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#21
Quote: @"MaroonBells" said:
@"Wetlander" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
I'll say this: because I feel so strongly that Mac Jones will be a bust, he's got a pretty good chance of being a good QB.
I said you'd regret saying Justin Jefferson doesn't stand out when you watch him.  Mac Jones is that guy for me this year.  

He gets ripped for his body and playing with too much talent, but I think he's going to be a good NFL QB. He just does too many of the little things that translate to the NFL that a lot of college QBs take years to learn (or never learn).
Agree. You look at a guy like Fields and you see unbelievable physical talent. 6-3, 227, 4.5 forty, rocket arm and accurate too. But if given a choice between that guy who hasn't read progressions and the guy with the beer-truck-driver body who excels at processing, gimme the beer guy. 
I am not buying into the narrative that Fields cannot go through his progressions.  I see the potential upside with Wilson with his arm talent.  But I think Fields is no worse than the third QB in this draft.
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#22
Quote: @"dadevike" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
@"Wetlander" said:
@"StickyBun" said:
I'll say this: because I feel so strongly that Mac Jones will be a bust, he's got a pretty good chance of being a good QB.
I said you'd regret saying Justin Jefferson doesn't stand out when you watch him.  Mac Jones is that guy for me this year.  

He gets ripped for his body and playing with too much talent, but I think he's going to be a good NFL QB. He just does too many of the little things that translate to the NFL that a lot of college QBs take years to learn (or never learn).
Agree. You look at a guy like Fields and you see unbelievable physical talent. 6-3, 227, 4.5 forty, rocket arm and accurate too. But if given a choice between that guy who hasn't read progressions and the guy with the beer-truck-driver body who excels at processing, gimme the beer guy. 
I am not buying into the narrative that Fields cannot go through his progressions.  
Never said he couldn't. Only that he hasn't done it, and that experience doing it is a trait that typically translates well to the NFL. 

I'm not saying Fields will be a bust. Only that I would take Jones over him for that reason. And I might be completely wrong about that. For all I know, Fields could be the next Dak Prescott. It's a crapshoot. And we're all just guessing. But so are NFL teams. 

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#23
Quote: @"BarrNone55" said:
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Dude claps good, let's draft him!
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#24
https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/04/08/nfl-dr...ellen-mond

“With all the NFL I’ve watched, I felt like I could come up with my own routes to run,” Mond said. “I didn’t need a quarterback guru to tell my receivers where to be when I feel like that’s my job, to be the leader and to be in command of the entire pro day.”
On the types of pro days designed by quarterback coaches, he added: “You want to show you can be accurate with underneath throws and quick screens, but I think a lot of guys do it so they can show they have more completions. I wanted to show 14-yard option routes. Go routes. Pushing the ball down the field.”
Jimbo Fisher, his collegiate coach, didn’t flinch. Though he’d worked alongside Mond for years, helping develop the quarterback into one of three SEC players ever to throw for more than 9,000 yards and rush for more than 1,500 (Tim Tebow and Dak Prescott were the others), he had no clue Mond would show up that day and put on a spartan workout straight out of his own imagination.
“I didn’t know he was going to do it,” Fisher said by phone on Tuesday. “But it doesn’t surprise me. It doesn’t surprise me one bit.”
The result was more than a few raised eyebrows. One evaluator noted that Mond was initially discussed as a late third-round or early fourth-round prospect, but he could have pushed himself into the top 50 of this month’s draft. He won the Senior Bowl MVP award in late January, which helped ignite a conversation about his draft status that had felt a little stagnant beforehand.Before that moment, little seemed to help him pierce the hype machine surrounding the draft’s consensus top-five quarterback prospects: Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, Trey Lance and Mac Jones. But Mond didn’t mind. After logging his first career minutes as an NCAA quarterback during his freshman year spelling an injured starter, he received death threats for his performance (a historic comeback win by Josh Rosen and UCLA). He now owns all of the Aggies’ most significant offensive records (passing yards, touchdowns and total yards).

Letting a few more people know what they’re missing about him shouldn’t be that hard. Just ask him.
“I think, one, having 40-plus starts in your career. That’s ridiculous,” Mond said. “Certain guys have less than 20. Plus-40 is incredible. Being able to play four years in the SEC. In my first three years of college, I played against 20 first-round picks. I’m playing against some of the best D-linemen and players in the league. And I got better each year.”
Mond’s direct-to-consumer approach with his predraft process raises some interesting questions. Heading into draft season, one of the common knocks on him was a perceived lack of charisma, that nebulous leadership it-factor that scouts can sometimes irresponsibly interpret and miscast.
Bypassing a quarterback coach, one who might instruct a prospect not only on how to doctor his pro day, but how to appear in front of NFL people, flipped the question on its head. What’s leadership? Creating your own path or paying someone to do it for you? What’s real and true authenticity? Doing what you think is right or contorting yourself into a prefabricated box? What is an actual gunslinger mentality? Staging a calculated performance with more choreography than Hamilton or trusting you could let it rip?
Fisher said that has always been Mond’s preferred method of operation. He is relentless. He digests the why in everything and he leads with a quiet calm. He’s had quarterbacks in the past who preferred a different approach. Neither was an indicator of success.
“I’ve learned over time, when you start to force a personality, you ruin a guy,” Fisher said. “Sometimes a guy can do it quietly; sometimes a guy can do it loudly.”
That authenticity helped Mond improve statistically every year at College Station. In three of his four games against Alabama (the closest thing to a professional defense any quarterback entering the 2021 draft has seen), he posted a quarterback rating of 120 or better. He threw for 430 yards, three touchdowns and no interceptions, for a QB rating of 172.6 against Clemson and its demonic coordinator, Brent Venables. He beat LSU twice.
Now Mond stands as one of the most fascinating quarterback prospects in a class where passers are guaranteed to go with each of the first three picks and could likely extend the streak beyond that.
“I think where he sits in the draft right now, outside of the big five that everyone is talking about, teams feel that if they hit, they can hit on a starter,” said Jim Nagy, the director of the Senior Bowl. “To me, the floor is a backup. We know he can be a backup. But if you hit, you’re hitting on a starter, and that’s what has teams so intrigued.”
Mond has little doubt he’ll hit. But if you were a scout at his pro day and digested the message, you already knew that.
“I bet a lot of people, if you would have told them that Kellen would be one of the top quarterbacks coming out after my sophomore or junior year, they would have told me no,” he said. “I’ve been able to overcome. Not listening to people. Proving some people right and proving some people wrong.”
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#25
Football Morning in America's Peter King is beginning to believe that Florida QB Kyle Trask will be a first-round selection.To be clear, this is King's opinion, rather than a sourced report. Still, the longtime NFL writer is plenty plugged in and it's worth keeping Trask in mind down the Round 1 stretch. Not that we would condone a first-round pick of the Florida signal-caller. While the 6-foot-5, 240-pounder did a fantastic job for the Gators in 2020, he more/less projects as a likely backup in the pro ranks, if that. Trask has routinely been swept off the board on Day 2 or early on Day 3 in mock draft action. If a team does pull the trigger on Trask earlier than consensus expects, it would be a dubious use of draft capital in our book.
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