Schraeder Still In Play?

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Another article on Schraeder. I have no clue about the NFL rules when it comes to matters like this, but is it possible that someone who is "released with a post June 1st designation" can't sign with another team until after June 1? Sure would clear things up. He's too good to still be on the market. Schraeder had a terrible 2018, but he's an outside zone RT who was considered one of the best in the league not too long ago. 

 https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/08/chargers-ot-ryan-schraeder-among-best-free-agent-fits-remaining/

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@MaroonBells said:
Another article on Schraeder. I have no clue about the NFL rules when it comes to matters like this, but is it possible that someone who is "released with a post June 1st designation" can't sign with another team until after June 1? Sure would clear things up. He's too good to still be on the market. Schraeder had a terrible 2018, but he's an outside zone RT who was considered one of the best in the league not too long ago. 

 https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/08/chargers-ot-ryan-schraeder-among-best-free-agent-fits-remaining/

I think the reason for the designation is 2 fold,  it allows the team to break up the remaining prorated cap charges so his 2019 money would all that would count against this years cap for his former team and any additional prorated money would hit the 2020 cap,  but this loop hole then frees up that players cap money for his previous team to use it on other free agents now instead of after june 1st when FA is essentially over.   the second part of this is for the players benefit,  it puts the veterans back on the market before the draft to allow them a better opportunity to still cash in while teams have needs and cap space instead of forcing their previous team to hang onto them until June and then they have to sign for scraps with a new team.   I have never seen where a player has to wait until June 1st once they have been released,  the designation date is just a cap tool for the teams.

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The only way this guy is still in play for Minnesota is if they cut/restructure Rudolph....and even then, it'll be Uber-tight.

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@StickyBun said:
The only way this guy is still in play for Minnesota is if they cut/restructure Rudolph....and even then, it'll be Uber-tight.

I wonder if Reiff and Rudy will both be asked to restructure or be shown the door.  Reiff being harder to move on from because of the contract and his proven results at a critical position,  but his numbers would help if traded and if they think ONeill is ready to be a LT.

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@StickyBun said:
The only way this guy is still in play for Minnesota is if they cut/restructure Rudolph....and even then, it'll be Uber-tight.

Well, the cap limitations are obvious, but the only way we sign a guy like Schraeder is if we move on from Reiff. All of the potential trade candidates (Waynes, Rudy, Reiff) are less likely now post-draft, but it would only take one to facilitate a signing like this. 

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@MaroonBells said:
Another article on Schraeder. I have no clue about the NFL rules when it comes to matters like this, but is it possible that someone who is "released with a post June 1st designation" can't sign with another team until after June 1? Sure would clear things up. He's too good to still be on the market. Schraeder had a terrible 2018, but he's an outside zone RT who was considered one of the best in the league not too long ago. 

 https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/08/chargers-ot-ryan-schraeder-among-best-free-agent-fits-remaining/

The player can sign immediately. The post-June 1st designation is for cap purposes only. If you release the player prior to June-1 your can select the designation and you're just punting on the cap implications hitting in June vs. immediately. 

So using Reiff as an example here are the impact pre and post June-1. 

Cut prior to June 1 or without a Post June-1 designation: Vikings immediately gain $5.1M in net cap space (Salary - Dead Money) plus Reiff's roster spot. The full $6.6M of dead money is accelerated onto the 2019 cap. Net savings in 2020 are then Reiff's full cap hit of $13.2M. Reiff can sign whenever released. 

Cut Post June-1 or with Designation: Vikings gain $0 cap space until June-1st but open up Reiff's roster spot immediately. Post June-1 Reiffs salary comes off the books and they gain $9.5M in net cap space. This years pro-rated signing bonus $2.2M remains on this years cap. The remaining $4.4M in dead money is accounted for on the 2020 salary cap. Net cap savings in 2020 is then $8.8M. Once again Reiff can sign whenever he wants and does not need to wait until June. 

To show another way if the Vikings outright release Reiff prior to June 1 they save $5.1M in 2019 & $13.2M in 2020 cap space. Total cap savings = 18.3M over two years. 
If they alternatively use the Post June-1 designation they save $9.5M in 2019 and $8.8M in 2020 cap space. Total cap savings = 18.3M over two years. 
This proves is purely cap accounting based since you end up in the same spot after two season. 

Why the Post-June 1 designation makes some sense for Reiff is that it opens up the additional cap now for the Vikings for in-season moves. But next year they would reap the benefits of rolling over any unspent 2018 money onto their 2019 cap. Assuming keep around $5M of space this season that would off-set the dead money pushed into 2020. Its a slight loophole you could use. But their biggest cap asset in 2020 is Kirk Cousins.