everything. I think Keenum is an excellent guy, very good leader. That's undisputed. But to commit to the guy is another thing altogether. Its a business and yeah, to your point, it doesn't seem necessarily fair to move on to another option after the team went 13-3 and got to the NFCC game. But the endgame is to take this talented team one step above that and they might feel that can't happen with Keenum. So you pursue Cousins.
Fans are going to be fickle. Fans are going to see greener pastures. Its part of the deal. But if the team bypasses Keenum to get an expensive options like Cousins, its being done for a reason.
Free agency pre-period does crack me up: Cousins isn't taking FA trips......yes, he is taking trips.....now, he's undecided about taking trips. LOL. Let the games begin!
what do you mean it doesnt say anything? So you also discount all he has done because the Vikes either see someone better or are working contract games?
You all pick and choose whatever reinforces your belief and ignore the rest. what about Zimmer saying he would like to keep all three? just ignore it....
A job well done deserves to be recognized even if the Vikes decide to go another way.
I just hope they dont lose out on their first two or three choices and end up with door number 4 or 5.
Regardless of who our QB pick is, we still need to do work on the O-line. Unfortunately injuries happened and guys played out of position in the NFCC. We also need DL help. I know we can draft these players but it'd sure be nice to have the ability to participate in free agency because there's some good players to be had out there....and I'm talking beyond acquiring Cousins.
I am still wondering if we end up with a Sam and Teddy combo. I'd like that the very best. Don't know if they'd agree to it, though...
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ Poiple said:
You guys think because i stick up for Keenum that he is the one that I prefer. Sure I am a Keenum fan. Im more than a little surprised more of you all arent. He played his guts out and had more success than anyone else since Favre. I enjoyed this season a ton. Im nearly 60 and it was in my top 5 sasons. (My favorite was Moss’s first, wrecking Greenbay.)
I like Teddy the best but those knees freak me out. HUGE FAN.
Sam coming in last year and doing what he did... I thought we were set for the next five years.
But I really dont get how everyone isnt a huge Keenum fan. 22-7, took us to the NFCC. What a great story.
There are ways to say that you prefer another QB for next year without demeaning Keenum’s job he did last year. For those that cant... screw them all. I wouldnt want to have a beer with any of ya.
Cousins might be better, and if so I hope the team lands him and can afford to bring back Diggs and co. Diggs is going to be a huge contract.
The better question is: why isn't the Viking's organization Keenum fans? The fans aren't making the calls on who will be the QB, they aren't the ones supposedly pursuing Cousins.
Sticky, why do you think the Vikes don't like Keenum? Do you think they dislike Sam and Teddy too?
Those three QBs are probably the most often discussed QB options for the Vikes. There's a good chance the Vikes won't land Cousins. If they don't, don't you think they start looking at Case, Teddy, and Sam? If so, why would they do that if they didn't like them?
Quote: @HappyViking said:
@ StickyBun said:
The better question is: why isn't the Viking's organization Keenum fans? The fans aren't making the calls on who will be the QB, they aren't the ones supposedly pursuing Cousins.
Sticky, why do you think the Vikes don't like Keenum? Do you think they dislike Sam and Teddy too?
Those three QBs are probably the most often discussed QB options for the Vikes. There's a good chance the Vikes won't land Cousins. If they don't, don't you think they start looking at Case, Teddy, and Sam? If so, why would they do that if they didn't like them?
I guess I haven't read all of Sticky's posts on the subject... but I think you're taking his comments out of context. It's not that the Vikings don't like Keenum, Bradford, or Teddy... it's that they like Cousins a bit more. They clearly have a "Plan A" and that isn't one of our 3 in-house options. If Bradford, Keenum, or Teddy were Plan A, we would have re-signed one of them before the start of FA (or applied the tag to let us negotiate a long-term contract). Connecting the dots says one of those guys is our Plan B and ol' Kirky Poo is Plan A.
Quote: @Poiple said:
Cousins might be better, and if so I hope the team lands him and can afford to bring back Diggs and co. Diggs is going to be a huge contract.
Diggs' contract discussion is going to be very interesting, because I think he may believe as you do - that he deserves a huge contract. He might even think he should be in the WR stratosphere like Mike Evans, or at least worth 2/3 of Evans' deal, and asking for something around $9-$11M/year.
But I wouldn't give him much more than the deal we signed Thielen to last year. Based on what he has done, Diggs shouldn't get more than about $6M/year; would you pay him more? Not sure he will accept that, so I don't think he will get re-signed early.
Quote: @Wetlander said:
@ HappyViking said:
@ StickyBun said:
The better question is: why isn't the Viking's organization Keenum fans? The fans aren't making the calls on who will be the QB, they aren't the ones supposedly pursuing Cousins.
Sticky, why do you think the Vikes don't like Keenum? Do you think they dislike Sam and Teddy too?
Those three QBs are probably the most often discussed QB options for the Vikes. There's a good chance the Vikes won't land Cousins. If they don't, don't you think they start looking at Case, Teddy, and Sam? If so, why would they do that if they didn't like them?
I guess I haven't read all of Sticky's posts on the subject... but I think you're taking his comments out of context. It's not that the Vikings don't like Keenum, Bradford, or Teddy... it's that they like Cousins a bit more. They clearly have a "Plan A" and that isn't one of our 3 in-house options. If Bradford, Keenum, or Teddy were Plan A, we would have re-signed one of them before the start of FA (or applied the tag to let us negotiate a long-term contract). Connecting the dots says one of those guys is our Plan B and ol' Kirky Poo is Plan A.
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Quote: @Jor-El said:
@ Poiple said:
Cousins might be better, and if so I hope the team lands him and can afford to bring back Diggs and co. Diggs is going to be a huge contract.
Diggs' contract discussion is going to be very interesting, because I think he may believe as you do - that he deserves a huge contract. He might even think he should be in the WR stratosphere like Mike Evans, or at least worth 2/3 of Evans' deal, and asking for something around $9-$11M/year.
But I wouldn't give him much more than the deal we signed Thielen to last year. Based on what he has done, Diggs shouldn't get more than about $6M/year; would you pay him more? Not sure he will accept that, so I don't think he will get re-signed early.
Dont assume I think he is the next coming of Randy Moss. Im just reading the wind. I think he will be overpaid whether its with ghe Vikes or in Greenbay...Gasp.
He is a household name and the entire Minneapolis Miracle blah blah....
He should have a good year with Cousins.
Im thinking 10-12 mill a year market value. I hope they are drafting his replacement.
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