Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
@ minny65 said:
I bought a treadmill from Sears about 20 years ago (under $600) and it is still going strong with no problems. It has about 4 years of heavy use of 5 days a week for about an hour which I guess isn't that heavy. Other than that 4 year period it gets very sporadic use between my wife and I. I am only 5'10 and weighed 205 pounds and then ran for those 4 years (about 8 years ago) and got down to 170 pounds and have now leveled off with no running at around 185.
I wouldn't go crazy on $$$ but if you are working at a gym then I think you would know better than me, I might have just been lucky.
The "lemon rate" of any commercial product is not 100%. All products will have great, average, and poor performers. Lemon devices have a higher rate of poor performers or complete fails. You purchased a very good TM, what was it's evaluation by consumers? Seeing a statistical summary with 100's evaluation is a better evaluation tool, though not perfect.
Yea, I don't remember specifics, but I always read customer reviews and probably even used consumer reports at that time.
customer reviews are great, I talk myself out of so much shit by reading the reviews, even if they are largely positive, I read the negative ones and suddenly I decide I dont want to risk the grief.
Keep in mind that the estimate on reviews online is that 60% of them are false, no matter positive or negative. Just do your best due diligence and move forward.
Yea and with scrutiny you can tell which ones are crap/false. For example, I never read a review from a reviewer who has only a handful of reviews (if they have the #'s). I also don't consider the short and sweet positive or negative posts. Of course, never consider the sponsored reviews.
I am a foodie, and I am a huge reviewer on TripAdvisor for travel and food. I am a reviewer snob now. I will not read a review from someone that does not have at least 50 restaurant reviews with a range of positive and negative 
Yep, review snob!
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
@ minny65 said:
I bought a treadmill from Sears about 20 years ago (under $600) and it is still going strong with no problems. It has about 4 years of heavy use of 5 days a week for about an hour which I guess isn't that heavy. Other than that 4 year period it gets very sporadic use between my wife and I. I am only 5'10 and weighed 205 pounds and then ran for those 4 years (about 8 years ago) and got down to 170 pounds and have now leveled off with no running at around 185.
I wouldn't go crazy on $$$ but if you are working at a gym then I think you would know better than me, I might have just been lucky.
The "lemon rate" of any commercial product is not 100%. All products will have great, average, and poor performers. Lemon devices have a higher rate of poor performers or complete fails. You purchased a very good TM, what was it's evaluation by consumers? Seeing a statistical summary with 100's evaluation is a better evaluation tool, though not perfect.
Yea, I don't remember specifics, but I always read customer reviews and probably even used consumer reports at that time.
customer reviews are great, I talk myself out of so much shit by reading the reviews, even if they are largely positive, I read the negative ones and suddenly I decide I dont want to risk the grief.
Keep in mind that the estimate on reviews online is that 60% of them are false, no matter positive or negative. Just do your best due diligence and move forward.
I don't agree with that high rate of false reviews. Sure some are but not 60%. I've nearly always been happy when I purchase something with a 90% approval (sum of 4's and 5's). Far more likely to be disappointed if the approval percentage is less than 75%. I write honest reviews for products that I purchase.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
@ minny65 said:
I bought a treadmill from Sears about 20 years ago (under $600) and it is still going strong with no problems. It has about 4 years of heavy use of 5 days a week for about an hour which I guess isn't that heavy. Other than that 4 year period it gets very sporadic use between my wife and I. I am only 5'10 and weighed 205 pounds and then ran for those 4 years (about 8 years ago) and got down to 170 pounds and have now leveled off with no running at around 185.
I wouldn't go crazy on $$$ but if you are working at a gym then I think you would know better than me, I might have just been lucky.
The "lemon rate" of any commercial product is not 100%. All products will have great, average, and poor performers. Lemon devices have a higher rate of poor performers or complete fails. You purchased a very good TM, what was it's evaluation by consumers? Seeing a statistical summary with 100's evaluation is a better evaluation tool, though not perfect.
Yea, I don't remember specifics, but I always read customer reviews and probably even used consumer reports at that time.
customer reviews are great, I talk myself out of so much shit by reading the reviews, even if they are largely positive, I read the negative ones and suddenly I decide I dont want to risk the grief.
Jimmy,
Wife said she'd probably tell you to stay in the Nordictrack line. Nothing overly fancy. At a minimum they're likely to be around for the foreseeable future. Decent support on the front end, though it seems its either being conducted by ifit or that is just another division within Nordictrack.
As was said above, its wear on the belt that will define the longevity of the machine. I know you said you didn't want to do the used route. I ended up finding her's still in a box but at used price on a close out. Depending how much time and effort you want to stick into it, to save a few bucks? Thats up to you?
thanks, I think it was nordictrack that were dicks about me having to show proof of purchase prior to helping me with the one at the fitness center, but IIRC their parent company makes like the top 3 home fitness equipment lines. ( yep just checked, ICON is the parent company.) That IFit thing pisses me off, I just want a machine I can afford that doesnt need a damn subscription to do the shit they advertise the machine to do. I was told about a company called Sunny Health, I like one machine they have, but the deck is only 55" long, I was told by somebody that for my height to look for a 60" deck.... but it looks like Sunny's app is free so its got that going for it.
Quote: @minny65 said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
@ minny65 said:
I bought a treadmill from Sears about 20 years ago (under $600) and it is still going strong with no problems. It has about 4 years of heavy use of 5 days a week for about an hour which I guess isn't that heavy. Other than that 4 year period it gets very sporadic use between my wife and I. I am only 5'10 and weighed 205 pounds and then ran for those 4 years (about 8 years ago) and got down to 170 pounds and have now leveled off with no running at around 185.
I wouldn't go crazy on $$$ but if you are working at a gym then I think you would know better than me, I might have just been lucky.
The "lemon rate" of any commercial product is not 100%. All products will have great, average, and poor performers. Lemon devices have a higher rate of poor performers or complete fails. You purchased a very good TM, what was it's evaluation by consumers? Seeing a statistical summary with 100's evaluation is a better evaluation tool, though not perfect.
Yea, I don't remember specifics, but I always read customer reviews and probably even used consumer reports at that time.
customer reviews are great, I talk myself out of so much shit by reading the reviews, even if they are largely positive, I read the negative ones and suddenly I decide I dont want to risk the grief.
Keep in mind that the estimate on reviews online is that 60% of them are false, no matter positive or negative. Just do your best due diligence and move forward.
Yea and with scrutiny you can tell which ones are crap/false. For example, I never read a review from a reviewer who has only a handful of reviews (if they have the #'s). I also don't consider the short and sweet positive or negative posts. Of course, never consider the sponsored reviews.
I am a foodie, and I am a huge reviewer on TripAdvisor for travel and food. I am a reviewer snob now. I will not read a review from someone that does not have at least 50 restaurant reviews with a range of positive and negative
Yep, review snob!
My wife and I are foodies as well and she lives for the reviews. I try to keep her in line with what she's reading. We went for Omakase the other night and for those that don't know, its an immersive and expensive 'leave it to the chef' raw fish experience. Very fun and cool. But you want it to be good because it is a costly night out. So she's doing a deep dive into the reviews and I mean deep.....and I'm like, 'Hon.....we just have to pull the trigger and see for ourselves. B)
It was fantastic. We've done it before, but this place was new and very close to our house.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
@ minny65 said:
I bought a treadmill from Sears about 20 years ago (under $600) and it is still going strong with no problems. It has about 4 years of heavy use of 5 days a week for about an hour which I guess isn't that heavy. Other than that 4 year period it gets very sporadic use between my wife and I. I am only 5'10 and weighed 205 pounds and then ran for those 4 years (about 8 years ago) and got down to 170 pounds and have now leveled off with no running at around 185.
I wouldn't go crazy on $$$ but if you are working at a gym then I think you would know better than me, I might have just been lucky.
The "lemon rate" of any commercial product is not 100%. All products will have great, average, and poor performers. Lemon devices have a higher rate of poor performers or complete fails. You purchased a very good TM, what was it's evaluation by consumers? Seeing a statistical summary with 100's evaluation is a better evaluation tool, though not perfect.
Yea, I don't remember specifics, but I always read customer reviews and probably even used consumer reports at that time.
customer reviews are great, I talk myself out of so much shit by reading the reviews, even if they are largely positive, I read the negative ones and suddenly I decide I dont want to risk the grief.
Jimmy,
Wife said she'd probably tell you to stay in the Nordictrack line. Nothing overly fancy. At a minimum they're likely to be around for the foreseeable future. Decent support on the front end, though it seems its either being conducted by ifit or that is just another division within Nordictrack.
As was said above, its wear on the belt that will define the longevity of the machine. I know you said you didn't want to do the used route. I ended up finding her's still in a box but at used price on a close out. Depending how much time and effort you want to stick into it, to save a few bucks? Thats up to you?
thanks, I think it was nordictrack that were dicks about me having to show proof of purchase prior to helping me with the one at the fitness center, but IIRC their parent company makes like the top 3 home fitness equipment lines. ( yep just checked, ICON is the parent company.) That IFit thing pisses me off, I just want a machine I can afford that doesnt need a damn subscription to do the shit they advertise the machine to do. I was told about a company called Sunny Health, I like one machine they have, but the deck is only 55" long, I was told by somebody that for my height to look for a 60" deck.... but it looks like Sunny's app is free so its got that going for it.
Ifit isn't required. Ours doesn't have the subscription.
Apps are free until they aren't lol
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ minny65 said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
@ minny65 said:
I bought a treadmill from Sears about 20 years ago (under $600) and it is still going strong with no problems. It has about 4 years of heavy use of 5 days a week for about an hour which I guess isn't that heavy. Other than that 4 year period it gets very sporadic use between my wife and I. I am only 5'10 and weighed 205 pounds and then ran for those 4 years (about 8 years ago) and got down to 170 pounds and have now leveled off with no running at around 185.
I wouldn't go crazy on $$$ but if you are working at a gym then I think you would know better than me, I might have just been lucky.
The "lemon rate" of any commercial product is not 100%. All products will have great, average, and poor performers. Lemon devices have a higher rate of poor performers or complete fails. You purchased a very good TM, what was it's evaluation by consumers? Seeing a statistical summary with 100's evaluation is a better evaluation tool, though not perfect.
Yea, I don't remember specifics, but I always read customer reviews and probably even used consumer reports at that time.
customer reviews are great, I talk myself out of so much shit by reading the reviews, even if they are largely positive, I read the negative ones and suddenly I decide I dont want to risk the grief.
Keep in mind that the estimate on reviews online is that 60% of them are false, no matter positive or negative. Just do your best due diligence and move forward.
Yea and with scrutiny you can tell which ones are crap/false. For example, I never read a review from a reviewer who has only a handful of reviews (if they have the #'s). I also don't consider the short and sweet positive or negative posts. Of course, never consider the sponsored reviews.
I am a foodie, and I am a huge reviewer on TripAdvisor for travel and food. I am a reviewer snob now. I will not read a review from someone that does not have at least 50 restaurant reviews with a range of positive and negative
Yep, review snob!
My wife and I are foodies as well and she lives for the reviews. I try to keep her in line with what she's reading. We went for Omakase the other night and for those that don't know, its an immersive and expensive 'leave it to the chef' raw fish experience. Very fun and cool. But you want it to be good because it is a costly night out. So she's doing a deep dive into the reviews and I mean deep.....and I'm like, 'Hon.....we just have to pull the trigger and see for ourselves. B)
It was fantastic. We've done it before, but this place was new and very close to our house.
I like the deep dive, immersive and raw fish language. I can tell you are an excellent reviewer
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ minny65 said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
@ minny65 said:
I bought a treadmill from Sears about 20 years ago (under $600) and it is still going strong with no problems. It has about 4 years of heavy use of 5 days a week for about an hour which I guess isn't that heavy. Other than that 4 year period it gets very sporadic use between my wife and I. I am only 5'10 and weighed 205 pounds and then ran for those 4 years (about 8 years ago) and got down to 170 pounds and have now leveled off with no running at around 185.
I wouldn't go crazy on $$$ but if you are working at a gym then I think you would know better than me, I might have just been lucky.
The "lemon rate" of any commercial product is not 100%. All products will have great, average, and poor performers. Lemon devices have a higher rate of poor performers or complete fails. You purchased a very good TM, what was it's evaluation by consumers? Seeing a statistical summary with 100's evaluation is a better evaluation tool, though not perfect.
Yea, I don't remember specifics, but I always read customer reviews and probably even used consumer reports at that time.
customer reviews are great, I talk myself out of so much shit by reading the reviews, even if they are largely positive, I read the negative ones and suddenly I decide I dont want to risk the grief.
Jimmy,
Wife said she'd probably tell you to stay in the Nordictrack line. Nothing overly fancy. At a minimum they're likely to be around for the foreseeable future. Decent support on the front end, though it seems its either being conducted by ifit or that is just another division within Nordictrack.
As was said above, its wear on the belt that will define the longevity of the machine. I know you said you didn't want to do the used route. I ended up finding her's still in a box but at used price on a close out. Depending how much time and effort you want to stick into it, to save a few bucks? Thats up to you?
thanks, I think it was nordictrack that were dicks about me having to show proof of purchase prior to helping me with the one at the fitness center, but IIRC their parent company makes like the top 3 home fitness equipment lines. ( yep just checked, ICON is the parent company.) That IFit thing pisses me off, I just want a machine I can afford that doesnt need a damn subscription to do the shit they advertise the machine to do. I was told about a company called Sunny Health, I like one machine they have, but the deck is only 55" long, I was told by somebody that for my height to look for a 60" deck.... but it looks like Sunny's app is free so its got that going for it.
Ifit isn't required. Ours doesn't have the subscription.
Apps are free until they aren't lol
I think some of the reviews say that certain features require the app. I know that the two proform machines ( same company as nordictrack ) at the fitness center will work without the ifit app, but they are a pain because it keeps prompting you to hook to wifi and get the app, you can get around it, but it took some dicking around. I'm mostly thinking of getting to where I can maintain a heart rate about twice my resting rate and go for 30 to 45 minutes a day until I am at the point where its forcing me to run and that will kill my knees so I will have to switch to a bike or rower. Saw a cool rower with a bunch of games built in that interested me.
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